Apple iPhone

[editor]

No 2-way calendar sync though - I have to have seperate google and home calendars, and they can only be edited in their respective sources.

That's a *major* deal-breaking omission, even for version 1, just like the inability to send off SMS messages to multiple recipients.

 

[Crispy]

That's a *major* deal-breaking omission, even for version 1, just like the inability to send off SMS messages to multiple recipients.

I'm talking about my home iCal and Google Calendars here - bit OT

The iphone syncs its calendars just fine.

 

[editor]

Here's an interesting article which explains why Apple haven't gone the 3G route (size/battery issues) and why a 3G iPhone looks a bit unlikely at the moment.
http://anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3036

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yeah a few blogs/podcasts have mentioned the battery thing...

 

[Sunray]

Here's an interesting article which explains why Apple haven't gone the 3G route (size/battery issues) and why a 3G iPhone looks a bit unlikely at the moment.
http://anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3036

Its a very poor argument, just because at the time something does not meet your design criteria, does not mean it won't before you get to the manufacturing stage.

What a shitty 3G phone to use to compare. The SE Walkman phone is 3G and thats tiny with a decent battery life. I would say that it had about the same the time to market as the iPhone.

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm waiting for the iToast and iDoTheWashingForYou and the iInappropriateCapitalisation add-ons...

 

[dogmatique]

The iPhone is a piece of shit and so is your face

 

[editor]

The iPhone is a piece of shit and so is your face

The Nokia E70 not only plays mp3s, video, has a full browser and Wi-Fi, IMAP and POP3 email, and Google Maps, but you can even run terminal software to telnet or SSH into remote servers. What that means in non-geek is that my phone is invincible. I can literally do anything. I can reboot my web server if I want, and sometimes I do just because I can:

Fantastic!

 

[WWWeed]

The iPhone is a piece of shit and so is your face

I have to say that site did make me chuckle, espesually this bit:

When the iPhone was first announced, CEO Steve Jobs spewed enough BS to cover a football field full of babies 3 feet deep in bullshit, which sounds cool because he could have potentially murdered a football field full of babies, but he passed on this opportunity by introducing the phone instead.

 

[editor]

The phone's apparently been hacked so it'll now work on any network.
I don't think AT&T will be too chuffed but it'll send cash tills ringing for Apple.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/24/iphone-unlocked-atandt-loses-iphone-exclusivity-august-24-2007/

 

[Rikbikboo]

we have just gotten our hands on an iphone. some of the things it does are sweeeet. google earth on it is awsome . zooming in and out using two fingers. and now some smart ass teenager has just succeeded in unlocking the iphone http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=52c_1188010946

so i shall be unlocking mine in a few days and using it.

sweet

and here is a site offering free unlocking to the 1st few ppl that contact them

 

[Kid_Eternity]

European iPhones Coming. Rocking the 16GB 3G Specs?

It's gonna be 3g according to this newish and rather good Apple rumour site:

MacBidouille, an excellent French-language Macintosh site, has posted what they say is a leaked advertisement for the Tmobile iPhone in Germany. Of note, the specs indicate 3G speeds and a 16GB capacity. These specs are in line with our reports from August from our sources within Orange, the French national telecom. They also stated that the Germans and British would get the iPhones slightly before the French were ready to roll it out.


While this image could easily be a fake (they at one point call it an iPod in the advertisement), the specs are likely to be realistic as the next iteration of iPhone will likely match the iPodtouch's 16GB capacity. Additionally, with 3G phones all but ubiquitous in Europe, it would be an embarrassment for Apple to release a EDGE-only phone. The price point also make sense when one takes into account the Euro/Dollar exchange rate and the absurd VAT Tax rates that add close to 20% of the cost... There has still been no mention of possible GPS capability.

 

[editor]

we have just gotten our hands on an iphone. some of the things it does are sweeeet. google earth on it is awsome . zooming in and out using two fingers. and now some smart ass teenager has just succeeded in unlocking the ipho

That's all clever and smart and an' that, but realistically how often will you actually feel the need to zoom in and out of a map on your phone?

I mean, I've got GoogleMaps on my phone and I use it a fair bit, but only to see where I am. I can't imagine ever wanting to sit there zooming in and out on any small screen for too long.

 

[Rikbikboo]

actually i dont ed. but the mrs loves it for its music properties. she just wabnted to be a smart ass and have one. ffs she cant even put her sim card in it at the moment cos its still locked. 400 quid spunked on nothign really imho.

yeah its a nice gadget for liek 20 mins. personally ide rather spend the 400 on a new cpu or summat. told her that too.

oh and my sony erricson does everything her iphone does. AND its smaller

 

[editor]

actually i dont ed. but the mrs loves it for its music properties. she just wanted to be a smart ass and have one.

I'm not going to knock its music playing abilities - iPods make most other players look like clumsy, ill-designed clunk-fests - but punters are still paying a whole load of extra $$$ for some K3w1 eye candy of limited long-term usefulness.

Still, you pays yer money you takes yer choice etc etc*

(* not you personally, but people in general, that is)

 

[Xanadu]

That's all clever and smart and an' that, but realistically how often will you actually feel the need to zoom in and out of a map on your phone?

