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well and how are you today young man? :p
obviously from your last addition, you are more than fine:)
The one I went on at Sindagma was not as inspiring as Koridallos, but at least there was a decent enough gathering
 
Finally I can say quite good, breathing problems are over although I do take still some pills.

It was a risky decision to be at Koridallos gathering, because there was the risk to get sprayed with chemicals again, but the cops although they were there in big numbers they were not that able to respond.... I bet they have never seen anything like this in their life
 
I'm glad to hear you're better:)
I wish I was there at Koridallos, but I had to manage to be at 3 places that night, so Koridallos was out of the question.
Tomorrow is another one at 3pm, and although it's going to be even colder than today I think it's going to be a decent enough gathering, what do you think?

*occupied london has a great letter to Athens, since you know how to quote properly, do you mind posting it here? The link for it : http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/ it is titled : Burn baby, burn
 
*occupied london has a great letter to Athens, since you know how to quote properly, do you mind posting it here? The link for it : http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog/ it is titled : Burn baby, burn

Here it is :)

occupiedlondon.org said:
Burn baby, burn! A love letter to Athens.
Wednesday, December 31, 2008

I’ve been meaning to write you this letter for a while, from the moment I heard about Alex’s murder… but there had been no time for love letters so far. There was no time to think, no time to write. Since it all happened you had been on fire. How can you hand a letter to a flaming city? I just tried to come back to you as fast as I could.

I knew this time would be no ordinary one as soon as I arrived. The talking heads on the TV screens were howling as usual yet there was something even more vicious and desperate in their tone, it had become something closer to the whining of a wounded and frightened dog. I gave up watching them pretty quick. For all my delight there was little use in listening to the sobbing for the crumbling of their order, there was little other than sheer joy to extract from that gaze, the gaze of the dog whose master has disappeared leaving it with nothing to defend but a hollow, burnt land. I knew I had to hit your streets. To get to you, I had to be out there. That I knew. What I didn’t know was what to expect.

I stepped out of the front door.

Walking on your streets on the night of Alex’s funeral felt like an odd dream. Like one of those dreams of mine where I see nothing, where I can only sense that I am falling. It’s a free fall, dark all around and I feel this mixture of fear, exhilaration and perplexity. I can only think, “what next?”. Street after street, corner after corner. Cops all around yet it was not them who worried me. What I was dying to find out was the situation at the Polytechnic. Where any more of your children still out there? To be alone, on a night like this, would only bring back that horrible vertigo feeling. To express the rage I felt, I needed many on my side. We all did.

I was approaching the Polytechnic.

A banging sound getting louder. A slow roar coming from the distance. I could begin to sense what was happening. A couple of nights ago they had taken away one of your children. Tonight, like in the two previous nights, the rest of your wild, loyal children were at play. We wouldn’t let you alone, we wouldn’t let anyone alone anymore. I walked out on Patision Avenue to an unforgetable sight. I knew you were proud on that moment, I could feel it. Thousands and thousands of your children were there. This was no called-for demonstration, no official gathering, nothing to even come to resemble some negotiation with normality, with their murky order. This was a fool’s feast, a delirious mass, a popular lighting up of the streets. I saw migrants from all over, I saw punks from Eksarhia, I saw your faithful crazies I usually find rambling your streets. The passers-by always see through them, they walk next, past, over them. Not on that night. That night there were no passers-by, that night we were all on the streets for Alex, we were there for us, we were there for you. That night we turned Patision Avenue into your flaming heart.




(…)

The morning after never came. What came was a morning no more; the evenings that followed were evenings no longer. Nights and days all blended into one moment: our long, long moment of revolt. Do you remember that moment? What am I saying, how could you forget. At first, that odd feeling that people had abandoned you, that they had been scared, that the talking heads had finally won. Long assemblies in the universities, one demonstration after the other, two, three and four in the same day. We didn’t want to leave you for a moment, we didn’t want to leave your streets. If we went home, normality would win and so, living on your streets was our only protection against it. And from inside their homes more of your children would walk out. They would come out hesitantly yet confident that something was happening. They had all seen the gaze in the talking heads’ eyes, they knew something was wrong. But what? The only way to find out was on the streets. We were more. And more. Days turned into weeks. We were getting tired. Was that normality’s plan all along? To let the children exhaust themselves in play? Couldn’t it see (you could, I am sure) that this was no game any of us was playing, that it was changing us once and for all? Suddenly, as suddenly as it all started, it all began to reachi an end. The dreadful moment was coming, we feared: we were going home. I was on Patision Avenue watching one of the talking heads breathing a sigh of relief. For a moment, I believed it. I started walking up the road past the still occupied general confederation of workers’ building.

