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Yeah, but you have to be a bit of a geek to use it, right? Fiddly interface with loads of drop down menus?

The iphone isn't great for features, but it really shifts mobile UI into the next gear.
 
editor said:
Such a shame Sony didn't stick with the Palm OS.

My three year old Clie has the same size screen as the Touch, plus Bluetooth, Flash support, Wi Fi, card slot, video recording, voice recording, MP3 playback, full email client and an (average) browser, backed by thousands of Palm programs.

Yeah, I never liked Palm on a Mac, you see. The integration was always too annoying for me, so i stopped using the Palms i've had (now given away or sold). Horses for courses, though. Have you seen the screens on touch/iPhone? They really are very good. I've seen similar screens on other devices, but their clarity isn't always all that - not saying it's the same for you, you're clearly into your Palms, so the experience works for you. Fair enough.
 
editor said:
Such a shame Sony didn't stick with the Palm OS.

My three year old Clie has the same size screen as the Touch, plus Bluetooth, Flash support, Wi Fi, card slot, video recording, voice recording, MP3 playback, full email client and an (average) browser, backed by thousands of Palm programs.

You know I never really understood why they just dumped the line (a mate had one and it was very cool) instead of evolving it into a smartphone?
 
Looks like the Editor will be getting copy+paste...:

Apple has confirmed that it has plenty more upgrades to come for the Apple iPhone.

"All the complaints and feature requests we've had can be fixed and added by software upgrades", a spokesman for the company told Pocket-lint.

The news will come as a relief to new customers who bought the company's mobile phone over the weekend and may have been disappointed by some of its limitations.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/11240/12264/apple-iphone-features-not-finished.phtml
 
Sneaky tactic if they've analysed that right - keep adding functionality with the official updates, so that you're less inclined to hack it and risk bricking.
 
Crispy said:
Sneaky tactic if they've analysed that right - keep adding functionality with the official updates, so that you're less inclined to hack it and risk bricking.

It is also keeps it in the news for a while... :p
 
Apple has confirmed that it has plenty more upgrades to come for the Apple iPhone.

"All the complaints and feature requests we've had can be fixed and added by software upgrades"

Well stop being cynical cunts about it and just put them on to begin with FFS :mad:

I've used Mac's all my computer life - swear by them & love using them, but all this bollocks from Apple recently, frankly stinks.
 
Ended up ordering the Tytn II from Orange. Got a T-Mobile Flext 25-style tariff, 30Mb data during the day, and unlimited evening and weekend data for £33/month. Phone was only £40 too.
 
Pie 1 said:
Well stop being cynical cunts about it and just put them on to begin with FFS :mad:

I've used Mac's all my computer life - swear by them & love using them, but all this bollocks from Apple recently, frankly stinks.

Product flaws are not automatically a conspiracy.
 
paolo999 said:
Product flaws are not automatically a conspiracy.

I'm well aware of that.

I'm just saying that it seems Apple are playing a rather cynical game with consumers at the moment - not that they haven't in the past - just seems to have been notched up a level recently.
 
ok i've been using my iphone for a few days now and there seem to be a few glaring omissions from it

1) you cant send texts to multiple recipients!!!
2) no mms??? you can send emails but not picture messages
3) no video camera, these have been standard on phones for ages
4) you can't highlight text to delete it, only hold down the delete button
5) the mail programme has no spam filter, you have to do this at server end, and can't mark things as spam
6) the camera is only 2 mega pixels, surely this is really old technology

it's a beautiful thing, and mine being free (present from the boss) I don't really care too much, but it does seem odd. I guess most of these can be rectified with OS upgrades, but knowing apple they will only come as standard with iphone 2.0 released in 6months and demanding a new 18 month contract.
 
I had a play with it today. It's mighty purdy and the interface sure is damn funky but I don't really buy a phone to be able to flick through photos, zoom in and out of pictures and majestically glide up and down address lists.
 
More gripes, dunno if they've been highlighted already:

1. Can't synch at more than one location - I use my ipod and phone at home and at work, and can happily synch both at both locations. - the iPhone wants to wipe any data syched at either location, which frankly, is a pile of shit. Why shouldn't I be able to add music at work or at home? Or are they automatically treating all customers as potential thieves?

2. You can't just drag and drop music onto the iPhone like you can with an iPod. You've got to create a playlist which is then synched with the phone, hence taking a simple and effective way of moving things the way you want to into the realms of Windows Mobile. Pure stupidity.

3. My iPod remote "is not compatible with iPhone" the message says when I plug it in. Well, almost forgivable, until you think, hang on, not only is the headphone socket recessed so that you have to either use Apple's leaky headphones, or buy an adapter, but that the supplied "remote" - the tiny clicky thing on the iPhone's headphone cable will only pause or advance a track, there is no volume control so you have to get the bloody thing out of your pocket every time one track is louder than another.

And there's no iPhone remote available to my knowledge. Certainly not from Apple.

Of course there's other minor gripes, but they've been listed earlier. The one fantastic thing is web browsing.
 
1. This is very shit
2. Surely dragging and dropping onto a playlist is just as easy?
3. This is very shit
 
hang on a minute - how do you sync your ipod in two locations - each ipod is linked to one copy of itunes :confused:
 
Saw some posing tosser on the train with one tonight, he kept move pictures around and zooming in on them then looking up every so often to see if anyone was watching, then back to more wanky iPhone play, more looking up.

After he gave up, he put it away and pulled out a 5g iPod and proceed to hold it out in front of him then scroll through music (I assume).
 
Crispy said:
hang on a minute - how do you sync your ipod in two locations - each ipod is linked to one copy of itunes :confused:
I've always been able to. Though I do remember a period a couple of years ago when it was an issue, but apart from that it's always worked.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Saw some posing tosser on the train with one tonight, he kept move pictures around and zooming in on them then looking up every so often to see if anyone was watching, then back to more wanky iPhone play, more looking up.
I think the whole photo zoom/scrolling malarkey is impressive and nicely done, but without the ability to insert a memory card from a camera it's utterly redundant for me.
 
Yeah I do this, my 4G is able to sync at work, on this laptop, my old desktop and even a family members pc no problem.
 
editor said:
I think the whole photo zoom/scrolling malarkey is impressive and nicely done, but without the ability to insert a memory card from a camera it's utterly redundant for me.
Oh don't get me wrong I think it's very cool but I would never stand there 'showing it off' to complete strangers in some odd attempt to look cool..
 
If there was *any* other device that didn't have a slot for a memory card, of whatever kind, even a propriatery one like Sony, people would go mad!

Um. Still like t'internet andit'spretty :oops:
 
Crispy said:
hang on a minute - how do you sync your ipod in two locations - each ipod is linked to one copy of itunes :confused:


Mrs Pie's nano syncs fine on her imac, her work PC & my macbook. :confused:
 
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