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Structaural said:
i kind of feel sorry for the guy working there.... he's just a normal person who got a bit arsey due to stress
fuck the people who think he should be a servile minion of apple just there to provide a faceless smile
pinkmonkey
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paolo999 said:I felt much the same with all the the Halo coverage. Film Premiere style rollout? WTF?
But I do remember being 14 or so, and HAVING to be the first in line for the ZX Spectrum. Me and my mate ordered at the same time. He got serial #101 (precisely), but my order was fucked up for ages. It ended up being 33,000 odd... I was gutted.
So maybe there's an age factor with the "fan" thing... same happens with bands.
I caught a bus past the Apple store last week There was a huuge queue outside, going right round the corner into the square behind. Most of the people in the queue had iPod headphones on <I'd be so embarrassed I'd swop 'em for black ones, TBH>. Didn't see any 14 year olds.
A marketing mans dream, they were. Yup I've been in ridiculously long queues, to buy something before too, but only at sample sales for bargain clothes - were they about to get a bargain, I wonder
editor said:
Well... It all depend on what's in the SDK. If it allows third-party developers to run apps on the iPhone, then, based on the speed that un-official apps appeared, I'd expect apps to appear quite quickly.
Of course, it could be for "approved" 3rd-party developers only (as is hinted), a bit like the iPod. In that case you would get less apps, but I'm still thinking it would be the same type of time-scale. Apparently there's no much difference between OS X Desktop and OS X Mobile...
But, hey, lets wait until Feb and see what happens...?
editor said:
Apple not covered by consumer protection laws, then...?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It's out this Friday, woohoo or something...
Structaural
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Gromit
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Article on the beeb says don't bother buying an iPhone in Wales as O2's network coverage is pants. In fact if you leave any major city your phone is practically useless as a phone or web browser.
Also mentioned again that it doesn't have 3G so you might as well be back in the 80s browsing on your 486 with a 56k modem.
So all this wonderful hardware and no real ability to access speeds capeable of using it properly on the hoof. Nice one apple.
Also mentioned again that it doesn't have 3G so you might as well be back in the 80s browsing on your 486 with a 56k modem.
So all this wonderful hardware and no real ability to access speeds capeable of using it properly on the hoof. Nice one apple.
pinkmonkey said:I caught a bus past the Apple store last week There was a huuge queue outside, going right round the corner into the square behind. Most of the people in the queue had iPod headphones on <I'd be so embarrassed I'd swop 'em for black ones, TBH>. Didn't see any 14 year olds.
A marketing mans dream, they were. Yup I've been in ridiculously long queues, to buy something before too, but only at sample sales for bargain clothes - were they about to get a bargain, I wonder
That will have been the launch of Leopard, the new version of the OS. It's not a wholesale major upgrade but seems to have been well received, unlike Vista.
In the US at least, there's alot of 'switcher' sales going on right now - people buying Macs who were Windows users. I'm considering it myself. (although I'd have to keep at least one Windows machine at home because some coding stuff I want to do isn't possible on a Mac. So maybe I wouldn't be a 'real' switcher as such.)
pinkmonkey
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Marius said:
Isn't that because the mobile networks in the US just aren't set up for proper 3G with proper coverage yet? They do seem to be a year or two behind Europe, from my experience, when I've been over there.
I'm just about to upgrade my USB datacard to a new 7.2mbs one, so yes, it does seem bloody slow.
pinkmonkey
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paolo999 said:
That's so sad, queuing for an OS.
<--- embarrassement for geeks in queue.If I spray myself white would they queue round the block for me?
<probably not>
Kid_Eternity said:
Wooho definitely for the great UI, iPod built in.
Maybe maybe not woohoo for the browsing (EDGE is slowly lighting up on O2, but it's still very patchy.)
Definitely not woohoo on the price of thing.
I'm still looking forward to it, but the EDGE thing is a worry for me... the main place for my browsing is out of town.
Still: 14 days cooling off period by law, so I'll have those 2 weeks to put it through it's paces.
editor
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You're mad limiting yourself to o2 if out of town coverage is important to you - their EDGE coverage is very poor.paolo999 said:
Surely your decision to buy a phone should be based on your needs, the user interface, the apps and what the phone can deliver in terms of technology rather than just going for an "oooo! pretty!" gadget?
And 18 months sure is a long time to be tied to a network with bad coverage - especially when you're paying waaaaay over the odds...
Crispy said:
Sounds interesting - Although to be honest, for me, I'd just keep my old kit running in parallel for the time being.... make one of them a server, and another a client for coding stuff.
But good to know the intel macs have gone beyond the reboot-bodge thing.
dogmatique
merde alors
Remember my (much) earlier post when the boss asked me if he could have one and I said "umm, it's your company, surely you can have whatever you want (as long as I can have one)" and he said yes?
Well, for some strange reason o2 always holds off new handset releases for business customers until sometime after consumer release (the N95 wasn't supposed to be available for yonks, but then they relented and released it almost simultaniously).
I knew this, and was expecting the iphone to be released for business customers by the end of Nov.
Today I learn - prompted by boss to find out - that it won't be available to buisness customers until mid 2008.
Where's the logic in that? Business customers pay shitloads for their tariffs and should be valued customers.
Rubbish. New one'll be out by then. Pff.
Having said that though, the bossman had instantly assumed that it would replace his Blackberry. I had to carefully explain that it has *no* support for Exchange based push email a la Blackberry and is only really a consumer phone at the moment, and that porting his phone number over to a consumer tariff without email would be stoopid.
Bang goes my first week iPhone.
Gah.
Well, for some strange reason o2 always holds off new handset releases for business customers until sometime after consumer release (the N95 wasn't supposed to be available for yonks, but then they relented and released it almost simultaniously).
I knew this, and was expecting the iphone to be released for business customers by the end of Nov.
Today I learn - prompted by boss to find out - that it won't be available to buisness customers until mid 2008.
Where's the logic in that? Business customers pay shitloads for their tariffs and should be valued customers.
Rubbish. New one'll be out by then. Pff.
Having said that though, the bossman had instantly assumed that it would replace his Blackberry. I had to carefully explain that it has *no* support for Exchange based push email a la Blackberry and is only really a consumer phone at the moment, and that porting his phone number over to a consumer tariff without email would be stoopid.
Bang goes my first week iPhone.
Gah.
Sunray
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The edge coverage will be entirely down to the software in the cells base station if the Inquirer is to be believed, and O2 have been installing it, so it might well be better now than people imagine.
I like my iPod mini and have no desire for it to do more than it does already. I'm not enamoured by the move to 18 month contracts so will be buying a Sony Ericsson off ebay when I can be arsed.
I like my iPod mini and have no desire for it to do more than it does already. I'm not enamoured by the move to 18 month contracts so will be buying a Sony Ericsson off ebay when I can be arsed.
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