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editor said:
That's a really rubbish idea. WTF would I want to drag two phones and two chargers across to the US for?

Up to you, but the last time I was in the US I took an old nokia to make call on a local SIM card, and my Treo was used as a GPS unit... IMO taking a spare is usually a good idea incase the other breaks. And with the Treo, it#s nice to have a smaller phone when going out and about...

Its also easier to localised chargers, etc, for Nokias... :D

:D
 
Marius said:
I also hate the fact i can't swap out a low battery for a fresh one as the case is sealed.
That's a pretty enormous issue for me - if I'm going away for a long weekend, I just pack my spare battery and I don't have to worry about chargers/finding a power point etc.
 
jæd said:
. IMO taking a spare is usually a good idea incase the other breaks.
You take spare phone out in case your main one breaks?

Blimey. Belt and buckles or what?!

How many times has it happened to you then? I've never broken a phone in my life.
 
editor said:
You take spare phone out in case your main one breaks?

Blimey. Belt and buckles or what?!

How many times has it happened to you then? I've never broken a phone in my life.

Zero times. But I don't want to have spend time scrabbling around for a replacement if I do... And my old Noka + charger doesn't take any room in suitcase... Most of the time my Treo stays in the hotel room safe, unless its likely I'm going to need it...
 
You must all be very be very carfull with you phones. I've killed my last 4. Last two nokias with mositure damage apparently, never submerged them, just being a wet atmosphere like my pocket I think. Other two the screens died, one blatently my fault (dropped), the other was a motorola with a large touchscreen, just took it out my my pocket one day to find it black. Normally they die around the 10 month mark.

That said there is a good market on ebay for damaged recent smartphones, never got less the £30 for a broken handset, best was £55 for the A1000.
 
Global_Stoner said:
You must all be very be very carfull with you phones. I've killed my last 4. Last two nokias with mositure damage apparently, never submerged them, just being a wet atmosphere like my pocket I think. Other two the screens died, one blatently my fault (dropped), the other was a motorola with a large touchscreen, just took it out my my pocket one day to find it black. Normally they die around the 10 month mark.

That said there is a good market on ebay for damaged recent smartphones, never got less the £30 for a broken handset, best was £55 for the A1000.

Thats coz they are good and cheap sources of working spares for shops. Way cheaper than off the manufacturer.
 
Yep. As predicted by many on these boards, Brits weren't won over as easily as their European and US counterparts. Hurrah for British indifference!

That said, it compares well to smartphone sales over here, not that many have been tearing up the market. The oft given away N95 is perhaps the only exception.
 
Global_Stoner said:
You must all be very be very carfull with you phones. I've killed my last 4. Last two nokias with mositure damage apparently, never submerged them, just being a wet atmosphere like my pocket I think.
I bash my phones to fuck, carry them everywhere, bung them in my bag and never use screen protectors or cases, and my 2 year old Treo's still growing strong.

The thing that used to piss me off most about phones was when the display filled up with tons of dust.
 
I've knackered loads of phones. My current SE K750i is made out of at least three phones - a mainboard from one, a case from another, a Bluetooth aerial from a third, and some firmware I downloaded. Well, they might fall to bits but you can replace all the components yourself.
 
tarannau said:
That said, it compares well to smartphone sales over here, not that many have been tearing up the market.
Nokia's sell in chuffing enormous crateloads and the Sony Ericsson k series has sold well in the UK too, just without all the iFuss.
 
Crispy said:
Simplicity over features, I'd say - too far in this case.

No, no, the iTouch is great at what it does. The iPod has been great at what it does for ages and thats still essentially undimmed.

The iPhone, should have been release as a standalone 3g product for any network for not much more than the iTouch. I reckon that it would have got a lot of plaudits and a lot of users keen on the music/video/phone/web thing.

In its current formation, its a niche product and until they get rid of the restrictions, it will stay that way.

This all goes back to the DRM debate. Using an open format is what made the iPod so desirable in the 1st place, so there is an irony to their lack of sales based upon locked down hardware platform.
 
editor said:
I bash my phones to fuck, carry them everywhere, bung them in my bag and never use screen protectors or cases, and my 2 year old Treo's still growing strong.

The thing that used to piss me off most about phones was when the display filled up with tons of dust.


Worth knowing about, never used Palm, but they do seem to keep going. That said if I kill the E61 I'm not sure I'll get another smartphone, may just get something like the old nokia 5140 (rubber one) and look at something like an eee pc (or similar) for my mobile requirments.

