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AFAIK, this appears to be a part of Apple's Marketing strategy...editor said:
Mate, I write those phrases with every trace of irony and self-knowledge. Christ - these people used to be my target market for photography.
You forget that I work with poncey high-end creative professionals and brand men constantly. One of last bosses was uber-aesthetic creative Lewis Blackwell for a start.
It's PR flannel, but it's also the reality in a lot of cases.
Kid_Eternity
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Heh but that's the price you pay for living in south London.editor said:
I've walked about with all manner of pricey gadgets (smartphone, iPod, cameras) and not once felt threatened or had any problems. In fact the only time I've been approached was by people asking what it was (and on a few occasions small groups of teenagers would jokingly pose for a photograph if they saw me with a camera).
I really don't know what kind of Daily Mail terrified world you'd have to live in if you let some kind of theoratical street robbery put you off buying the gadget you want...
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Kanda said:Innit!!
Has nobody heard of insurance???
Heh very good point!
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And there's silly old me thinking that iPods and mobile phones were a recognised factor in the growth of street robberies!Kid_Eternity said:
Oh, and look! It's not the Daily Mail reporting it either - I must be living in a weird parallel Guardian/BBC "terrified world!"
I'm not put off buying a phone by the threat of muggings, but you'd be an absolute plonker to start braying on your shiny iPhone on a late night Peckham bus. That's like waving a wad of cash around.
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editor said:
Er I think you'd be slightly brave to stand alone at a bus stop at night in Peckham no matter how rich you looked!
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Kanda said:
I don't know who these people are really, I've never known anyone to get robbed for their phone. Also I wouldn't trust Iain Blair's blaming crime on people having visible iPods...
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You want to get out a bit more: iPod targeted robberies happened in the US too.Kid_Eternity said:
And: Robbers relish iPod craze
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/03/21/MNGRUOOVAA1.DTL
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Yeah I noted that, something I'm curious about, why is it everywhere but the UK that seems to have these 24 month contracts, how come we only have 18 monthers over here?
dogmatique
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Hmm. So the boss asks me when the iphones are coming out, I tell him, he asks if he can have one, I shrug and say, well, it's your company, you can have whatever you want, as long as I can have one too. He says yes.
Result!
Result!
I'm not certain an iPhone is such a good investment at this point. I can't help but predict a rev. 2 of the product, perhaps as soon as January, which may have something more to offer (3G?).
So I'll hold off, at least for a little while, unless it becomes essential for me to have one (there's actual reasons why it may, not aspirational ones).
So I'll hold off, at least for a little while, unless it becomes essential for me to have one (there's actual reasons why it may, not aspirational ones).
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Yeah, I'm kinda concerned about the fact that there'll be a new one out in 6 months, especially the old 3g question, but Jobs stated at the Regent St launch the other day that the reason they don't have 3g is the power usage. (Yeah, really?)
He also said that they weren't expecting improvements to 3g chips to be viable for inclusion until (probably) 3rd quarter next year.
Same would go for gps, possibly even longer.
So how come Blackberry manages this already with a decent battery life?
Looks like it'll be near on a year till it's all singing, all dancing. By which time, the boss'll want an upgrade!
I'm a little loathe to give up my Nokia N95 due to the lack of GPS on the iphone, as it has come in very useful on several occasions, but even that is very far from being perfect - despite a couple of firmware upgrades, it still takes between 5 and 10 minutes to get a GPS signal, which only makes it useful for longer car journeys. Navigating on foot quickly isn't an option.
Blackberry on the other hand, can find a signal in less than a minute. Wrong chip choice there from Nokia.
The real clincher with the iphone is the interface and the browser. I'm using web browsing more and more with the N95, and am really looking forward to using Safari on the iphone.
He also said that they weren't expecting improvements to 3g chips to be viable for inclusion until (probably) 3rd quarter next year.
Same would go for gps, possibly even longer.
So how come Blackberry manages this already with a decent battery life?
Looks like it'll be near on a year till it's all singing, all dancing. By which time, the boss'll want an upgrade!
I'm a little loathe to give up my Nokia N95 due to the lack of GPS on the iphone, as it has come in very useful on several occasions, but even that is very far from being perfect - despite a couple of firmware upgrades, it still takes between 5 and 10 minutes to get a GPS signal, which only makes it useful for longer car journeys. Navigating on foot quickly isn't an option.
Blackberry on the other hand, can find a signal in less than a minute. Wrong chip choice there from Nokia.
The real clincher with the iphone is the interface and the browser. I'm using web browsing more and more with the N95, and am really looking forward to using Safari on the iphone.
