Apple iPhone

[Kid_Eternity]

£270 + £35 a month.. too expensive... I'd wait 6 months. I was considering O2 phone as it seems to be the only way to get standing tickets at the dome...

I'm wondering how far the price will drop given how much O2 are paying just to have this..?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I'm not surprised the 24 month contract didn't come to pass over here!

 

[untethered]

I'm wondering how far the price will drop given how much O2 are paying just to have this..?

I read somewhere they're making a loss on the deal. Can't remember where.

It seems likely.

 

[editor]

I'm wondering how far the price will drop given how much O2 are paying just to have this..?

Seeing as o2 were squeezed reeeeeal tight by Apple, I wouldn't expect big price cuts any time soon.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I read somewhere they're making a loss on the deal. Can't remember where.

It seems likely.

They're giving 40% of their revenue to Apple! Crazy stuff.

 

[editor]

I'm not surprised the 24 month contract didn't come to pass over here!

I've never signed anything more than 12 months. No phone is worth anything more than that.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Seeing as o2 were squeezed reeeeeal tight by Apple, I wouldn't expect big price cuts any time soon.

If ever. At least on this generation.

I'd like to know what the details of the deal are; is 02's deal only for this iPhone or a period of time (covering them for any updated ones). If it's the former Apple could fuck them over by just updating and allowing it to be sold on another network...

 

[editor]

I'd like to know what the details of the deal are; is 02's deal only for this iPhone or a period of time (covering them for any updated ones). If it's the former Apple could fuck them over by just updating and allowing it to be sold on another network...

I think Apple have already fucked them over by 'forgetting' to mention that they'd be releasing the new iTouch pod when they were negotiating over the iPhone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I think Apple have already fucked them over by 'forgetting' to mention that they'd be releasing the new iTouch pod when they were negotiating over the iPhone.

Not quite the same thing but yeah see your point (although only an idiot wouldn't have been able to see the touch was coming...).

 

[Xanadu]

So much for getting an iPhone!

Any mention of whether it's got 3G?

I can't imagine the iPhone will do particularly well over here with a pricing structure like that. Are there enough Apple fanboys in the UK to buy it?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

So much for getting an iPhone!

Any mention of whether it's got 3G?

I can't imagine the iPhone will do particularly well over here with a pricing structure like that. Are there enough Apple fanboys in the UK to buy it?

Not likely to be 3g, its that edge thing, that said doesn't 02 have pretty decent wifi coverage?

 

[editor]

Any mention of whether it's got 3G?

Nope. No 3G.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

"We've created an agreement for 7,500 WiFi spots in the UK

From the engadget linked before...

 

[YoursTruly]

Not likely to be 3g, its that edge thing, that said doesn't 02 have pretty decent wifi coverage?

On the BBC website it says that wifi is thrown in free....over 2000 hotspots.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

10:19 - Q: 7,000 hotspots in the UK... but are they free?

Matthew: "Cloud is the WiFi provider, and yes, it's free." Steve goes on to again tout the advantages of WiFi. Matthew nodding head vigorously, "It's a lot faster."

Cloud hotspots are in a number of coffee shops like Costa etc.

 

[editor]

You gotta love the question avoidance of the O2 bloke at the launch today:

Q: Were you aware that the iPod touch was coming out when you were negotiating the iPhone deal?

O2 bloke: "One of the great things about working with Apple is they are always moving forward."

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

I see Apple have done the usual dollar exchange rip off deal too. The phone costs more here than it does in the US before the $100 rebate.

Its also the pre-christmas rip-off. I'd rather have a proper iPod or a PSP than the touch. The iPhone appeals to me because of the phone element.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

You gotta love the question avoidance of the O2 bloke at the launch today:

Q: Were you aware that the iPod touch was coming out when you were negotiating the iPhone deal?

O2 bloke: "One of the great things about working with Apple is they are always moving forward."

Yeah just laughed at the that too...

10:42 - Q: Unlimited data packages: will those go to other contracts as well?

Matthew: "On 1st October we'll be rolling those out for all out customers."
Steve: "It's the future."

That's a good move, the main reason I left 02 (it was a very good network in terms of customer service and network coverage) was the shitty data deals...might go back when my contract is up.

 

[dogmatique]

One decent thing to note is that they're introducing new "unlimited" data tarrifs, which they're going to roll out to other non-iphone customers later in the year.

Personally, even as an o2 customer with enough clout to get a hefty discount, I'm hesitant to jump on this as the next generation of the phone can't be that far away - better camera, 3g, GPS?

ETA: Beat me to it!

 

[jæd]

One decent thing to note is that they're introducing new "unlimited" data tarrifs, which they're going to roll out to other non-iphone customers later in the year.

Matthew: "18 months contract. There is a limit: 1,400 internet pages per day would break the deal as part of fair usage agreement." Wait, what?

So its capped at 1.5 Mb a day...?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

So its capped at 1.5 Mb a day...?

I reckon they'll follow T Mobile's 'fair use' of a gig a month...

 

[Sunray]

O2 are mugs.

They can fuck right off if they think that I am going to go for that clearly bad deal. I shall wait till they are very cheap and don't have to come with an 18 month contract sitting unsold on the Carphone Warehouse shelf.

 

[Kanda]

I've been with O2 for about 8 years and my contract is up in November. I'll probably take the £55/month option and an iPhone to see what it's like as I won't move from O2 anyway, it'll be cheaper than the tariff I'm on at the moment. If it's a shit phone, I'll drop it on ebay or just buy a different phone.

 

[editor]

I've been with O2 for about 8 years and my contract is up in November. I'll probably take the £55/month option and an iPhone to see what it's like ....

You must be made of money!

 

[editor]

O2 are mugs.

They can fuck right off if they think that I am going to go for that clearly bad deal. I shall wait till they are very cheap and don't have to come with an 18 month contract sitting unsold on the Carphone Warehouse shelf.

Although the iPhone should still do pretty well, I fancy that the hefty pricing, sole network and compulsory 18 month contract is going to put a *lot* of people off.

I'll stick to my £20/month unlimited data deal with T Mobile and buy my next mobile, thanks.

 

[Xanadu]

I really really can't see this selling well!

 

[Kanda]

You must be made of money!

My current mobile bills are about £90/month, this contract would be cheaper for me anyhow.

 

[editor]

My current mobile bills are about £90/month, this contract would be cheaper for me anyhow.

Fucking hell. What does that deal give you? Foxy ladies to dial the numbers for you and free dinners?

 

[Sunray]

Although the iPhone should still do pretty well, I fancy that the hefty pricing, sole network and compulsory 18 month contract is going to put a *lot* of people off.

I'll stick to my £20/month unlimited data deal with T Mobile and buy my next mobile, thanks.

Given that I'd actually quite like one, if they cant persuade me then how about persuading Joe Public? The same public who got the very able K800i phone for free on a normal 12 month contract.

250 quid + expensive 18 month contract
free + cheap 12 month contract

What O2 always forget is that a lot of Joe Public ask people like me if its any good.

 

[Kanda]

Fucking hell. What does that deal give you? Foxy ladies to dial the numbers for you and free dinners?

I have a historic crappy business account, spoke to O2 this morning and they're happy to change me over to regular consumer account, clearly it doesn't give me much, hence the need to change