Kid_Eternity
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I had a go on my friends one today - lots of fun - the sideways screen thing is very clever.
Only problems i can see are typing is tricky, particularly if you dont have dainty little fingers. Also, how do you get to do punctuation type things? (!"£$%(^(^)(£"$<>?><) - there must be a way, jsut couldnt find it.
Im still dubious about battery life - I had a similiar problem with my ipod - as did hundreds of others. Not just charge/use time, but I wonder what kind of lifespan it has. Especially as this a first generation thing, they usually throw a few 'bugs' in there to make you get the next one.
Its definitely set the standard. If ever i get a snazzy wifi device like this (in years to come) I think I would prefer one with a keyboard.
having said all that, and as someone very cynical towards apple for a number of reasons, I think this is a pretty dazzling toy. likethe guy in the article above says, its fun.
Only problems i can see are typing is tricky, particularly if you dont have dainty little fingers. Also, how do you get to do punctuation type things? (!"£$%(^(^)(£"$<>?><) - there must be a way, jsut couldnt find it.
Im still dubious about battery life - I had a similiar problem with my ipod - as did hundreds of others. Not just charge/use time, but I wonder what kind of lifespan it has. Especially as this a first generation thing, they usually throw a few 'bugs' in there to make you get the next one.
Its definitely set the standard. If ever i get a snazzy wifi device like this (in years to come) I think I would prefer one with a keyboard.
having said all that, and as someone very cynical towards apple for a number of reasons, I think this is a pretty dazzling toy. likethe guy in the article above says, its fun.
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If they stuck a keyboard on it and made the battery removable, I'd be very interested!
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
For me to actually consider getting one it'd have to
a) be 3G
b) have at least 32gb of storage
c) be free or very cheap (I aint paying nearly 300 quid for any fucking phone!) on a contract
When all the above happens if there's nothing like it on the market I'd probably get one...
a) be 3G
b) have at least 32gb of storage
c) be free or very cheap (I aint paying nearly 300 quid for any fucking phone!) on a contract
When all the above happens if there's nothing like it on the market I'd probably get one...
From the numerical keypad there's an extra keypad for punctuation...
Only up to the second generation. My last iPod Classic would last a good couple of days.
Nope. Bugs occur in the development process due to a number of factors but aren't introduced manually. Apple are also issuing firmware updates fairly frequently...
The predictive texting is very good. Basically, trust it - 9/10 it will select the right word even if you type it wrong, and all it takes is a touch if you want to use the word you've spelt - and that word is then added to the dictionary. Though an essay-writing tool it ain't.
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
That looks like one the old palm pdas...
Just need 3G for me to consider it now. They've got the multiple texting now.
Sunray
Its sunny somewhere.
No valium, calmed me down after an 'Impulse buying an iPhone' moment.
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I can live without 3G. Edge is fast enough for most out and about browsing needs and I care not about video calls or any of that.
All I really want now to make it my perfect phone is picture messaging and a txt forwarding option and the option to easily switch on and off graphics whilst browsing. Copy n paste option would be nice too.
I agree across the board with you there Marius.
I'd add - enabling video capture with the camera, the capacity to send video messages, and the ability to use the iPhone to connect your Mac to a 3G network, once they put 3G into the device
(which i reckon they'll do before launching it in Japan, where 3G is something else)
fuck apple
iphones, i found too my cost, are marketed in a very irrational way.
While i was in the states over xmas the family splashed out on the iphone for me dad. We thought with stirling against the dollar being so high we would get a deal with 100£ off.
Well we did, then, problems emerged when we arrived back on these shores. We logged onto the itunes website which then took us automatically to at&t and the tariff page. When we needed the monopoliser O2 for use of the iphone over here. Both apple and o2 told us that we had a US sim card and what was needed was a UK o2 sim. Sounds simple dunit? Is it fuck.....You Void the contract if you try an crack it open so we were fucked.
Okay, okay, i hear the techies saying 'we could of told you that'.... But i think its a bit shitty in the 'globalised commodity market' that the fuckers at apple had not accounted for this glitch, or if they did - they surely are a bunch of cynical entreprenuers!
In the end we sent the phone back across the pond and claimed back the hard earned dosh and not thought twice about gettin the shitty apple ripoff thing again...
iphones, i found too my cost, are marketed in a very irrational way.
While i was in the states over xmas the family splashed out on the iphone for me dad. We thought with stirling against the dollar being so high we would get a deal with 100£ off.
Well we did, then, problems emerged when we arrived back on these shores. We logged onto the itunes website which then took us automatically to at&t and the tariff page. When we needed the monopoliser O2 for use of the iphone over here. Both apple and o2 told us that we had a US sim card and what was needed was a UK o2 sim. Sounds simple dunit? Is it fuck.....You Void the contract if you try an crack it open so we were fucked.
Okay, okay, i hear the techies saying 'we could of told you that'.... But i think its a bit shitty in the 'globalised commodity market' that the fuckers at apple had not accounted for this glitch, or if they did - they surely are a bunch of cynical entreprenuers!