I stood still.

I tried to absorb the image in front of my eyes. The building was wrapped in banners and a huge red and black flag hanged proudly from its top. The speakers across the entire street were under the occupiers’ control. They were blasting out:

Landlords and power whores
On my people they took turns
Dispute the suits I ignite
And then watch ‘em burn
Burn, burn, yes ya gonna burn

They were playing our song, they were playing your song, the song of the thousands of Alexis’ that nestle on your streets. And on that moment, I knew it. I knew that we were not over, not by a long shot, that what we have lived so far was only a glimpse of the future. I salute you, I salute us and what is to come._

–deviant kid
 
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=959426

On the link above there are some videos from the gathering at Korydallos. The first ones are exactly on 00:00 with the new year, the final 2 are from the women prison establishment. You can also hear the women chanting from inside the prison and some fires from the windows.

The videos are filmed in this way so no faces to be shown, therefore you cannot see the gathered people and you do not get a very clear image of the atmosphere there.

One more video and a few photos can be seen at the link below:

http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=959979
 
Subcomandante Marcos, message for Greece


a You tube video with an English translation of the short message for the Uprising Greece
and a link about the same from Indy Media Athens, a full translation to follow
http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=960461

At the 1st global Festival of Dignifying Rage, that's taking place in Mexico, the insurgent sub-commander Marcos starts his address entitled "First breeze. An enraged dignified youth" with a salute in Greek :

"Comrades. Insurgent Greece. We, the smaller ones, from this corner of the world, we salute you.
Accept our respect and admiration about what you're considering and what you're doing. From a long distance we learn from you. Thank you."

Also the Zapatistas gave a symbolic gift to the insurgent Youth of Greece.
 
police shot

link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7810972.stm

just spotted this, which I presume will dominate discussions on Greece for the immediate future.

I have no interest in judging this act strategically or morally, but wherever this came from it may become a harder time for the people of Greece who hope for a brighter future. How many fascist mobs on the streets, how much police brutality, how much continuation of the status quo will this one story eclipse?

The narrative of Greece must be a people claiming their own freedom and building their own peace, because the alternative is unthinkable. The alternative is a government restoring order. How many people will be scared off by this (and again I am not interested in judging this event, just considering the consequences).

With Gaza in flames we may have already begun to forget about Greece, but now they may need us more than before.
 
link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7810972.stm

just spotted this, which I presume will dominate discussions on Greece for the immediate future.

I have no interest in judging this act strategically or morally, but wherever this came from it may become a harder time for the people of Greece who hope for a brighter future. How many fascist mobs on the streets, how much police brutality, how much continuation of the status quo will this one story eclipse?

The narrative of Greece must be a people claiming their own freedom and building their own peace, because the alternative is unthinkable. The alternative is a government restoring order. How many people will be scared off by this (and again I am not interested in judging this event, just considering the consequences).

With Gaza in flames we may have already begun to forget about Greece, but now they may need us more than before.


Discussions have started already and I may get back on this later, but I think it is very important to make a distinction : whatever the aims of those who fired their guns against the policemen and wherever they're directed from-"ideology" or whatever- we need to remember that their act does not and should not give carte blanche to the police state to start their usual brutal and illegal tactics, which they have started by beating already people around Exarhia some of whom they have arrested some not, and we should not for a minute forget this distinction, and the act of those "gunmen" should not "excuse" any more brutality or illegal /unconstitutional activities(they have isolated the area and people even living there NEED F... PERMISSION TO GO IN OR OUT of their own houses) of the police state.

Also people in Greece are not scared of "gunmen" but other guns and gun tactics.
That's it for now
 
Hello all first of all let me give you a few details of what happened last night.

There was a shooting from unknown people against a RIOT police squad, that was guarding the Ministry of Culture building, which is located near Exarchia.. One policeman got injured by this. DO NOT ASK ME who did it and whatever, I have NO CLUE, no group or anybody has claimed responsibility so far, and since this morning the only info that exists on the news and the media is coming from police sources.

