Apple iPhone

[paolo]

Yay it looks like apple are going to save me £140.
Mid march the tarriffs are being upgraded.
Ill be able to switch from my £45 tariff to the £35 one and have the number of txts I need.

Me same. I don't quite use the mins on the (old) £45 rate, so the £35 tariff would suit me fine.

If you enquire/do it soon... please post back to say you got on. (My distrust for telcos makes me think there will be probs downgrading, but I hope not.)

 

[ska invita]

Just heard that UK Iphone users are going to get three times as much "free" calls and texts - the reason is NOT that the iphone isnt selling as well as expect, say o2

 

[rocketman]

Let's face it - making the tariffs more attractive does at least show it's worth complaining if the price ain't right. The call allowances before were pretty rubbish. Now they are better.

Right now we have
Web apps for iPhone - check, supported
Apps for iPhone - SDK this month
Better tariffs - check
Cheaper phone? Perhaps later this month, most likely later this year when the 3G model ships and the old version gets a discount.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Let's face it - making the tariffs more attractive does at least show it's worth complaining if the price ain't right. The call allowances before were pretty rubbish. Now they are better.

Right now we have
Web apps for iPhone - check, supported
Apps for iPhone - SDK this month
Better tariffs - check
Cheaper phone? Perhaps later this month, most likely later this year when the 3G model ships and the old version gets a discount.

Yep and the amusing irony is that some of this is helped by the iBacklash brigade who just love to tell Apple what they've done wrong!

 

[editor]

Yep and the amusing irony is that some of this is helped by the iBacklash brigade who just love to tell Apple what they've done wrong!

What on earth are you talking about?

I'd suggest that the price cuts were rather more driven by disappointing sales of the iPhone and increasing competition rather than some deep concern about the "iBacklash brigade", whatever the fuck they are.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

What on earth are you talking about?

I'd suggest that the price cuts were rather more driven by disappointing sales of the iPhone and increasing competition rather than some deep concern about the "iBacklash brigade", whatever the fuck they are.

I'm talking about the complaints generally on the net about the lack of features.

Apple must love it; its free focus grouping and all they have to do is pick the points that get the most noise and announce it to the faithful as new features and their core consumers are happy (and shareholders laughing).

The iBacklash brigade play an important role even if they are essentially working for Apple.

Huge irony from where I sit that.

 

[editor]

Apple must love it; its free focus grouping and all they have to do is pick the points that get the most noise and announce it to the faithful as new features and their core consumers are happy (and shareholders laughing).

I wouldn't say that people loudly pointing out the serious and obvious shortcomings of a phone are doing the manufacturers any favours myself.

Or do you really think that Apple were blissfully aware of some of the missing features and needed a 'free focus group' to learn that consumers would want more apps for their hugely expensive phones and that disappointing UK sales would need price cuts?

You must think Apple are idiots.

 

[jæd]

I'm talking about the complaints generally on the net about the lack of features.

Apple must love it; its free focus grouping and all they have to do is pick the points that get the most noise and announce it to the faithful as new features and their core consumers are happy (and shareholders laughing).

The iBacklash brigade play an important role even if they are essentially working for Apple.

Huge irony from where I sit that.

Unlikely. Firstly, Apple (as do many other companies, large or small) have a policy of not interacting on non-company user-forums. Secondly, geeks who sit around on discussion boards aren't the target market for this product... Finally, using properly conducted focus groups allows you a degree of comeback if you get it all wrong...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I wouldn't say that people loudly pointing out the serious and obvious shortcomings of a phone are doing the manufacturers any favours myself.

Or do you really think that Apple were blissfully aware of some of the missing features and needed a 'free focus group' to learn that consumers would want more apps for their hugely expensive phones and that disappointing UK sales would need price cuts?

You must think Apple are idiots.

Nope but I think the people that spend their time bitching endlessly or the faithful who lap up the Apple love at every opportunity are.

 

[editor]

Nope but I think the people that spend their time bitching endlessly or the faithful who lap up the Apple love at every opportunity are.