I mean, I've got GoogleMaps on my phone and I use it a fair bit, but only to see where I am. I can't imagine ever wanting to sit there zooming in and out on any small screen for too long.

I would kill for a phone with a decent map application. I'm rather lo-tech at the moment, carrying round a map of london wherever I go.

I hope whatever network the iphone is on has an unlimited data package.

 

[jæd]

I would kill for a phone with a decent map application. I'm rather lo-tech at the moment, carrying round a map of london wherever I go.

I hope whatever network the iphone is on has an unlimited data package.

What...? Like Google Maps...? Works very nicely on Palm...

 

[editor]

I would kill for a phone with a decent map application. I'm rather lo-tech at the moment, carrying round a map of london wherever I go.

You can get both a high quality and comprehensive A-Z road/tube/train/bus that can be stored on your Palm phone and the high tech wonder of GoogleMaps too. In fact, you can get them on most other mobile platforms too.

I can't see why being able to do cool squeezy finger motions will make the Google map application any quicker or any more effective in use.

 

[Xanadu]

You can get both a high quality and comprehensive A-Z road/tube/train/bus that can be stored on your Palm phone and the high tech wonder of GoogleMaps too. In fact, you can get them on most other mobile platforms too.

I can't see why being able to do cool squeezy finger motions will make the Google map application any quicker or any more effective in use.

You obviously haven't been watching the apple adverts!

You can do cool squeezy finger motions to effectively find where you want to go. And if you don't know where you want to go, let apple decide for you! There's probably a Starbucks nearby where you can pop into and buy some new music. While listening to cool new music and sipping some of the finest coffee that the U.S. has to offer, you might come across a new business idea to make you billions! Then you'll be able to buy every Mac product we sell, beautiful women will fall into your lap and your life will be complete. All thanks to iPhone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

O2 wins Apple iPhone deal - at a hefty price

With an Apple press conference taking place in London tomorrow, new details are emerging about which mobile operators have bagged the exclusive rights to offer the iPhone across the pond.

Although previous reports speculated the Cupertino-based company had succeeded in committing European carriers to hand over 10 percent of iPhone revenues derived from phone calls and data functions, The Guardian is now reporting that O2 has agreed to pay Apple a shocking 40 percent of voice and data revenues from iPhone customers, snatching the device away from Orange and T-Mobile in the UK – although elsewhere in Europe T-Mobile and Orange appear to have secured the rights to sell the iPhone.

Apple's negotiating techniques have been called into question in The Guardian’s report. Apparently, Steve Jobs played the four major European network operators against each other, signing exclusive deals for the British market with three of them only to extract the “money-losing” terms from O2 at the last minute.

Link

 

[editor]

You can do cool squeezy finger motions to effectively find where you want to go. And if you don't know where you want to go, let apple decide for you! There's probably a Starbucks nearby where you can pop into and buy some new music. While listening to cool new music and sipping some of the finest coffee that the U.S. has to offer, you might come across a new business idea to make you billions!

Sup. Buy. Repeat.

 

[Xanadu]

A little birdie told me that on T-mobile, if you get the web n walk tariff, you get free data on t-mobile networks around the world. If that's true, I might preemptively pass up on the iphone...

 

[editor]

A little birdie told me that on T-mobile, if you get the web n walk tariff, you get free data on t-mobile networks around the world.

Your birdie is twittering 100% bollocks sadly. It's £7.50 per Mb from the US (and boy do I know this).

 

[editor]

O2 iPhone pricing here: http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphonetariffs

£269 for the phone, cheapest tariff £35/month. Can't see the required length of the contract in there...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

O2 iPhone pricing here: http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphonetariffs

£269 for the phone, cheapest tariff £35/month. Can't see the required length of the contract in there...

That actually isn't too bad (was expecting around 300-350), probably be a 18 monther...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

November 9th according to this:

iPhone combines a revolutionary mobile phone, widescreen iPod, and breakthrough Internet device into one lightweight handheld device. And it’s coming to the Apple Online Store and Apple Retail Stores in the UK on November 9, 2007, with O2 as the only UK carrier partner.

Link

 

[fen_boy]

O2 iPhone pricing here: http://shop.o2.co.uk/promo/iphonetariffs

£269 for the phone, cheapest tariff £35/month. Can't see the required length of the contract in there...

it's 18 months - http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/18/live-from-apples-mum-is-no-longer-the-word-event-in-london/

e2a updated url

 

[editor]

That's well pricey for an 18 month/£35 deal. I'd never sign up for such a long time - you'd be kicking yourself when the new model comes out 9 months later.

You can get a free N95 from T Mobile for £45/month with a more generous data/calls deal.

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

£270 + £35 a month.. too expensive... I'd wait 6 months. I was considering O2 phone as it seems to be the only way to get standing tickets at the dome...

 

[editor]

£270 + £35 a month.. too expensive... I'd wait 6 months. I was considering O2 phone as it seems to be the only way to get standing tickets at the dome...

I see Apple have done the usual dollar exchange rip off deal too. The phone costs more here than it does in the US before the $100 rebate.