Yeah, Jobs said that, but I think he is dissembling. The solution used is really just because EDGE is more advanced in terms of deployment on the US market - also I suspect the decision may have been tactical, as mobile telcos are unlikely to offer unlimited data over their expensive 3G networks at this point - they still hope to recoup on auction costs, though clearly they have already reduced their expectations.
I'm convinced Jobs has something else he wants to say - could it be connected to WiMax?
I'm playing with an iPod touch today. i do like it. I was able to stand in the park near my house and check the news (as an experiment). I was able to moan at how shit YouTube content is. I was able to watch a film, listen to music - it was great, for something that's a fraction the size of my first mobile. It sure told me how good iPhone interface will be to use,
But I'm really annoyed at the lack of email in the touch. I can't see a decent reason for it - other than pointing people who want that facility at the iPhone, but with just £70 price difference (just?) I think Apple would be better to just focus on the killer app of iPhone - it's a phone. That should be enough to tempt people. Not having email on touch is plain silly.
You can read Gmail on the touch, using the browser, but sending email is almost impossible.
Also - touch really should ship with a remote control - or at least support a third party one, but it does not.
It's nice, it works, it's very more-ish feeling, but without email it just isn't essential: other iPods fulfill their focused funtion - shuffle you take anywhere and don't worry too much, nano does it all, you can take it anywhere and not worry, iPhone does loads, and classic is the choice if you like to carry lots of content, maybe for a trip to Oz, or something.
But touch - while great - doesn't focus on its meaning strongly enough, email would change that, and maximise its appeal - it would be the iPod to have if you did not want an iPhone.
Returning to iPhone, I still think G2 is the way forward.
I'm convinced Jobs has something else he wants to say - could it be connected to WiMax?
I'm playing with an iPod touch today. i do like it. I was able to stand in the park near my house and check the news (as an experiment). I was able to moan at how shit YouTube content is. I was able to watch a film, listen to music - it was great, for something that's a fraction the size of my first mobile. It sure told me how good iPhone interface will be to use,
But I'm really annoyed at the lack of email in the touch. I can't see a decent reason for it - other than pointing people who want that facility at the iPhone, but with just £70 price difference (just?) I think Apple would be better to just focus on the killer app of iPhone - it's a phone. That should be enough to tempt people. Not having email on touch is plain silly.
You can read Gmail on the touch, using the browser, but sending email is almost impossible.
Also - touch really should ship with a remote control - or at least support a third party one, but it does not.
It's nice, it works, it's very more-ish feeling, but without email it just isn't essential: other iPods fulfill their focused funtion - shuffle you take anywhere and don't worry too much, nano does it all, you can take it anywhere and not worry, iPhone does loads, and classic is the choice if you like to carry lots of content, maybe for a trip to Oz, or something.
But touch - while great - doesn't focus on its meaning strongly enough, email would change that, and maximise its appeal - it would be the iPod to have if you did not want an iPhone.
Returning to iPhone, I still think G2 is the way forward.
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I get a 1gb a month for a fiver on three, which for a for mobile use near enough unlimited. Still loving my Nokia E61, had a big touch screen Motorola A1000 which was cool, but dont think I'd get another smartphone without a qwerty keyboard.
Most of my posting on urban these days is done from it.
Most of my posting on urban these days is done from it.
dogmatique
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The itouch, whilst a great device is just a crippled iphone - there are so many bits that are just disabled though present to make people ramp up to the iphone.
You're right - there's no reason why email couldn't be there, they just want you to spend that bit more money and get an iphone.
If you're thinking of getting an itouch at the moment though, please wait a month or so - the manufacturers in China have been so pressured to get it in store that they've been skipping essential manufacturing steps that are time consuming, such as the anti-reflective coating the LCD display needs to stop black areas from showing up as almost negative, and hence really spoiling your experience.
You're right - there's no reason why email couldn't be there, they just want you to spend that bit more money and get an iphone.
If you're thinking of getting an itouch at the moment though, please wait a month or so - the manufacturers in China have been so pressured to get it in store that they've been skipping essential manufacturing steps that are time consuming, such as the anti-reflective coating the LCD display needs to stop black areas from showing up as almost negative, and hence really spoiling your experience.
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Global_Stoner said:I get a 1gb a month for a fiver on three, which for a for mobile use near enough unlimited. Still loving my Nokia E61, had a big touch screen Motorola A1000 which was cool, but dont think I'd get another smartphone without a qwerty keyboard.
Most of my posting on urban these days is done from it.
3 Have consistantly been the most forward thinking when it comes to data, but have been hampered by network coverage compared to the big mob telcos. How have you found your coverage outside big towns etc?
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rocketman said:
Yeah, it's been amusing to see o2 hurridly updating their network to accomodate a lesser format instead of the 3g access they paid extremley dearly for in the bidding rounds.
Who'd have guessed?
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