I know though what happened in Exarchia square after the event. I know because I stayed in Exarchia last night, after the end of the demo in solidarity to Gaza. I also know because I happened to be with a friend at a bar there, in Exarchia square, having a few beers, and I was one of the 72 persons that the police detained and transfered to GADA, the police headquarters. Police in big numbers, together with riot police and the counter terrorism squad, blocked all Exarchia after the shooting and they are still blocking parts of the area as we are speaking now. They started aggressively detaining nearly EVERYBODY that was moving in the area, getting in cafeterias, in take aways, in bars and detaining randomly people, especially if you looked "suspicious", depending from your appearence, the way you were dressed. They beated up a lot of people at the spot, there was a lot of aggression from the cops against all of us at the square. Thankfully it was not repeated at GADA, our IDs were checked, we were asked some questions and then after a some hours we left. There were about 10 more remaining in GADA when I left, I have no clue if they are still there or not. Police is still in Exarchia in big numbers, they are doing a "door by door" search as we speak, to whoever they have "information" of being "suspicious" .... To be very specific the anti authoritarian and anarchist movement is directly targeted by the state as we speak, at least for now.... Of course we are not really suspicious of a murder attempt, but it was a nice excuse for the police to move around in Exarchia and be aggressive to a lot of people in the area.

As far as I know, also houses of people outside Exarchia are being searched.

I wont go on any further on this topic, there is a very big police investigation going on, the situation is very wierd though...
 
just to clarify my relatively lyrical ramblings about narratives of building peace were meant to emphasise that it should be the Greek people, not the Greek state, who should build this peace, on their own terms.

My point was that I am more worried now than I was before.
 
Every time a worker dies because of ridiculous working- health- regulations conditions, everytime a foreigner is beaten up in prison cells or police stations, or dies by police men for no reason absolutely, everytime a union woman gets drowned in acid, that's when we should get REALLY worried
 
A bit more info about the shooting.

What I will tell you here is what the major greek media are broadcasting, which is mostly information given by the police. I have no other alternative information about the event, apart from my first hand experience in Exarchia square last night, which I allready mentioned to you.

Now... They say that 2 different guns have been used for this attack, as well as an asault grenade. The grenade was firstly thrown and then about 30 shots were fired by 2 guns, one AK-47 (Kalasnicof) and one 9 mm gun. From the bullet shells that they have collected they say that the AK-47 is the same gun as the one that was used on 23rd of December against a Police Bus, but it is also the same gun that the "terrorist" group "Revolutionary Struggle" had used on an attack against police on 2007. Also the other bullet is comming from a gun like the ones Revolutionary Struggle uses, the grenade is also of a same type. Therefore according to the media the group "Revolutionary Struggle" is behind the attacks.

Here is a few info on wiki about this organization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Struggle

There are a lot of questions to be asked concerning the timming of both recent attacks, the locations that they did choose to target from, the methods they used etc but I dont know if this is the correct time now to go on this conversation here, especially when we still dont have any "officiall" claim of responsibility from any organization or group, and a communique by them analyzing the "reasons" and their "aims" for those attacks.
 
link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7810972.stm

just spotted this, which I presume will dominate discussions on Greece for the immediate future..

I think that the police, army and so on should riot, toss petrol bombs at anarchist and various comrades in solidarity with their mate.

Could burn a few copies of chairman Mao's little red book and copies of anything by Mikhail Bakunin and Alexander Berkman.

Anarchists don't have christmas trees except in Mummy and daddy's house so the books will have to do.
A comiteeeeeeeeeeee of cops could get together to decide what offices belonging to left wing groups they could burn down.
 
Hello all from Exarchia, Athens.

A big student demo took place today in the centre of Athens. More than 15000 demonstrators attended, in a demo against police brutality but also against the educational reforms that this government has passed and is passing forward. Also on a day as today, on 1991, the school teacher Temponeras was killed by members of the right wing youth party ONNED (youth of New Democracy our current government). On an educational reform that New Democracy was putting forward then (they were government again) the reaction of school students was again massive... Hundreds of school buildings in all over Greece were occupied and demos were taking place every few days. In a school in Patras, the school teacher was in favour of the occupation instead of against, being together with the students at the occupied school, something that the right wing thugs did not like so they attacked and murdered him. Big riots followed that murder.

Today, it was an another big and passionate demo, that gave a strong message to the state, that we are not afraid of them and their police, after the last events and the pogroms of the police in the centre of Athens. It was decided that it will be a mainly peacefull demo, and organised in order to form strong secure blocks that can not be broken by the police. The anarchist anti authoritarian block was big, with more than 2000 comrades, students and workers in between. You could really see people of all ages on the streets, students and academics, also and workers that were able to attend.

The demo started from Propylea the centre of Athens, went towards Syntagma square and the parliament building and returned towards Propylaia. At the end of the demo RIOT police in big numbers attacked the anarchists and students that were still on the street using massive ammounts of chemicals, throwing them even in propylea although there was not decision for not existance of the asylum.

