Apple WWDC 2010 keynote (iPhone 4 announced)

[skyscraper101]

Yeah I realise. But I want it all.

 

[maldwyn]

As I understand it the current 64GB iPod Touch is comprised of 2 x 32GB chips, that would be a tight squeeze for an iPhone.

 

[skyscraper101]

64Gb is nowhere near enough space though to carry my immense music collection. I need approx 160gig, and that doesn't include video. Looks like I'll be carrying round two devices if I get this.

 

[grit]

64Gb is nowhere near enough space though to carry my immense music collection. I need approx 160gig, and that doesn't include video. Looks like I'll be carrying round two devices if I get this.

You really need to carry around your whole collection all the time? For my day to day listening I can easily have ten gigs as enough. Every few evenings I might sync some new tunes.

 

[maldwyn]

How much would a 160GB SSD cost these days?

 

[Winot]

I've never had a video call on my mobile, nor would I want to. I only want to do video via webcam on skype.

Yeah but the reason you haven't had a video call on your mobile is that to date it's been expensive and crap. If Apple can replicate Skype (or even better) on a mobile, surely you'll replace one with the other at least sometimes?

I use Skype occasionally to say goodnight to the kids when I'm working late. It is a bit painful to be honest - first we have to make contact by phone, then Mrs Winot rounds the kids up and gets them in front of the desktop, fires it up, starts Skype, during which I am doing the same on my laptop. And then the connection isn't always great.

If I can call her iPhone<-->iPhone then just start the video call while she chases the kids round the house it'll improve the process tremendously. Not enough of an advantage to be a game changer for us, sure, but enough of a tipping point for sufficient users that it *will* have a global effect.

 

[skyscraper101]

Yeah but the reason you haven't had a video call on your mobile is that to date it's been expensive and crap. If Apple can replicate Skype (or even better) on a mobile, surely you'll replace one with the other at least sometimes?

No not really. I'm fairly sure that my inclusive package of minutes and texts includes a fair amount of inclusive 'video minutes' - I still never bother using them.

In any case, I mainly use my mobile phone if I'm not at home, and not at work. Usually, if I'm on the move or in a public place. There no way I want to be having a public conversation speaking loudly at the phone and having half the place listen in on the conversation. It would just look wierd in a pub or on a bus. Although it would work maybe if you're out on your own somewhere quiet and remote. But then you'd still need 3G or Wifi. Not great for remote hilltop walking/ Could work in a London park though I spose. As I said, phone to ear is ideal for most circumstances I think. Unless you have a real reason to see the person on the end. There's not much of an incentive, you no doubt know what the person looks like.

For you though I can see it may be useful to see the kids. But I'd bet the majority of people wouldn't have such a specific need, or would rather get round a puter to do a proper skype session if possible. no?

 

[magneze]

How much would a 160GB SSD cost these days?

Loads

 

[Crispy]

minimum 300 quid or so

 

[grit]

No not really. I'm fairly sure that my inclusive package of minutes and texts includes a fair amount of inclusive 'video minutes' - I still never bother using them.

In any case, I mainly use my mobile phone if I'm not at home, and not at work. Usually, if I'm on the move or in a public place. There no way I want to be having a public conversation speaking loudly at the phone and having half the place listen in on the conversation. It would just look wierd in a pub or on a bus. Although it would work maybe if you're out on your own somewhere quiet and remote. But then you'd still need 3G or Wifi. Not great for remote hilltop walking/ Could work in a London park though I spose. As I said, phone to ear is ideal for most circumstances I think. Unless you have a real reason to see the person on the end. There's not much of an incentive, you no doubt know what the person looks like.

For you though I can see it may be useful to see the kids. But I'd bet the majority of people wouldn't have such a specific need, or would rather get round a puter to do a proper skype session if possible. no?

This is the whole thing, its not about technology, people just dont want/care about it. I can only see really niche groups using it, to be honest the only people I've come across using video calls with any sort of regular use is the deaf.

 

[Winot]

No not really. I'm fairly sure that my inclusive package of minutes and texts includes a fair amount of inclusive 'video minutes' - I still never bother using them.

In any case, I mainly use my mobile phone if I'm not at home, and not at work. Usually, if I'm on the move or in a public place. There no way I want to be having a public conversation speaking loudly at the phone and having half the place listen in on the conversation. It would just look wierd in a pub or on a bus. Although it would work maybe if you're out on your own somewhere quiet and remote. But then you'd still need 3G or Wifi. Not great for remote hilltop walking/ Could work in a London park though I spose. As I said, phone to ear is ideal for most circumstances I think. Unless you have a real reason to see the person on the end. There's not much of an incentive, you no doubt know what the person looks like.

For you though I can see it may be useful to see the kids. But I'd bet the majority of people wouldn't have such a specific need, or would rather get round a puter to do a proper skype session if possible. no?

Fair enough - I wouldn't use it out and about either. I just remember thinking that mobile phones would never take off because why couldn't you just wait till you got home to have the conversation. Instead the availability created the need. My guess is that if the technology works and is cheap enough/free, it will be used.

 

[grit]

I just remember thinking that mobile phones would never take off because why couldn't you just wait till you got home to have the conversation. Instead the availability created the need.

Its not such a huge jump in convenience from audio to video call. Its also a concept a lot of people (myself included) have no desire for.

For example how can I answer video calls and tell the missus with a straight face I'm not in the pub when she can see that I am?

 

[Winot]

Its not such a huge jump in convenience from audio to video call. Its also a concept a lot of people (myself included) have no desire for.

For example how can I answer video calls and tell the missus with a straight face I'm not in the pub when she can see that I am?

Clearly Apple need to work on integrating live backgrounds into iOS4.

 

[kyser_soze]

http://newsarse.com/2010/06/08/steve-jobs-unveils-reasons-why-your-iphone-is-already-rubbish/

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...rs-forced-to-sit-at-back-of-bus-201006082795/