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UnderOpenSky
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whilst its only available on contract, why is this a problem?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Man, rarely has an interesting thread dovetailed into such technical levels of tedium...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Oops! Missed out a word, edited.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Crispy said:
Heh fair point.
A big part of iPhone revenue, for Apple, is the kickback from the telco. Although the apparent price is $399 (£279 here), the actual price is estimated at around $800 after you factor in the kickback.
However, 250,000 of the 1.4m iPhones sold far have not gone into contract... i.e. they are either being used unlocked, or are sitting in the (grey) supply chain.
So to protect the revenue, Apple are now trying dissuade purchases for resale - by limiting quantity per buyer and implementing a way of tracking where the sales go. The cash sale thing actually means: "No untraceable sale". Debit cards fine, for example, but Apple Gift Vouchers not accepted.
There is - it seems - one loophole. The newly available cash-chargeable credit cards. Get one, load it with cash, buy your iPhone(s). Assuming this works as some people claim, it's not only a way of circumventing Apple's beady eye, but also anyone else's who you don't fancy but have to use plastic to do the deal.
However, 250,000 of the 1.4m iPhones sold far have not gone into contract... i.e. they are either being used unlocked, or are sitting in the (grey) supply chain.
So to protect the revenue, Apple are now trying dissuade purchases for resale - by limiting quantity per buyer and implementing a way of tracking where the sales go. The cash sale thing actually means: "No untraceable sale". Debit cards fine, for example, but Apple Gift Vouchers not accepted.
There is - it seems - one loophole. The newly available cash-chargeable credit cards. Get one, load it with cash, buy your iPhone(s). Assuming this works as some people claim, it's not only a way of circumventing Apple's beady eye, but also anyone else's who you don't fancy but have to use plastic to do the deal.
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Pie 1 said:
fucken 'ell
, make sure you sell that receipt on ebay. What a dick.For those that are considering getting an iPhone...
O2 have cleared up the fuss around the 'unlimited' '200Mb.month' data. The fair use policy has been published: No set limit, just no tethering/streaming*/p2p - none of these things you can do with a stock iPhone anyway.
Arguably the real constraint will be lack of Edge availability.
And if you don't already know: The iPhone goes on sale next Friday, 6pm. Apple, O2 & Carphone Warehouse shops will be opening late. The latter have said they 'expect' to sell 10,000 that evening.
I'll be getting one on the way home from work, but most definitely not joining in the fanboy wankfest at the Regents Street Apple store. 
[* e2a: Obviously the You Tube app doesn't count against the policy]
O2 have cleared up the fuss around the 'unlimited' '200Mb.month' data. The fair use policy has been published: No set limit, just no tethering/streaming*/p2p - none of these things you can do with a stock iPhone anyway.
Arguably the real constraint will be lack of Edge availability.
And if you don't already know: The iPhone goes on sale next Friday, 6pm. Apple, O2 & Carphone Warehouse shops will be opening late. The latter have said they 'expect' to sell 10,000 that evening.
I'll be getting one on the way home from work, but most definitely not joining in the fanboy wankfest at the Regents Street Apple store.
[* e2a: Obviously the You Tube app doesn't count against the policy]
editor
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Oh come on! That's not the spirit!paolo999 said:
Surely you can provide some fanboy footage for the hardcore Mac community and leave the store screaming like an over-excited schoolgirl and waving your precious iiPhone about?
I'm sure there'll be a few pitifully real sad fucks hanging about to clap and cheer your 'achievement' like in the US launch. Think of the fame!
editor said:Oh come on! That's not the spirit!
Surely you can provide some fanboy footage for the hardcore Mac community and leave the store screaming like an over-excited schoolgirl and waving your precious iiPhone about?
I'm sure there'll be a few pitifully real sad fucks hanging about to clap and cheer your 'achievement' like in the US launch. Think of the fame!
Over on the macrumors forums, there's a thread just to discuss what shop you are going to etc. There's a fair few of them taking their laptops (Mac of course, what else?) so they can do the iPhone enablement on the spot. God help any of them that turns up without Leopard installed... oh the embarassment
But, digressing a little, the story I really liked was a guy in the US who used one of the macs in an Apple Store to hack the phone he'd just bought. Firewire cable running through his jacket and out of the sleeve... phone hacked and unlocked before he'd left the shop... class
UnderOpenSky
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cant belive they havnt made it 3g for the uk market.
Global_Stoner said:
That would have been nice, but we'll have to wait a bit for that. Jobs said that they had discounted 3G due to power issues (and indeed, many 3G phone users do have issues with battery life - e.g. N95).
It may all change sometime next year though - Broadcom have announced a low power 3G chip.
paolo999 said:
Over on the macrumors forums, there's a thread just to discuss what shop you are going to etc. There's a fair few of them taking their laptops (Mac of course, what else?) so they can do the iPhone enablement on the spot. God help any of them that turns up without Leopard installed... oh the embarassment
I once bumped into fan-boys waiting outside the UK Apple Store who where lining up on a Friday night in November for some kind of launch the next day... No-way could I join them with their "Look, I'm on my iSight webcam, using my iBook right outside the Store, and its freezing... OMG...! LOL...!" fan-boy-ism...
editor said:
That was the point I was trying to make to them (I was a little pissed). Their reply was that "It's the experience, man".
(a) You're in the middle of town, on a Friday night. There's a lot better "experiences" you can have than spending some money on a gadget thats probably going to be coming out half-baked and discounted a month later.
(b) You're in the middle of town flashing around expensive laptops. That's going to be an experience come 5.30am.
editor said:
I felt much the same with all the the Halo coverage. Film Premiere style rollout? WTF?
But I do remember being 14 or so, and HAVING to be the first in line for the ZX Spectrum. Me and my mate ordered at the same time. He got serial #101 (precisely), but my order was fucked up for ages. It ended up being 33,000 odd... I was gutted.
So maybe there's an age factor with the "fan" thing... same happens with bands.
The UK iPhone will launch with the 1.1.2 firmware... See http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/11/05/uk.iphone.to.have.112/ . Looks like they're spotted the latest exploit, expect much wailing from the fan-boys-apple-haterz...
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