You can see the attack on the following video :http://athens.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/6vcr_20090109_1543.flv

Stones were thrown against the police but because of the attack the demonstrators broke in various parts and run in the streets of Athens. About 100 demonstrators (among them and me) were trapped at Asklipioy str in a block of flats that we had entered. Police were outside surrounding the building, blocking the street and transferred there police buses for our arrest. A lot of people gathered at the point, demonstrators, citizens, journalists and lawyers, demanding for the police to let us go. After some minutes, the police attacked the gathered people with chemicals, and pushed them away including the journalists, attacking at least 2 of them (as far as I could see) with their clubs.

You can see a video of the people gathered in Asklipioy str here :

The video is filmed minutes before the police attack.

Also one more video is available on this url: http://www.tvxs.gr/v2972 . It shows quite well what took place in Asklipioy str.

Some of the gathered people were arrested on that spot, together with lawyers. I think I have not told you this so far, but legal team of lawyers has been formed, and is following all the demonstrations that are taking place during the last month, so they can be on the spot when arrests are taking place. In this way police brutality against the arrested is in a lot of occassions prevented, and the arrested person has some representation, because normally in GADA (police headquarters) the police has the habit to question people without letting them to get in contact to a lawyer first.

Finally the police that was surrounding us decided to let us go, and arrested only one person who was injured. We asked them to let him out of the building first in order to go to a hospital but they handcuffed him and got him in a police car instead.

One person that got injured by the police entered a clinic in order to get stiches on his head. After the treatment and when he got outside the clinic, the police attacked him and he got injured again!! He fell unconcious on the street and the medics of the clinic got out to give him first aid and get him back inside but were prevented by police ! I dont know what happened finally there..... Here is a photo of him after the second attack: http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=965926

A lot of people were arrested though and at Propylaia but also some in Exarchia, when clashes against the police started there. It was decided that us that were in Asklipioy, together with more people that arrived, to go on a solidarity demo for the arrested outside the GADA building.

Outside GADA about 1000 of us gathered, with police equally a lot. Even from the first minutes, the police attacked us and after many attacks and a lot of violence and spraying they managed to split us in 2, arresting more people. In total about 60 people have been arrested, 18 of them lawyers (!!).... As far as I know, the lawyers have been released up to now along with some demonstrators, but I dont know how many exactly. It is impossible to know how many and WHO are arrested, as the police does not leave any lawyers to approach the GADA building. Also some people were taken inside or outside the GADA building from the back door, so I have no clear view or info of how many. ....

After the recent event of the shooting of the 1 policeman, it was evident that police tried to respond aggressively and “take control” of the general situation. With the excuse of that incident they swept Exarchia detaining 75 of us during the first night (as I have already mentioned you on a previous post), and during the last week they have entered in a number of houses in Exarchia and elsewhere in Athens in order to search as they had information of “terrorist” activities. 13 comrades have been arrested from these house raids, all for minor offences though as they are not connected with any terrorist activity. A couple have been arrested and will pass from trial because they refused to give... fingerprints .... (!!)

We all knew and had understood that the police today would also repsond aggressively. That they would try to provoke clashes with them in order to attack and detain people. During our meetings on the last days, we had all decided to guard our blocks well in order to prevent this from happening. And WE DID, apart from the attack at the end. An attack that started out of nowhere, with no reason, with a lot of policemen attacking the people on the street, as they were not forming a block at the moment so that was possible... The use of violence from the police was much bigger than the “normal” considering that not any serious riots were taking place at the spot..

They definitely got their message. No matter how much they try to terrorise us, the movement stays strong and is there, determined to stand against the aggression of the police and the state.

NOTHING IS OVER YET.



Some photos can be found here : http://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=965627

Also an extended video of the demo, showing mainly the student blocks can be seen here : http://www.tvxs.gr/v2980

At the end some of the incidents are also displayed but not clearly the police attack as I showed you on the video before.
 
http://www.tvxs.gr/v2925

This video shows footage of 1991, firstly you see some people that were on the spot describing Temponeras murder, then the demos and riots that started in Patras. On the next day is the funeral, that passed from all the main streets of Patras and turned to a massive demo. Finally you see the arrested men that murdered Temponeras.

I was 13 years old on 1991, I was for months in our occupied school building, but was to young to attend any demos...

It all started with an educational reform that the conservative government of that time, New Democracy, wanted to bring forward. With this they were allowing for the existence of private universities (instead of public), they were also stopping all free textbooks in schools and universities. They also wanted to introduce a "point system", according to which all school kids with "bad behaviour" they would get points, and according to how many points they would get they could be forced to change classroom, not advance to next grade, or even be completely expelled from school. Finally they wanted to introduce again school uniforms, flag raising and national anthem every morning, and generally "militarise" school life.

The reaction of the school and university students was massive. 80% of high schools had been occupied by the students, as well as the most university departments. For months, the occupations were still taking place, and demos were happening every week, with 10000 to 50000 turning up every time.

