Apple iPhone

[asbestos]

History repeats itself, but it's not always exactly the same.

Y by a Mac??? PC'z r Cheeper!!!! lol!!1!





*cut's off own head*

 

[jæd]

I've never understood why this is such a low point. I've never needed to be able to send an email/text one handed while on a bike etc!

I tend to use two hands (ie, two thumbs) to type emails on my Treo. You can do it with one hand, though. Its just easy with two...

 

[jæd]

Maybe I've been lucky, I dunno, but my windows desktop machine has never once crashed either.

What, never...? If you can do that magic with other o/s I'm sure a lot of companies would employ you...!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I tend to use two hands (ie, two thumbs) to type emails on my Treo. You can do it with one hand, though. Its just easy with two...

Sure...but the Ed always seems to make this point that if you can't type one handed its a big downpoint. Always been puzzled by that...

 

[Crispy]

What, never...? If you can do that magic with other o/s I'm sure a lot of companies would employ you...!

Well, I've had applications crash on my mac (mostly MS office) but the OSX has always been able to kill misbehaving processes and I haven't had a single genuine OS crash. Just saying that has jinxed it of course.

 

[Gromit]

What a load of emotive, unsupported bollocks.

Okay i was stiring a bit. Its more likely just to keep the manufacturing costs down on what is already going to be an expensive product.

Why bother to engineer a removable battery compartment when you will be wanting people to buy the next version of iPhone before the battery runs out?

Doesn't take into account consumers like me who don't swap their phones out merely because something with more toys comes along. Or people who buy second hand. Phones are seen too much as disposable fashion items to my mind.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

I love my iPhone, but....

no scientific calculator!!!! Whatever editor says about the Treo, the calculator was the best bit. The iPhone one is shit.....just a basic one....no logs or sines and no cool unit converter...

I'm also going to have to transfer all my contacts one v-card at a time (but this is palm's fault as it won't export multiple v-cards as far as I can see- it's an evil conspiracy to prevent you from migrating to other platforms, obviously)

 

[editor]

I've never needed to be able to send an email/text one handed while on a bike etc!

Really? I'm often sending out texts while holding a pint, standing in queues holding stuff etc etc

 

[editor]

Ach, it is the Cult of the Anti-Mac, is all.

Aw, those poor Apple users! So persecuted! So put upon. I don't know how some users manage to bravely battle on sometimes, I really don't.

 

[editor]

What, never...? If you can do that magic with other o/s I'm sure a lot of companies would employ you...!

To be honest, I really can't remember the last time my XP machine crashed, it's been that long.

I've had individual programs crash from time to time though, but unlike W95/W98, it very rarely takes the OS down with it.

 

[tarannau]

Okay i was stiring a bit. Its more likely just to keep the manufacturing costs down on what is already going to be an expensive product.

Why bother to engineer a removable battery compartment when you will be wanting people to buy the next version of iPhone before the battery runs out?

Doesn't take into account consumers like me who don't swap their phones out merely because something with more toys comes along. Or people who buy second hand. Phones are seen too much as disposable fashion items to my mind.

More unsupported cack. It's more likely, for better or worse, to maintain the smooth lines and aesthetics of an Ive product. That and the fact that to make it user accessible would have potentially involved internal compromises in a impressively small piece of kit.

I've got a friend who's still using his 1st generation chunky ipod.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

What, never...?

Nope, not once. I've had Cubase crash on me once, when I was intentionally being silly and seeing just how many reverb plugsins I could run before it fell over, but even that didn't affect the OS, I foced a shutdown of the application and the machine carried on just fine.

 

[jæd]

To be honest, I really can't remember the last time my XP machine crashed, it's been that long.

I've had individual programs crash from time to time though, but unlike W95/W98, it very rarely takes the OS down with it.

Well yes... These days most crashes (Xp or otherwise) are usually down to hardware failure. (Which is why I was surprised the poster had never had one...)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Well yes... These days most crashes (Xp or otherwise) are usually down to hardware failure. (Which is why I was surprised the poster had never had one...)

Never had a hardware failure either - I've had the machine for over 3 years, it gets lots of use (it pays the bills) and nothing has ever gone wrong

 

[rocketman]

Aw, those poor Apple users! So persecuted! So put upon. I don't know how some users manage to bravely battle on sometimes, I really don't.

Low wit.

 

[editor]

Low wit.

Slow twit.
Terwit terwooh.

 

[rocketman]

Slow twit.

Handbags at dawn, luvvie.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Really? I'm often sending out texts while holding a pint, standing in queues holding stuff etc etc

Yeah I just put the pint down. Queues? Can't think of how many times I've had to hold much while standing in line to buy cinema tickets...

 

[Dask]

Both my XP and OS X machines hardly ever crash, I think I can't remember the last time either of them went down.

I've had to force quit applications that had frozen on both of them, but the OS had never gone done.

The installation of XP I have is only 2 1/2 months old but my old 2000 system crashed about twice in 6 years.

I don't know why but in alot of respects 2000 felt/feels more solid to me.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Heh I remember a few years back when I'd just bought a laptop (powerful fucker it was at the time) and a mate bought a Mac laptop (same specs as mine with the exception of having 2 hours more on the battery life but having to pay £600 extra) he was showing it off to me. He, smugly, pointed out how unstable my XP machine would be next to his stable mac. I picked the machine up and started to have a look at applications to get a feel for how Macs do things and within five minutes it froze and crashed!

 

[editor]

Handbags at dawn, luvvie.

Gladrags are born.

 

[Dask]

There you go, just goes to show that their still only computers and subject to doing computery things like crashing.

 

[editor]

Yeah I just put the pint down.

Would have been a bit tricky at Glasto, that. Or half time at footie matches. Or in a packed pub. Or cycling my bike (along a Sustrans route, safety fans!).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Would have been a bit tricky at Glasto, that. Or half time at footie matches. Or in a packed pub. Or cycling my bike (along a Sustrans route, safety fans!).

Or the other one I use is "Hold this for a sec"...but I guess I don't get quite the same level of must answer texts/emails while I'm out having fun.

 

[jæd]

IPhone pricing & availability is here : http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/07/06/amazon.uk.lists.iphone/

Dec 1st @ £329 ($662) for 8Gb...

 

[Crispy]

Sounds like that's inc. VAT, as £329 divided by 1.175 (VAT = 17.5%) is a nice round £280

 

[editor]

Sounds like that's inc. VAT, as £329 divided by 1.175 (VAT = 17.5%) is a nice round £280

Well it does say, "the 8GB version has been listed at £329 ($662) that may include the country's VAT tax"

I think that £330's a bit rich for me for a phone. Even a Treo!

 

[Crispy]

Just an informed guess on my part there.
And yes, that's a lot for a phone. An 8GB iPod nano is £130 from Amazon (£170 direct from Apple) so you're paying at most £200 extra for the phone and other functions.

 

[jæd]

Just an informed guess on my part there.
And yes, that's a lot for a phone. An 8GB iPod nano is £130 from Amazon (£170 direct from Apple) so you're paying at most £200 extra for the phone and other functions.

Give it about 6 months and you'll probably have them free on contract...!

 

[editor]

Just an informed guess on my part there.
And yes, that's a lot for a phone. An 8GB iPod nano is £130 from Amazon (£170 direct from Apple) so you're paying at most £200 extra for the phone and other functions.

Thing is, if I had a phone that costs that much, I'd be really wary of taking it with me all the time, which kind of defeats the whole point of having a good phone in the first place.