In the end we sent the phone back across the pond and claimed back the hard earned dosh and not thought twice about gettin the shitty apple ripoff thing again...
Eh, I feel bad for you, but what's irrational about the marketing?
I've not heard anything about Apple covering up its exclusive carrier arrangements, anything but in fact - they're entirely transparent. Would you honestly expect to buy a phone contract in the US and it to apply in the UK?
It's not really a glitch in any way. Restrictive perhaps, but buying a mobile phone from another country and expecting it work easily is a little daft imo.
I've not heard anything about Apple covering up its exclusive carrier arrangements, anything but in fact - they're entirely transparent. Would you honestly expect to buy a phone contract in the US and it to apply in the UK?
It's not really a glitch in any way. Restrictive perhaps, but buying a mobile phone from another country and expecting it work easily is a little daft imo.
You can replace the SIM card by sliding out the tray with a paper-clip...
I've asked sales reps in At&T and Apple stores in the US "if I buy an Iphone here, can I connect to the UK network". They've both said "No".
If you're buying a high price item abroad, *always* double check it will work locally...
Get you on the restrictive....eggsfeckinzackly...we were restricted in using it, period.
Yes, 'you'll say - didnt you know that would happen'. But think about it a mo...
Apple sells the ithing for more over here than over there. They let the highest bidder over here monopolise the contract, fit sims that are not universal, or no attempt is made for the sim to be universal, unlike other makes: nokia, sony ericson, etal....
They're making massive profits at our ignorant grasp of technology in the global marketplace and laugh all the way to the bad credit ridden banks...
Sunray
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Not its not. What other phone can you buy without a contract that you cant use just about everywhere in the room.
The SIM card the phone contains will work anywhere. Its just the phone that is locked...
They're making massive profits at our ignorant grasp of technology in the global marketplace and laugh all the way to the bad credit ridden banks...
Nope. A quick search on Google, as well as talking to At&T/Apple employees will tell you the restrictions...
Get you on the restrictive....eggsfeckinzackly...we were restricted in using it, period.
Yes, 'you'll say - didnt you know that would happen'. But think about it a mo...
Apple sells the ithing for more over here than over there. They let the highest bidder over here monopolise the contract, fit sims that are not universal, or no attempt is made for the sim to be universal, unlike other makes: nokia, sony ericson, etal....
They're making massive profits at our ignorant grasp of technology in the global marketplace and laugh all the way to the bad credit ridden banks...
Eh? I still don't get you really. You went to the US and bought an iphone on an 18 month AT&T contract and you were going to dump that contract and buy another one in the UK.
Forget about Apple being restictive, how did you think the conversion (& more) saving would make up for the fact that you were going to have to pay for two premium phone contracts at once?
i take your point...
but it doesnt negate 'we were ignorant to the fact' that you can't rig up a US iphone to 02 over here...
Where in their marketing to they tell you these little things? They dont, do they, and probbably wouldnt because thats not how corporations work innit?!
It is a seroius headache for little *consumers* of international goods like us, capitalism i'm loving it...
but it doesnt negate 'we were ignorant to the fact' that you can't rig up a US iphone to 02 over here...
Where in their marketing to they tell you these little things? They dont, do they, and probbably wouldnt because thats not how corporations work innit?!
It is a seroius headache for little *consumers* of international goods like us, capitalism i'm loving it...
Well it's fucking obvious isn't it. They did a big song and dance that AT&T were the exclusive carrier in the US and an equally obvious campaign tying the iphone to 02 (and the Craphone Whorehouse) in the UK. Plenty of press outcry too.
Really, it's not exactly rocket science to work out what 'exclusive' meant, nor that the lack of AT&T over here could present a problem.
Really, it's not exactly rocket science to work out what 'exclusive' meant, nor that the lack of AT&T over here could present a problem.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/questionsandanswers.htmlApple said:
And, as mentioned, it take two seconds to ask the sales rep...
Is this is a windup? Why would they specifically mention US-UK phone sim compatibility when there's mention of (expensive) exclusive contracts on both sides of the pond - surely you must have realised any saving on the initial cost of the ipod would be eaten up by having to run two consecutive contracts?
*sigh* You're confusing compatibility with being able to unlock it... And if you had unlocked the iPhone you could've of put any SIM card into it. A mate did this when the iPhone first came out in the US and uses it here...
If you don't want to research a purchase of over $200, you'll get the fruits of that research...
Gromit
International Man of Misery
You are moaning about the fact that a company is protecting their UK market.
I summerise your post as:
"We thought we could get one by on Apple by buying their product where it was cheaper and importing it and am gutted that they weren't dumb enough to not protect themselves from that"
If they agree a deal in the UK with a carrier and its possible to go abroad and get it £100s cheaper cause of exchange rates then what happens is that random opportunist companies import them in in container loads and undercut the official provider. Why be surprised that they don't want that to happen?
They are far from the only ones who do this either. You can't use UK games on a unchipped US import Xbox 360 for example.
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