When christmass holidays arrived, everyone in the government believed that this situation was over and that after the end of the holidays, the schools would start working again. They were wrong though, as the most general assemblies in schools all over Greece decided to continue the occupations and the demos, up to the point that the government would take back the new law. The ministry of education decided to order the school teachers to temporarely expell from school every single school student that was not attending class, trying in this way to terrorise the school students. Of course this never happened, as it was completely impossible to have hundreds of thousands of kids all over Greece to be expelled from their school....

There was also info in all over Greece, that parents followers of New Democracy, would go out from schools and demand them to open and classes to begin. Therefore the school students decided to guard even more their schools in order to protect the occupations. On 8/01/91, the first day that schools were officially starting working after the end of the holidays, in the occupied schools of all Greece, conservative parents were outside trying to create trouble and break the occupations.

In Patras, the local ONNED (New Democracy youth) leader Mr Kalampokas, together with his thugs, armed themselves with clubs and stones and attacked agains the students of a school building demanding them to leave. The kids left, the thugs occupied the building themselves and demanded for the school teachers to go there so classes to start. A group of parents and teachers though were against that development. The occupation should be stopped by the school kids and not some thugs who attacked and occupied the building. This group therefore gathered and went to that school in order to tell the thugs to leave. The thugs attacked and injured heavilly 2 people, mr Temponeras and one more school teacher. Temponeras head got completely crashed and died on the spot.

All Patras got on the streets when this development got know. Thousands flooded Patras, in spontanious demonstrations against this brutality. Riots quickly started as well.

In Athens demos and riots started on the following days. I still remember a big shopping centre in the middle of Athens that was put on fire because of some tear gass bombs that landed inside it. The firemen that went there to put out the fire WERE ATTACKED WITH CHEMICALS FROM THE POLICE (!!!) and had to leave, letting the building in flames. After the fire stopped, 4 people were found inside the building completely burned.

After all these developments, the minister of education resigned, and the new one took away the reform, so all the occupations stopped. Kalampokas and one more of his friends, were sentenced to life imprisonment, but they were both set free on 1998, only 7 years after, because their "behaviour was good". Kalampokas is now living and working at a bank in Volos.

Today 18 years later, school and university departments are again taken over, because of an another murder this time, the murder of young Alexandros on 6/12/08. A murder that happened by a policeman, who represents the state, and is equally horrible and fascist, with the murder of Temponeras.

TEMPONERAS AND ALEXIS WILL CONTINUE TO BE ALIVE AS LONG AS THE MOVEMENT CONTINUES.

WE DID NOT SAY OUR FINAL WORD, THIS IS THE YEAR OF ALEXIS.
 
an addition to Dimitris' post about the demo

My contribution to the info about the demo today:
Without trying to exaggerate the numbers, or the atmosphere of the demo I believe it was even better, bigger and with a stronger "vibration" than the big one (16th of Dec, I think, the one we had when there was a strike throughout most sectors) and that alone is a great achievement in itself after the intimidation or the terror tactics and fear propaganda from the police and the media.
Everybody I care to know was worried about the attendance for this demo today, especially after the recent events and every thing else that happened afterwards- the going back to familiar brutal, terror, scare and intimidation tactics by the police and all their "friends". That was before this afternoon, and especially after 1.00 p.m. and by a bit after 2 -2.30 p.m. (when we started demonstrating towards the Parliament)when the crowd was getting bigger by the minute.(I can not estimate properly the numbers, so I won't attempt , but I'll say this: It was huge!! and without gaps in between).

We have proven that the streets are ours for the taking!!
Their terror tactics they can use it for something else, they don't sell anymore!!

