Apple WWDC 2010 keynote (iPhone 4 announced)

[editor]

Exactly the sort of people who are completely uninterested in philosophical arguments about open source [blah] I can install shell [bored] and recompile the operating system [uh?] not that I have done but I could if I wanted to [please stop talking].

Normal people, basically.

A lot of normal people aren't even slightly interested in shelling out loads of money for a stylish smartphone too. Crazy!

I wish they'd stick a FM radio in the iPhone. Every ruddy phone since my crappy Nokia from a zillion years ago hasn't had one either and I really miss the feature.

 

[elbows]

Safari 5 is available now, it seems to be running quite nicely on my mac, although Im only able to compare it properly to the previous Safari as I only use Chrome & Firefox sporadically.

Gives me another target for HTML5-based development too, namely in-browser widgets/extensions.

Ive not tried to find a site that can make use of the Reader functionality yet, amusing to see it marketed as a way to avoid those annoying adverts when trying to read.

 

[Winot]

I wish they'd stick a FM radio in the iPhone. Every ruddy phone since my crappy Nokia from a zillion years ago hasn't had one either and I really miss the feature.

Aren't they getting rid of FM in a few years in favour of DAB?

 

[Sunray]

Aren't they getting rid of FM in a few years in favour of DAB?

Due to the fact that all the current DAB receivers now in use are to be obsoleted by the upgrade to DAB+ so that they can even think about such a move, its gonna be a mute point for a long time yet.

When 2020 hits which is the time scales your talking about, LTE should be fully rolled out, it may well signal the end of radio broadcasts in that form.

 

[Sunray]

A lot of normal people aren't even slightly interested in shelling out loads of money for a stylish smartphone too. Crazy!

I wish they'd stick a FM radio in the iPhone. Every ruddy phone since my crappy Nokia from a zillion years ago hasn't had one either and I really miss the feature.

You'll have access to all the BBC channels fully multi tasked. I found all the Fm receivers I've had on phones a huge power draw.

 

[Pie 1]

I really can't think of any everyday use for video chat. One of the reasons texting took off was because it was less hassle than calling.

Tbf, You're not exactly the core audience for it though. Nor am I.

I can see however the great appeal to say family's - for example: Dad gets to say good night to the kids faces whilst on the road & in the US esspecially, it's extremely common for families to move a lot & be spread out across the country.

 

[g force]

I know at least three organisations in the last year which have switched over to them too. One with over 60 staff (about half having them), it's really taking over...

It really isn't by any statistical measure. Sure more firms are choosing them but for every "X is offering iPhone" there's a good many more that have just chosen BlackBerry except it doesn't make the news.

It's gaining grounbd but taking over? It's not even overtaken Symbian yet and that's entirely down to the hardware cost and replacing parts.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Apple WWDC 2010 keynote

A lot of normal people aren't even slightly interested in shelling out loads of money for a stylish smartphone too. Crazy!

I wish they'd stick a FM radio in the iPhone. Every ruddy phone since my crappy Nokia from a zillion years ago hasn't had one either and I really miss the feature.

There's apps for radio, and now multi tasking exists you've no complaint.

 

[sim667]

Bah

cannot believe they didnt implement lockinfo into the new OS........ such a simple thing, but its bloody brilliant on my 3g!

I think it'd be really sweet if o2 included a spotify subscription in their contract...... not that they will, but i bet it'd get a lot of people using their contracts.

 

[grit]

I wish they'd stick a FM radio in the iPhone. Every ruddy phone since my crappy Nokia from a zillion years ago hasn't had one either and I really miss the feature.

The reason I've heard for this never happening is, jobs doesn't like not being able to guarantee the quality of audio provided as its fm radio.

 

[Crispy]

Why'd he let one on the ipod nano then?

 

[grit]

Why'd he let one on the ipod nano then?

Oh wasnt aware it was on the nano, fair enough that must not be the reason then. Maybe its just down to the fact that you have only so much space in the case and its felt that a fm radio isint as impressive as a better camera or something?

 

[editor]

You'll have access to all the BBC channels fully multi tasked. I found all the Fm receivers I've had on phones a huge power draw.

There is zero chance I'm going to be still using a phone I buy now in 2020 so DAB is a non issue, and an FM radio will draw a lot less power than any streamed internet solution and will most likely be a lot more reliable.

The reason I've heard for this never happening is, jobs doesn't like not being able to guarantee the quality of audio provided as its fm radio.

Have you ever listened to streaming radio on the move? Drop outs galore!

