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rocketman said:
Kid_Eternity
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ade said:
How about two posts above yours?
Crispy
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I've used it and it's ok. Still feels like any windows, icons, menus and pointer UI from the last 20 years though.mauvais said:
http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/iphone-review.ars/14
there's an interesting page form the Ars Technica iphone review:
stdPikachu
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ruffneck23 said:ah but its all open source , so someone will soon change all that
Is it? I thought most of the protocols for the iPhone were closed, else I would have expected it to work with Linux from launch day, which AFAICT hasn't happened. I haven't been following it too closely though, as the idea of switching networks just to get a new phone seems ridiculous to me.
Crispy said:
If it wasn't such a hassle, I'd recommend you install some apps like Kontact and Amarok to see, IMHO, open source software with really good interfaces, at least as far as I'm concerned. All of those apps coded in some basement tend to have shitty interfaces, whilst large projects like KDE and Gnome have very strict interface guidelines which goes some way to meet up with Apple's top-down design philosophy.
Disclaimer: although I love the OSX desktop, I'm of the opinion that alot of Apple software has clunky interfaces. I can't stand itunes for example, as I just can't figure out how it's supposed to work.
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stdPikachu said:Is it? I thought most of the protocols for the iPhone were closed, else I would have expected it to work with Linux from launch day, which AFAICT hasn't happened. I haven't been following it too closely though, as the idea of switching networks just to get a new phone seems ridiculous to me.[q/uote]
He was talking about the linuxphone thingy
I'll have to walk you through it someday. The only thing that's not great is sometimes it's not obvious what playlist/selection is currently being played. It's not the disconnect from the filesystem that confuses you is it?
ruffneck23
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its not an i-phone...
here is a much better link , i think the last one was a bit older
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-base-02-screenshots.html
id rather one of these just for the affordable built in gprs
here is a much better link , i think the last one was a bit older
http://www.openmoko.com/products-neo-base-02-screenshots.html
id rather one of these just for the affordable built in gprs
Kid_Eternity
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ade said:That was a link, that's cheating. DO'H
All is fair in love and u75 posting.
untethered
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stdPikachu said:
Amarok has an atrocious interface.
The menu with the player controls is called "Engage", the tab with the track/artist info is called "Context" and there's no keyboard shortcut for play/pause.
I quit the KDE desktop after about five years for GNOME. I was sick of the bugs and the option-frenzy.
The default GNOME desktop for Ubuntu is pretty good.
The point about open source isn't whether a "spoddy bloke" will design a tawdry interface for it; it's whether someone with a clue has the freedom to make it good.
As an ex-Mac user, Apple aren't above some dodgy UI decisions, too. OSX dock, anyone?
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I quite like the dock, although I wish it had a built in pop-up for Applications. I right click an Alias which I've stuck next to the trash, but it's not ideal.
The 'stacks' in Leopard might help out there.
Other bad apple UI things:
Icons in mail.app are all in little buttons, completely unlike all the other buttons with clear colour snd outlines. I read about this somewhere else and it always bugs me.
Clicking the + in itunes shrinks the window. Wha?
The 'stacks' in Leopard might help out there.
Other bad apple UI things:
Icons in mail.app are all in little buttons, completely unlike all the other buttons with clear colour snd outlines. I read about this somewhere else and it always bugs me.
Clicking the + in itunes shrinks the window. Wha?
I don't know, I've kind of warmed to the Dock. It works better when you've got a larger monitor - be interesting to see how the improvements in Leopard work out.
Besides Vista now seems to boast a compromised version of the same kind of dock, along with the illogical 'start' bar as well.
Besides Vista now seems to boast a compromised version of the same kind of dock, along with the illogical 'start' bar as well.
untethered
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The dock is based on a false premise: applications start instantly.
If this were true, the dock would be fine. There would even be no need for the little triangle marker to show which applications are actually launched.
As it is, starting an application has a time delay and a cost and a UI element that pretends that it doesn't is pretty poor.
Show me my launched apps in one place and unlaunched apps somewhere else. Make the distinction blindingly obvious.
If this were true, the dock would be fine. There would even be no need for the little triangle marker to show which applications are actually launched.
As it is, starting an application has a time delay and a cost and a UI element that pretends that it doesn't is pretty poor.
Show me my launched apps in one place and unlaunched apps somewhere else. Make the distinction blindingly obvious.
stdPikachu
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Crispy said:
Nah, the disconnect from the filesystem is fine (Amarok does a similar thing in the library browser), my main gripes are that I can't figure out how to, e.g., drag a bunch of files into a playlist and have them play. The playlist seems to contain everything on your collection and you can only filter by artist or whatever. How do you say I want to play the rest of this album, and then play the rest of the playlist randomly? In short, I just don't think I get it.
untethered said:
Granted, this is just silly, and proves that too much Star Trek softens the brain. Although I don't think "File" made much sense for that menu either.
untethered said:
TBH, I think the context tab makes sense because it's contextual information about the file/stream being played, and then more contextual information about stuff associated with the file/stream being played. I can't really think of a better way to describe that succinctly.
There's definitely a play/pause shortcut somewhere (although I did set mine up manually WRT the multimedia keyboard).
untethered said:
Much like yourself and KDE I imagine, I find using Gnome like root canal work without anaesthetic
Anyway, I'm drifting off topic. Does anyone know if the iPhone will be usable as a 3G/GPRS modem in the EU? IIRC this functionality isn't available in the US version, but surely that's just a software limitation, no?
editor said:
You can turn the animation off or hide the entire dock if you choose - that's always been an option.
The animated nonsense may be a gimmick, but it's alright for a more casual user like me - and, sadly or not, MicroShaft seem intent on adding even more useless animation fripperies throughout Vista.
I don't get the Dock's inconsistent if it doesn't open the applications immediately theory either - it's just a representation of your most used applications, not proof that they're all up and running.
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First thing I did was turn the dock animation off. If you use the Quicklaunch icons in Windows (I do) then the dock is a simple extension of that. And exposé is a much nicer way of switching between open windows - one button to see all open windows, another to see all open windows for the current app. I really miss it in windows.
I didn't realise it set bars...! Its a powerful IDE but using its many perspectives and windows and etc isn't veru obvious sometimes...editor said:
Same reason why you feel the reason to put a slightly misleading description of the dock I guess, shorn of the information that the 'toytown' animation' was always easily turned off.
I use Windows at work evey day FWIW. The pop(s) I have at that OS are largely based on the the sinking feeling at my looming migration to Vista (currently half on XP) and its derivative and yet more gimmicky use of animation and transparency.
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