I was somewhere in the middle when we started, and ended up in the front part of the demo by the time it reached the Parliament, with the group of teachers and academics( i think there were some lawyers in that group as well from the legal team that have joined today in big numbers to offer some kind of protection for any possible incidents with the police, like the ones on previous demos). Until we reached Syndagma square there wasn't much police presence to speak of , at least none that I noticed, but at Syndagma there were plenty, some guarding the side of the hotel Great Britannia and many more at the sides of Parliament and even more blocking Vasilisis ave(the side road of the Parliament) with at least two police vans behind them. At this presence of the riot squads the demo stopped and started shouting slogans such as "we won't have demos with police in the streets" and "not much has changed, the dictatorship from '73 is still here" and the very appropriate one "cops, pigs, murderers". We stayed there shouting and waiting for the riot squads to move away and they did for a few meters(the riot squad at the side of the hotel) but not much, and at that point there was some cheering and laughing. There was some kind of negotiation with the chiefs there that took a few more minutes and all the time slogans shouted at them, but they did not move, especially the ones at the left side of the parliament moved a bit forward. After a bit , at least 10 minutes, the front part of the demo started again heading towards Propylaia , where the demo started from.
There was a small gap between the front part and the next group coming(I believe it was from the students of the Polytechnic), and it became bigger when this next group directed towards the riot squads in front of the police vans at Vassilisis avenue. They went very close to the riot squads and shouted slogans and stayed there for at least another 10 minutes, I don't know if there was any negotiation there as well with the chiefs, but there were some people that seemed to be doing so. At this point the front part of the demo stopped again and waited for the next group to join, some of us returned back. There weren't any results from any negotiations that could have happened, I wasn't too close to see or hear properly, but at some point this group of protesters turned back and right to Panepistimiou street and continued with the demo. At this point I followed as well and at the time we reached Propylaia I left, it was bitterly cold and have been down at Propylaia since 11.30am so I did not stay any longer. There were riot squads on all side streets of Panepistimiou str until just before Propylaia, but a bit in the middle of the streets and on the pavements almost in "hiding" mode, they were not provoking or anything, at least when I passed.
(On my way home I passed again from the murder site, there were a few people reading the many letters, notes and dedications to his life , his memory and our promises to him instead of a requiem. "We won't forget and this time, this time it will be their death" to quote from a famous greek song that was sung during the dictatorship in Greece. Their terror will die this time, this time we WILL WIN.)
About the clashes afterwards I have no info to contribute from personal knowledge.
Some thoughts on the subject though: if there wasn't any, or much police presence, like there wasn't much at the duration of the demo until the Parliament, how would there have been any clashes? Couldn't they for once stay the hell out?
Anyway, I'm not sure if Dimitris has mentioned this already but there was another demo that started from the War Museum-I think- and headed towards the us embassy and the israeli embassy, and it was organized by the KKE.
I feel the need to express my personal disgust at this attempt from the KKE to dissociate themselves from the other groups protesting today, as if they and only they care about the massacre in Palestine, and had to protest separately today, when there is a call for a demo - solidarity to Palestine for tomorrow and also ignoring this demo in memory also of Temponeras ( I guess Temponeras as well as the student's demands weren't high enough causes). I will leave it there, but I think at times like these we need to be in the mode of inclusive attitude and not exclusive and to join forces all of us together no matter what ideological differences there are, instead of presenting ourselves as the only true representatives of the movement and the struggle. It is very sad, and I hope this changes for the benefit of the movement, the struggle and of all of us.

to finish this post I will repeat that, with today's demo we've proven to everybody - including ourselves - that most definitely NOTHING IS OVER!! We will fight their terrorist policies by being out there on the streets and everywhere else that the movement direct us!! We WILL WIN!!
"IN THE STREETS, IN THE STREETS TO DRIVE AWAY THEIR TERROR"

* there was a point before the demo started when there were speeches from all kinds of representatives (students, radical left groups in solidarity to Kouneva, from Palestinian groups in Greece etc) and there was a very moving moment when they read the message from sub-commander Marcos, in greek and also from an audio, that was very moving and I saw people I was with tearing up, I won't forget this either.
 
Thanks for the info. Keep it coming.
It seems Greece has slipped off the radar a bit due
to the atrocities in Gaza.
 
Stella they really wanted to attack... They did not manage throughout the demo, or even at Syntagma because the demo was big and solid. They found an "excuse" to attack at Propylaia at the end because.... 3 eggs were thrown at them. The responce to those eggs was tear gass, clubs on heads of demonstrators, and generally hours of running and hitting after the end of the demo at Asklipiou str and later at GADA.

I did the mistake on the point of the attack not to react quickly so I found myself with a group of not organised demonstrators and lawyers (from the legal team) and we were chased up to Asklipiou str where we got trapped. The word "junta" says nothing in order to describe what took place in Asklipiou. The cops that gathered there were more than double of us, they were not letting anyone to approach, they were hitting demonstrators, lawyers, journalists, citizens who got out of their homes, everyone. At least 3 people near where I was got injured badly because of the police beating, it was a miracle actually that they finally left us to go from there, I was sure that I would get arrested.

At GADA everyone again witnessed massive police aggression. The clear intentions of the police was not to let anyone to gather outside GADA, so they attacked even if they were not provoked by anybody. We were well organized and it was difficult for them to break us, but they finally did split us in two after mutliple attacks and a lot of chemicals...