Before when networks handed them out it seemed to make sense to play with the latest technology, but with discounts on sim only contracts, it doesnt make as much sense.
 
Sunray said:
This all goes back to the DRM debate. Using an open format is what made the iPod so desirable in the 1st place, so there is an irony to their lack of sales based upon locked down hardware platform.
Indeed.

DRM in music is toast - Amazon have just recently managed to convince the last of the big four, Sony, to drop theirs in order to sell via them. Why anyone would think it's a good idea now, I don't know. I always thought it was technical reasons, i.e. if you could write any old software, you'd find out it was because the device had shit capabilities, but I guess that remains to be seen.
 
Sunray said:
The iPhone, should have been release as a standalone 3g product for any network for not much more than the iTouch. I reckon that it would have got a lot of plaudits and a lot of users keen on the music/video/phone/web thing.

It would then not launch until June 2008 and probably be very expensive.

Sunray said:
This all goes back to the DRM debate. Using an open format is what made the iPod so desirable in the 1st place, so there is an irony to their lack of sales based upon locked down hardware platform.

You'd have minority of people whining that its too expensive and doesn't have xyz feature... :D
 
jæd said:
It would then not launch until June 2008 and probably be very expensive.



You'd have minority of people whining that its too expensive and doesn't have xyz feature... :D

It hardly any more expensive to build than the iTouch, thats been shown. Can't please all the people all the time, but you can have a go. The iPhone has had nothing but middling reviews, mainly down to the restrictions.

I actually look forward to the day when its entirely restriction free, i might actually consider it.
 
I'm guessing the reason why the iPhone wasn't first released as 3g is that EDGE makes it accessible to more people. There isn't as much 3G coverage about. Going for the biggest market possible first.
 
editor said:
What's there to smirk about?

:confused:

I bought a smartphone so I'd have less stuff to drag around, not more.

I was at the office so couldn't roll on the floor loling at your over the top rant about something so small and lightweight as a phone charger. :D:D
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I was at the office so couldn't roll on the floor loling at your over the top rant about something so small and lightweight as a phone charger. :D:D

My old nokia + charger usually travel in a shoe in my suitcase... :D
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I was at the office so couldn't roll on the floor loling at your over the top rant about something so small and lightweight as a phone charger. :D:D
I've no idea how you can view me expressing my personal preference to not lug a second phone/charger around as a "rant," but if it's causing you to "smirk" and "roll on the floor loling" I suggest you seek medical attention promptly.

Not everyone is a geeky as you and wants to carry around two phones on a holiday, you know. Some of us already carry around 'nuff chargers and cables.
 
editor said:
I've no idea how you can view me expressing my personal preference to not lug a second phone/charger around as a "rant," but if it's causing you to "smirk" and "roll on the floor loling" I suggest you seek medical attention promptly.

Not everyone is a geeky as you and wants to carry around two phones on a holiday, you know. Some of us already carry around 'nuff chargers and cables.

Well you said drag I don't know about you but I only drag things that are heavy, hence my mirth at your rant. As for your geek 'dig' well I'll take it as a compliment coming from the likes of you. :cool:
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Well you said drag I don't know about you but I only drag things that are heavy, hence my mirth at your rant.
'Drag' doesn't always mean 'heavy', silly boy.

Any chance of you getting on topic any time soon, btw?
 
editor said:
'Drag' doesn't always mean 'heavy', silly boy.

Any chance of you getting on topic any time soon, btw?

Silly boy, you are Lock + Light and I claim my £5! :D

On topic, I already am. :cool:
 
Kid_Eternity said:
I hire a seperate boeing 747 to fly mine because of the sheer garguntuan weight of the things...:oops:

To be fair, my Treo charger is nearly 16 ft long, and 8 ft wide. (On topic...) :D
 
Errm, anyway. At the risk of going off topic... ;)

My predictions for tomorrow, iPhone announcements (Jobs' Keynote, Macworld Expo San Francisco):

- 16Gb iPhone (and 32Gb iPod Touch) fairly likely. This assumes Samsung 16Gb NAND chips have been shipping in volume.

- 1.1.3 iPhone Feature demo. Very likely. "Locate Me" faux GPS; plus some 'tick box' features: Not just multi-recipient SMS, but maybe Copy and Paste.

- No 3G... Broadcom chips not shipping in volume (I think). It's definitely coming, but no manufacturer will pre-announce something that will cannibalise existing sales.

And maybe some other more superfluous stuff (e.g. iTunes store related, but not iPhone specific.
 
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