Notorious J.I.M
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Wonder what they mean by 'special upgrade deal'?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/o2-also-announces-iphone-4-for-24-june-694760
Apple WWDC 2010 keynote (iPhone 4 announced)
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hiraethified
Nope. Can't say I've ever wanted to stream video to anyone in those circumstances - and it would be a fat lot of good if the other person isn''t sat at a suitably equipped PC or strutting around with a 4G of their own.
Kanda
Diving wanker
Not for you then. Most people i know will probably be 'strutting around' with 4G's though.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
also offering £198 for my old 16GB 3G. too good to be true?
http://www.o2recycle.co.uk/phoneSelected.asp?phoneID=2322
Kanda
Diving wanker
also offering £198 for my old 16GB 3G. too good to be true?
http://www.o2recycle.co.uk/phoneSelected.asp?phoneID=2322
They'll probably take that as part of the upgrade process. That's what they done to me last year.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Yeah, there appeared to be some demand for this judging by early iPad launch gripes, hard to tell what %age of people though. If Apple wanted to be nice they could probably offer a camera as an accessory to plugin to the iPad dock connector, but building it into a future iPad seems a safer bet. Maybe a 3rd party will be able to offer an addon if Apple dont, not sure, havent thought about all the practical implications but seems possible.
From what I can tell the big hits with desktop-based live video chat via the web are things like grandparent who live far away getting to see their grandkids. That and some much seedier and filthier uses. If videoblogging is anything to go by then cultural differences will play quite a role, eg Americans a bit more likely to do it than Brits. And some other cultures that I dont know about maybe much more likely to do it.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Yeah probably, they can have it. Got my trusty old nokia 6300 as a back up/Glastonbury phone.
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hiraethified
You must move in different circles to me because there is no way on earth that most of the people I know are going to be carrying 4G's any time soon.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I'd think that maybe video calls have some different status in the US than they do here or something, only all of the US correspondents that I know have been saying "video? who the fuck wants that?"
Kanda
Diving wanker
Most people i know and work with have 3GS's and will more than likely upgrade asap. People at work are given Blackberrys but still went and got iPhones for personal even though they can use blackberrys for personal
Even Moonpig has both and she's normally not bothered about tech.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
also offering £198 for my old 16GB 3G. too good to be true?
http://www.o2recycle.co.uk/phoneSelected.asp?phoneID=2322
£282 for the 32 gig 3GS?!
Is this fer real? That's more than I paid for it!!
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hiraethified
I can see the appeal for distant grandmas and the like, but a lot of them will already be happy using free services like Skype. Obviously teens are going to love it (live happyslapping!) and it's going to be a treat for the pornos. I fear gigs are going to become an even bigger pain in the arse with illuminated forests of 4Gs being waved aloft.
It'll be absolutely ace for journos though - but it would have been a lot more useful if it worked over 3G.
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hiraethified
Didn't you buy them for her?
Kanda
Diving wanker
Nope.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Most people i know and work with have 3GS's and will more than likely upgrade asap. People at work are given Blackberrys but still went and got iPhones for personal even though they can use blackberrys for personal
Even Moonpig has both and she's normally not bothered about tech.
Virtually all my friends have either an iPhone or Blackberry, and the Blackberry owners were waiting for the iPhone to come out on their networks and contracts to end bar one person. The iPhone has become the new Nokia.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I know at least three organisations in the last year which have switched over to them too. One with over 60 staff (about half having them), it's really taking over...
elbows
Well-Known Member
In the limited circles I move in here in the midlands, working with people who are more working class than middle class, but being middleclass myself in terms of 'my parent were teachers' and I grew up in a fairly nice area..
4 people at work have iphones, a pretty small percentage. The owner and the reps would have company iphones by now if it were not for ongoing cashflow woes. About half my old friends who I am recently catching up with seem to have iphones. My Dad and Brother got iphones in the last 6 months (and thus didnt want the new iphone to be too good as they cant justify upgrading for some time). From what I can tell most of the people who have not got an iphone do not have one because of price (or not being issued one through work), not seeing the point in a smartphone at all, and for a few its the size of the device or the lack of keyboard that puts them off. Nobody I know in the flesh has ever mentioned Android, WebOS, Windows Phone 7 or lack of flash, two know of Blackberries, one has a crap fake iphone. A few of the iphoneless people have ipod touches. 4 people are quite likely to get ipads within the next 6 months, including my Dad.