Yes I did not mention the KKE demo before you are right... What can anyone say about them ... They always decide to split the movement, we could easily be much more than 20000 if they were on the same demo as well. What mrs Papariga though (their leader) has said on various TV interviews during the last month, clearly shows that their true intentions are not to fight against the system but to support it instead.
 
Hello all from Exarchia, Athens.

A big student demo took place today in the centre of Athens. More than 15000 demonstrators attended, in a demo against police brutality but also against the educational reforms that this government has passed and is passing forward.

Today, it was an another big and passionate demo, that gave a strong message to the state, that we are not afraid of them and their police, after the last events and the pogroms of the police in the centre of Athens. It was decided that it will be a mainly peacefull demo, and organised in order to form strong secure blocks that can not be broken by the police. The anarchist anti authoritarian block was big, with more than 2000 comrades, students and workers in between. You could really see people of all ages on the streets, students and academics, also and workers that were able to attend.

................................ RIOT police in big numbers attacked the anarchists and students that were still on the street using massive ammounts of chemicals, throwing them even in propylea although there was not decision for not existance of the asylum.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/europe/7820980.stm
Hooded youths broke away from a student march against education reforms and threw stones and flares at riot police, who fired tear gas and flash grenades.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28577375/
A group of demonstrators broke away from a rally by thousands of students protesting government education reforms and hurled rocks and flares at riot police who responded with tear gas and flash grenades. At least six protesters were detained, an Associated Press reporter witnessed.

I just thought I would mention that the fucking twats who attacked first were the rioters and the police only responded to their brutality.

The poster neglected to mention it. :)
 
NO it was not the "fucking twats" that started fist... It was 3 eggs that started this. Yes stones and a couple of petrol bombs were thrown when the attack started, this is what trapped me as well because I stayed on the street more than I should. You can see the video of the attack on my previous post anyway, can you see any petrol bombs??

Wearing full face gas mask is very good for the chemicals, but I did not have good control of what was happening, you have to actually turn your head left and right all the time in order to see .....

Anyway there is no way that we will ever agree on this subject derf, the media do not always report EXACTLY what is going on at the streets, a friend of mine who was watching the TV all afternoon (sick in bed) he said that our public TV channel said completely nothing, on MEGA CHANNEL one journalist talked about "a few thousand" giving the idea that we are talking about 4 to 5000 only on the street... No matter that one of his collegues (journalist from the same TV channel) got visiously beaten by the cops because he was filming a very violent arrest...

Cameramen have a lot of videos and photos of police aggression during this last month, videos that are never played on TV.. their union has decided and announced this, they have also announced that whoever was visiously attacked or beaten by police, or being charged with actions that did not do, can phone call this union and ask to find out if there is any video or photo that can help them on court.

A number of arrested have been freed, because videos happened to exist that prooved their innocence, although they were charged with arson attempts, possession of explosives and so on ....
 
Stella they really wanted to attack... They did not manage throughout the demo, or even at Syntagma because the demo was big and solid. They found an "excuse" to attack at Propylaia at the end because.... 3 eggs were thrown at them. The responce to those eggs was tear gass, clubs on heads of demonstrators, and generally hours of running and hitting after the end of the demo at Asklipiou str and later at GADA.

I did the mistake on the point of the attack not to react quickly so I found myself with a group of not organised demonstrators and lawyers (from the legal team) and we were chased up to Asklipiou str where we got trapped. The word "junta" says nothing in order to describe what took place in Asklipiou. The cops that gathered there were more than double of us, they were not letting anyone to approach, they were hitting demonstrators, lawyers, journalists, citizens who got out of their homes, everyone. At least 3 people near where I was got injured badly because of the police beating, it was a miracle actually that they finally left us to go from there, I was sure that I would get arrested.

At GADA everyone again witnessed massive police aggression. The clear intentions of the police was not to let anyone to gather outside GADA, so they attacked even if they were not provoked by anybody. We were well organized and it was difficult for them to break us, but they finally did split us in two after mutliple attacks and a lot of chemicals...

Yes I did not mention the KKE demo before you are right... What can anyone say about them ... They always decide to split the movement, we could easily be much more than 20000 if they were on the same demo as well. What mrs Papariga though (their leader) has said on various TV interviews during the last month, clearly shows that their true intentions are not to fight against the system but to support it instead.

