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The mms complaint (common on the mac forums too) caught me by suprise. I have never sent any and i have only ever received one.

Does anyone here use mms? Is it expensive?
 
paolo999 said:
The mms complaint (common on the mac forums too) caught me by suprise. I have never sent any and i have only ever received one.

Does anyone here use mms? Is it expensive?
I use it all the time, dunno about cost coz I'm on flex-t with t-mobile, so they are just absorbed into my monthly allowance.
 
editor said:
Why's it faster than any otjher Wi-Fi enablerd phone? :confused:
Not sure if I'd be prepared to spend £800+ quid and commit to a 18 month contract foe an admittedly stylish phone that can't even send out a SMS to more than one person at a time! Or take a video. Or send a MMS. Or cut'n'paste. etc etc

The browsers on every other phone I've ever used is shit and slow and pretty much a waste of time.

There is one thing you forget, Apple has been quite open to suggestion to their iPod for fixing issues and new features. The pod cast wasn't their idea, yet it got included into their software and iTunes.

Just because it can't do it now does not mean that it will not be able to do these things in the future. Apples track record pretty much tells me that you will soon be able to do most if not all of the things you suggest.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
The inability to cut 'n' paste is what really confused me though, why on earth would such a fundamental feature not be implimented? :confused:

I can guarantee that its a time issue.
 
Sunray said:
Just because it can't do it now does not mean that it will not be able to do these things in the future. Apples track record pretty much tells me that you will soon be able to do most of all the things you suggest.
Sure. But it's been out five months already and none of the above have been fixed yet. I'm not sure it'll ever be able to do video either.

Have you ever bought a phone in the uncertain hope that basic essential functions might appear later? I haven't.
 
Sunray said:
There is one thing you forget, Apple has been quite open to suggestion to their iPod for fixing issues and new features. The pod cast wasn't their idea, yet it got included into their software and iTunes.

Just because it can't do it now does not mean that it will not be able to do these things in the future. Apples track record pretty much tells me that you will soon be able to do most if not all of the things you suggest.

To illustrate Sunray's point:

The 1.1.2 Touch firmware now allows entries to be added to the Calendar.
 
Sunray said:
The browsers on every other phone I've ever used is shit and slow and pretty much a waste of time.
The one in my Vario II (IE) works fine.


Just because it can't do it now does not mean that it will not be able to do these things in the future. Apples track record pretty much tells me that you will soon be able to do most if not all of the things you suggest.
Fuck that, I'm not buying anything that might do what I want it to at some unspecified future date, that's bonkers.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
Fuck that, I'm not buying anything that might do what I want it to at some unspecified future date, that's bonkers.
Yeah, but c'mon man - you can now actually add an event to the calendar!

It may have taken five long months of waiting to be able to accomplish this technically advanced act, but how cool is that?

You can add something. To your calendar. On your phone.

Now that's thinking differently alright!


:D
 
All of the absurd ommissions - not being able to send texts to multiple recipients, cut and paste etc have been noted from day one and could easily have been fixed with the first firmware update, and yet still haven't.

I find there's a certain arrogance from Apple where they'll decide to take their own good time to fix something that consumers are asking for.

It took well over a year for the simple task of gapless playback on the ipod to be resolved...
 
editor said:
Wow! Five months in and you can actually add an entry to the calendar?

Revolutionary!

It shows that Apple are actively developing for the Ipod/Touch. Dunno about you but I've never seen a manufacturer regularly update a phones firmware with the frequency Apple has...
 
dogmatique said:
All of the absurd ommissions - not being able to send texts to multiple recipients, cut and paste etc have been noted from day one and could easily have been fixed with the first firmware update, and yet still haven't.
But these are the basic thigns that should have been noted at the very first product design meeting, surely?
 
jæd said:
It shows that Apple are actively developing for the Ipod/Touch. Dunno about you but I've never seen a manufacturer regularly update a phones firmware with the frequency Apple has...
I've not seen a phone so comprehensivly lacking in basic features either.
 
jæd said:
It shows that Apple are actively developing for the Ipod/Touch. Dunno about you but I've never seen a manufacturer regularly update a phones firmware with the frequency Apple has...
I've never seen a manufacturer release a phone so devoid of basic features as Apple.
 
editor said:
Yeah, but c'mon man - you can now actually add an event to the calendar!

It may have taken five long months of waiting to be able to accomplish this technically advanced act, but how cool is that?

You can add something. To your calendar. On your phone.

Now that's thinking differently alright!


:D

The iPhone has had this capability for a while. I was using the Touch of an example of Apple listening to feedback.

But it comes down to this. If the iPhone doesn't meet your requirements then don't get it. If it does, then do. Its really up to each person whether they want to buy it or not...
 
jæd said:
The iPhone has had this capability for a while. I was using the Touch of an example of Apple listening to feedback.
C'mon! You don't need to 'listen to feedback' to know that people would want to do things as wildly radical as send out a text message to more than one person at a time, make a video, send a MMS message etc.
 
But as far as I can see the only requirement it will meet for anyone is that of "I must have the latest hyped gadget to impress people with".

I'm not a blanket apple hater by a long stretch (my next machine is going to be a Mac, and the only reason I don't own an ipod is that I'm not exactly lacking in music playback options), but the iphone is a deeply flawed, overpriced and overhyped heap of fail.
 
Crispy said:
Read carefully, he was talking about the ipod touch, not the phone.
Sorry. Here's what I've read abut the iPhone's calendar from the number one fanboy site. It still seems to be lacking the basics, no?

Too bad we still had major problems syncing appointments made on the iPhone back to our our desktop iCal calendar. It just wouldn't happen. Appointments we created on the iPhone refused to show up on the desktop, and about half the time during sync our iPhone-created appointments would actually get deleted entirely from the device..

Another issue we had with the calendar is its refusal to inherit color coding from desktop calendars, or in any way display in which calendar an appointment was made. If you're anything like us, you have a few calendars, like one for personal, work, birthdays, spouse, etc.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/03/iphone-review-part-3-apps-and-settings-camera-itunes-wrapup/
 
And am I the only one who sees a company releasing lots of updates for a product not as one who is listening to customers, but one who has failed to design a product right first time?
 
editor said:
Sorry. Here's what I've read abut the iPhone's calendar from the number one fanboy site. It still seems to be lacking the basics, no?
A 4 month old review, since when there have been several updates. I suspect the bugs are fixed.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
No MMS either, so you can use the camera to take a pic, and then, errrr, not send it to anyone :D

It's shite.

Don't give a shit about MMS - only used it once. Urgently need multiple-send SMS though. It's the only way I can organise a party - other than facebook.
 
beesonthewhatnow said:
But as far as I can see the only requirement it will meet for anyone is that of "I must have the latest hyped gadget to impress people with".

I'm not a blanket apple hater by a long stretch (my next machine is going to be a Mac, and the only reason I don't own an ipod is that I'm not exactly lacking in music playback options), but the iphone is a deeply flawed, overpriced and overhyped heap of fail.

The large numbers of iPhone's being sold would indicate you might be wrong...
 
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