4 people at work have iphones, a pretty small percentage. The owner and the reps would have company iphones by now if it were not for ongoing cashflow woes. About half my old friends who I am recently catching up with seem to have iphones. My Dad and Brother got iphones in the last 6 months (and thus didnt want the new iphone to be too good as they cant justify upgrading for some time). From what I can tell most of the people who have not got an iphone do not have one because of price (or not being issued one through work), not seeing the point in a smartphone at all, and for a few its the size of the device or the lack of keyboard that puts them off. Nobody I know in the flesh has ever mentioned Android, WebOS, Windows Phone 7 or lack of flash, two know of Blackberries, one has a crap fake iphone. A few of the iphoneless people have ipod touches. 4 people are quite likely to get ipads within the next 6 months, including my Dad.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Oops forgot to say that out of all the people I mention, I dont know anyone who will use the video calling, but I suppose this could be a different story in 2 years or so, we will see.
Im now too old to tell if teenagers loving video calling is a certainty or presumption that may not have legs.
Im far more likely to record a moment in video and share it in not quite realtime than do live video, and whilst I was interested in what people were doing with live video from mobile devices over the web via the various websites that popped up (justin.tv etc), I didnt see too many early signs that such stuff would become broadly and deeply meaningful in most peoples lives.
Im now too old to tell if teenagers loving video calling is a certainty or presumption that may not have legs.
Im far more likely to record a moment in video and share it in not quite realtime than do live video, and whilst I was interested in what people were doing with live video from mobile devices over the web via the various websites that popped up (justin.tv etc), I didnt see too many early signs that such stuff would become broadly and deeply meaningful in most peoples lives.
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hiraethified
Liek I said, different circles. A lot of people I know can't afford to splash out on expensive gadgetry.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Couple of reasons for that.
People complaining about it not having front camera just because they were used to other similar devices having one, even if they didnt use it.
People just looking for something in general to moan about, or to moan at Apple specifically for all manner of different reasons.
Words of complaint showing up more strongly on the radar than the non-words people who dont care, creating the general impression that people are changing stance. Ive never planned to use a front-facing camera on phone or ipad so I probably didnt moan about its omission in the past, I may have been surprised if I thought there was demand for it from others and Apple didnt deliver, but I never cared myself. video chat is one of the very few technological developments Ive seen in recent decades that Ive been deeply unsure about, almost everything else like downloading music & video, social networking etc seemed like a safe bet. Even my doubts about tablet viability didnt used to exist, it was only after wasting money on Microsofts failed efforts that I even started to question whether the form would go mainstream one day.
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hiraethified
Safari 5 has just been released:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/apple-release-safari-5/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/apple-release-safari-5/
elbows
Well-Known Member
Oh good, looks like there are some aspects of this which are of great interest to me. Looks like the press-release has come before the actual availability though, Im still getting Safari 4 on Apples website right now.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Doesn't appear to be available yet. I'll believe it when I see it that it's faster than Chrome (which still has amazing speed compared to other browsers...).
I'm generally always in the dev bit of a company. At [huge oil co] it was 50% iPhones on our team. Probably something similar where am I now, but being a bit more unconventional dev there's a smattering of Android too.
Amongst mates (some devs, many not), it's about 90% iPhones.
Perfect timing... just out of contract, and I can tolerate another stint with O2, so should be fairly cheap.
Display is biiig attraction. I love high resolution (typing from a full HD laptop
).
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Work had some stuff done recently (new offices etc), two of the builders had iPhones. Says it all really...
Exactly the sort of people who are completely uninterested in philosophical arguments about open source [blah] I can install shell [bored] and recompile the operating system [uh?] not that I have done but I could if I wanted to [please stop talking].
Normal people, basically.
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