Now , about the police wanting to attack, I think you're obviously right about it. The new guy at the ministry-I don't remember his name it starts with M something- may have something to do with it or even they may had the OK from higher up.
Look, I know it may appear naive on my part, but I am still optimistic about how things will develop from here. We need the numbers out there, and even after all the intimidation and fear tactics we had the numbers. Yes, they can try all the familiar brutality, but that is also a sign they're losing , if not the game yet, definitely the plot. We need to continue getting out there and encouraging more and more people to join, I managed yesterday to get some people to join the demo, that hadn't left their couch in years, we need to work on that as well with every means and don't get slack about this either. A lot needs to be done, and I think the will is there to do it, from all groups and many people , some of whom you wouldn't expect it from, so that is the main reason I remain optimistic.
The fact we've got some lawyers on our side and even Journalists(now that is interesting to say the least)that our willing to get beaten up or offer to get arrested themselves and let the young people go ( I saw that clip you posted yesterday) is a sign that things are changing in the right direction , it is also a sign that the numbers are on our side, and it will become evident even more on the coming weeks, months,... , however long it takes. But we need to keep the spirit of the movement alive, keep working on everything that needs to be done, keep a clear head, and be inclusive in our efforts no matter the differences, and we will get there!! There's something different in the air..., can't you feel it as well? I saw it yesterday in peoples' smiles, in their eyes that showed anger as well as determination, I heard it in the loud and determined slogans, I just felt it, I don't think I'm wrong.
Anyway, we will see...
As far as KKE's attitude, I won't repeat what I posted yesterday. I haven't been able to understand the validity of some of their tactics in years, no matter how hard I've tried. I hope they realize that, when they get kudos from just the fascists for their tactics, there's something wrong with this picture!!
And on a personal note. For f... sake can't you try a tiny bit to avoid the chemicals for a few days?(sorry about my tone, but were you wearing a mask at least?)Anyway, try to be SAFE !! My support , thoughts and wishes always with you and yours. KEEP SAFE!!

* I've seen from your recent post that you were wearing a mask, well that's something.
And as far as some replies to certain ... people, you see how difficult it is to refrain from replying to them at times? ;)
 
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ESIEA building is occupied since this morning ! :)

ESIEA is basically the syndicalist body of all journalists and media in Greece. The occupation started from workers at the media and journalist students, who are protesting against all the major media of Greece, TV radio and newspapers, because of the false image that they present of all last month's activities.

They have a blog http://katalipsiesiea.blogspot.com/ which is unfortunately only in greek up to now, hopefully they will have an english translation soon.

They have issued a communique, I will try to translate in english and post it here.
 
One more video from Asklipiou str :

:mad::mad::mad:

Edited to add one more video from GADA this time it can be seen here : http://www.tvxs.gr/v2987

At the beginning it shows some lawyers that are not allowed entry in GADA, although they are there to represent the arrested. It then shows us, arriving at the point, demonstrating in solidarity to the arrested and against police brutality. It clearly shows the attack against us, and the massive amount of chemicals and stud grenades that they threw. It then shows arrests of people, who have done completely nothing. The lawyers that were there tried to negotiate with the cops but there was no result. At a point an MP arrives from a left party, and he is speaking on the phone with Mr Paulopoulos, minister of the government, talking about the arrested. Finally nearly at the end of the video, you see the arrested LAWYERS, members of the legal aid team that has been formed, being released and getting out of GADA, and describing how they got arrested at Asklipiou str, because they were asking to pass to us that we were surrounded.

As they say the riot police are hiding their police numbers, and are not stating their name, something that is completely illegal. They wanted to press charges against the police, because they got beaten up and detained, kidnapped actually, for no apparent reason, but they did not know WHO to get to the court, as they were not given any info on who were the policemen or who was the one in command ....
 
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ESIEA building is occupied since this morning ! :)

ESIEA is basically the syndicalist body of all journalists and media in Greece. The occupation started from workers at the media and journalist students, who are protesting against all the major media of Greece, TV radio and newspapers, because of the false image that they present of all last month's activities.

They have a blog http://katalipsiesiea.blogspot.com/ which is unfortunately only in greek up to now, hopefully they will have an english translation soon.

They have issued a communique, I will try to translate in english and post it here.


from the journalists' communique"... so some men/women who we are working at the field of media we are taking side next to the fighters(of the uprising)"

Joining forces with the movement part 1. To be continued...!!
 
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ESIEA building is occupied since this morning ! :)

ESIEA is basically the syndicalist body of all journalists and media in Greece. The occupation started from workers at the media and journalist students, who are protesting against all the major media of Greece, TV radio and newspapers, because of the false image that they present of all last month's activities.
They have issued a communique, I will try to translate in english and post it here.

Now you are getting it. When the media tells a truth that doesn't fit your version just take over the media and broadcast your own truth.

Well done. Now you are really getting the hang of taking over a country and will soon be ready to form your own police state, set up re-education camps and shoot all dissidents and fascists.
Welcome to the world of power hungry motherfuckers comrade.
Hitler, Mugabe, Stalin, Dimitris.
 
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