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editor said:
Your faith is Apple is touching. Only an idiot would declare "the smartphone war won for Apple" before they've even released the product.
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I find your lack of faith distuurbiiing...

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It's a year old now? Doing pretty well for a first entry into the market, looking more promising as it matures too.
 
editor said:
I've only skim-read the release so I could be wrong here, but I am correct in that distribution of third party apps can only go through Apple who take a nice fat 30% cut for themselves?
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Even without the iFund, Apple's development environment offers plenty of incentives. With its new App Store, Apple will handle the hum-drum part of software sales like credit card processing, hosting and marketing, while giving a developer 70% of the take. That is potentially significant if you figure the economies of scale of the platform.

Let's say you're a small developer and you build an application -- maybe it's something that turns your iPhone into an efax machine -- that sells for $10. If your little app attracts just 1/10 of 1% of the 10 million iPhone owners that Apple expects to have by year's end you've got 10,000 customers. You're bringing in $7 for each sale, or $70,000 -- and that's not even including all those potential iPod touch customers. That's what I call motivation!
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editor said:
Why exactly? The Centro is Sprint's biggest seller.
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What's Palms market share [in the US]? Last I remember it wasn't anywhere near 26%.

You're faith in Palm is far more misguided than any 'faith' I have in the iPhone being a storming success.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
What's Palms market share [in the US]? Last I remember it wasn't anywhere near 26%. .
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So what? It's not all about cheering on the big-budget enormo-corporates as they wade in with their colossal wedge and crush the competition, you know.

Least, it's not for me.
 
Some one else thinks Apple has done good:

I have time tonight for only a quick note on Apple's iPhone software developer kit announcement. Overall, it is deeply impressive how many things Apple got right. We still need to see more details on terms and conditions, and a lot will depend on Apple's execution, but here are the problems they appear to have solved:

--Mobile applications are hard for users to find and install, so Apple is building the applications store into every device. Apps are installed automatically when you buy them, and you can also be notified of upgrades when they're available.

--Third party applications stores take far too much of a developer's revenue -- 60% or more. So the Apple store takes 30%. That's a bit high (20% would be better), but everyone else has been so greedy that Apple looks like a charity.

--Getting applications certified for use on mobiles is expensive and time-consuming, so Apple has streamlined the process dramatically. Developers pay $99 a year, and apparently get automatic certification of all their apps. We need to learn more about how the app approval process will work, but if it's not burdensome this service alone justifies Apple's 30% cut of revenue. Apple takes responsibility for ensuring that iPhones remain secure and do not abuse the network, something that no one else has been willing to do.

--Developers want to get access to the features of the phone, so Apple has exposed a very rich API set including access to the accelerometer and other special features of the iPhone. This is not a sandbox; it looks like it's access to pretty much the whole OS.

--And oh by the way, Kleiner Perkins is creating a $100 venture million fund for iPhone developers. Makes Google's $10m contest for Android developers look like a popgun.
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editor said:
So what? It's not all about cheering on the big-budget enormo-corporates as they wade in with their colossal wedge and crush the competition, you know.

Least, it's not for me.
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Ah yes the typical Ed tactic, make a point, when some one calls you on it pretend you're making another point...*yawns*.
 
There are lots of ways Apple can incorporate C&P. Here's just one of many ideas floating around the net:
 
editor said:
His mouth looks weirdly superimposed at the beginning and he keeps on gesturing for no reason when he's finished talking.
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Yep, they've edited existing Apple demo footage. Much cheaper than producing the whole thing yourself - someone just wanted to show off their proof of concept.
 
I would of said it's a very clever way of demonstrating something, if your a one man bedroom developer.
 
Dask said:
I would of said it's a very clever way of demonstrating something, if your a one man bedroom developer.
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Maybe I'm just missing the Mac thing here, but that video just looks plain weird. Why do you need to have a bloke in a black rollneck talking to the camera anyway? And it must taken a fair bit of effort to edit the video anyway.

Oh well.
 
editor said:
Maybe I'm just missing the Mac thing here, but that video just looks plain weird. Why do you need to have a bloke in a black rollneck talking to the camera anyway? And it must taken a fair bit of effort to edit the video anyway.

Oh well.
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It's a spoof video!!

blimey :rolleyes::p

The Mac store has loads of video demos of loads of things. He just ripped it and superimposed his mouth.
 
editor said:
But if you're not in on the joke, you don't know what it's spoofing and it's not explained to you in the first place...?

:rolleyes: :p
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Right, I've just got our accounts girl to watch that. She laughed, she got it. She knows fuck all about Macs... you're a bit more tech savvy I think, you write reviews and debate Macs all the time.

I think you're being grump ;) :D
 
Kanda said:
Right, I've just got our accounts girl to watch that. She laughed, she got it.
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Read back through the thread. I wasn't having a go at Apple or being 'grumpy' I just couldn't understand why the video was so weird looking. That's it! Nothing more.
 
Dask said:
What Mac thing? It's obviously just a parody of the official apple video.
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*bangs head.

Yes, but if you've never seen an official Apple video then it makes no sense, especially if it's not explained to you when you point out that it looks weird.

Jeez. What is it with some people today?

:rolleyes:
 
editor said:
*bangs head.

Yes, but if you've never seen an official Apple video then it makes no sense, especially if it's not explained to you when you point out that it looks weird.

Jeez. What is it with some people today?

:rolleyes:
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I bet if it was a palm video you would be gushing all over it. :)
 
skeen said:
It's the interwebs - if your point isn't 100% clear, someone will call you on it. ;) What else are we to argue about otherwise?
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Well, I've learnt my lesson now. Next time someone points me to an Apple related video where there's a bloke with a weird mouth talking out of sync, I should go, "Ho ho ho! What a wheeze!" and be in on the thigh-slapping iJoke.

I am now part of the iBorg. :)
Dask said:
I bet if it was a palm video you would be gushing all over it.
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Nothing to get excited about cut and paste in the Palm world. Had it for years, innit?
 
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