 

[Ted Striker]

The reason I've heard for this never happening is, jobs doesn't like not being able to guarantee the quality of audio provided as its fm radio.

He's clearly never used the supplied Apple headphones then

 

[Crispy]

He's clearly never used the supplied Apple headphones then

fucking awful aren't they? They could at least use the rubber design that actually stay in your ear

 

[WWWeed]

Why did Apple come up with iAds, the company's new platform for mobile advertising? It had nothing to do with the $60 million Apple has already taken in from companies like Nissan, GE and Best Buy. And it apparently didn't have anything to do with Apple's plans to control nearly half of the market for mobile ads. No, the real reason is simple. As CEO Steve Jobs explained it today, Apple created iAds "for one simple reason: to help our developers earn money so they can continue to create free and low-cost apps for users."

Speaking at the company's annual developers' conference, Jobs showed off a number of features of the new ad platform, including interactivity, video, and "emotion," all from within iPhone apps. Apple's business model is to both sell and host the ads, for which the company will take a 40% cut of the revenue. In a prepared statement, Jobs said:

“iAd offers advertisers the emotion of TV with the interactivity of the web, and offers users a new way to explore ads without being hijacked out of their favorite apps,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “iAds will reach millions of iPhone and iPod touch users—a highly desirable demographic for advertisers—and provide developers a new way to earn money so they can continue developing free and low cost applications.”

Jobs did not state whether the bandwidth used to download iAds would be deducted from consumers' data plan allotment. When the platform was announced earlier this year, all iPhones came with unlimited data plans. However, AT&T recently shifted to metered plans for new customers.

In just eight weeks, according to Jobs, the company has sold over $60 million in ads, which represents nearly half of the total projected U.S. market for mobile ads in the second half of 2010. The new platform rolls out on July 1st.

http://consumerist.com/2010/06/idealistic-apple-developed-iads-to-help-software-developers.html

so what do people think about this?

 

[Ted Striker]

fucking awful aren't they? They could at least use the rubber design that actually stay in your ear

They're not earphones, they're tinny external speakers as part of a subverted advertising strategy so that each iPhone wearer alerts to everyone on the carriage they are listening to an iPod.

Like the treble of every Rihanna is son is the Apple brand theme music.

 

[Crispy]

http://consumerist.com/2010/06/idealistic-apple-developed-iads-to-help-software-developers.html

so what do people think about this?

If it gets developers paid, and doesn't get in the way of the user too badly, it's a good thing. There are already lots of ad supported apps in the store, but the ads are annoying and crap looking.

 

[elevendayempire]

fucking awful aren't they? They could at least use the rubber design that actually stay in your ear

These ones are pretty good, plus they have all the functionality of the remote/mic thingy on the supplied headphones.

 

[editor]

If you can afford them,these are absolutely fantastic - and they have full remote functionality.
http://www.wirefresh.com/v-moda-remix-remote-earphones-for-the-iphone-3gsipod-review/

 

[Kanda]

If you can afford them,these are absolutely fantastic - and they have full remote functionality.
http://www.wirefresh.com/v-moda-remix-remote-earphones-for-the-iphone-3gsipod-review/

I found those quite annoying. The weight of the metal volume controls and they kept clipping on my jacket. Sound was good though.

 

[editor]

Hands on review of the iPhone 4 here: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-phones/hands-on-apple-iphone-4-review-694888

 

[Ted Striker]

These are phenomenal for the pricepoint. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Klipsch-Image-X1-Headphones/dp/B002EL3P5U

I'm a massive earphone snob, but having ones that, for the first time, were so light that you didn't actually notice they were there, is outstanding.

 

[stupid dogbot]

I love my CX55s. £20, great sound, mine have lasted ages.

 

[elevendayempire]

My trouble is I need the remote/mic combo - I've got so used to being able to triple-click to go back a song, single-click to pause, hold for voice control and so forth, that I really can't do without that. I ended up just going for the Apple in-ears after reading that they had pretty good sound quality. Don't Bose do a pair with the remote/mic combo?

 

[Pie 1]

You're now discussing headphone brand merits on the Apple developers keynote thread

 

[editor]

I don't know whether to merge this with the extant iPhone thread or not as the keynote is over and all the chat is about the new iPhone (and related items).

 

[Crispy]

You can watch the presentation now

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc10/index.html

 

[editor]

You can watch the presentation now

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc10/index.html

I sat through text updates across multiple sites yesterday for nearly two hours, so I think I'll give the video rerun a miss!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

You're now discussing headphone brand merits on the Apple developers keynote thread

Innit but you know that's how we roll man...