Not me. I think they're a very smart company with some of the best PR in the world.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

16GB iPhone to launch?

The iPhone is slowly edging toward something I'd consider buying...but 1.30pm has passed and nothing on the O2 site....

Blog sites are claiming that Apple is about to unleash the much-rumoured 16GB version of the iPhone in the UK today.

Apparently due to go on sale in all UK O2 stores nationwide from 1.30pm, the price tag for the new model is said to be £329.

It has been seen as only a matter of time before Apple upped the memory capacity of the iPhone, especially as the similarly built iPod touch is available as a 16GB model.

 

[editor]

£329 plus a compulsory expensive 18 month contract?! You must be made of money!

 

[jæd]

The iPhone is slowly edging toward something I'd consider buying...but 1.30pm has passed and nothing on the O2 site....

16 Gb iPhone + 32 Gb Touch on the US Apple Store. (But not on the UK store). They must be waiting for approval from the EU on these...

 

[jæd]

£329 plus a compulsory expensive 18 month contract?! You must be made of money!

*sigh* You can bu... Nope. Can't be arsed to go through this for the n-th time.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It's official: http://www.apple.com/iphone/

 

[Kid_Eternity]

£329 plus a compulsory expensive 18 month contract?! You must be made of money!

I said slowly edges, it's not there yet by a long shot (I want at least 32gbs, 3G, no more than £200, and a 12 month contract, figure that'll be about another 24 months before that happens)...

 

[editor]

*sigh* You can bu... Nope. Can't be arsed to go through this for the n-th time.

Then shut it. The only legal terms the iPhone is offered in the UK is as I've described. Users are of course free to risk their phones by committing to a lifetime of endless fiddling about with 'jailbreak' software for every firmware upgrade.

 

[editor]

I said slowly edges, it's not there yet by a long shot (I want at least 32gbs, 3G, no more than £200, and a 12 month contract, figure that'll be about another 24 months before that happens)...

It might come earlier than that, given the speed the mobile market works at, but I couldn't see me ever committing to an 18month contract with anyone.

 

[jæd]

Then shut it.

I'm guessing someone didn't get out of bed on the correct side today...?

 

[jæd]

It might come earlier than that, given the speed the mobile market works at, but I couldn't see me ever committing to an 18month contract with anyone.

Why not...? Unless it was for an IPhone you'd be able to use whichever phone you wanted...

 

[editor]

Why not...? Unless it was for an IPhone you'd be able to use whichever phone you wanted...

That doesn't even make sense. Phones are generally offered free/cheap with a contract, usually starting at 12 months. I've no idea what you're on about.

 

[jæd]

That doesn't even make sense. Phones are generally offered free/cheap with a contract, usually starting at 12 months. I've no idea what you're on about.

Yep, but you can upgrade the phone independently at any time... Monthly charges are usually lower for 18 month contracts...

 

[editor]

Yep, but you can upgrade the phone independently at any time... Monthly charges are usually lower for 18 month contracts...

If you want to pay double for a phone, yes.

 

[Crispy]

They're not lower for this phone though are they?

 

[jæd]

If you want to pay double for a phone, yes.

Again it depends on different deals, and where you get your phone from, etc (eg Ebay)... Plus it gives good leverage when you want a better deal from your phone company...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It might come earlier than that, given the speed the mobile market works at, but I couldn't see me ever committing to an 18month contract with anyone.

Sure, hence my criteria for owning one.

 

[editor]

Plus it gives good leverage when you want a better deal from your phone company...

Only after you've spent 18 months paying premium whack.

 

[Dask]

Why does this thread go on for 69 pages?

With the same for/against arguments being regurgitated again and again?

edit: This is exactly the what Apple want I guess. They probably held back the features just so that people would talk about it over and over again on message boards, blogs etc

 

[jæd]

Only after you've spent 18 months paying premium whack.

Depending on the deal + provider... And yes, I have looked into this previously... If you're not convinced then do the math yourself...

 

[jæd]

Why does this thread go on for 69 pages?

With the same for/against arguments being regurgitated again and again?

I pointed this out in post #5532...