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Battery life is nearly criminal on this thing. I would hope to get more than 24hrs standby on light use, might consider taking it back if it doesn't improve.

I've bought a Li-Polymer battery charger to charge it up when it fails.
 
Ouch! If this is true Blackberry will be feeling the heat - and it would be a real triumph for the iPhone.

"ZDNet Australia certainly seems to think so. According to the site, Global Bank HSBC is considering ridding themselves of their reliance on the BlackBerry, opting instead to transition their workers to iPhones. If this goes through, it could result in a bulk order of up to 200,000 iPhone units which would most likely rank as the highest mass purchases of the handset to date."
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/13/hsbc-moving-to-iphone-dissolving-blackberry-allegiance/
 
Are they mad?

The battery life means all those people will be suddenly offline in the middle of the working day. 300hrs standby time is a load of bollox. I got 48hrs with some light use this week.
 
As much as i am a fan of the iPhone for personal use i don't think its a good idea for businesses. Not unless they are going to issue everyone with proporta emergency chargers as well.

Phone technology is moving faster than battery technology is able to cope with re higher energy demands.
 
Mine died unexpectedly today after a long phone call. Very annoying. Having to remember to carry the Proporta in my bag all the time will become arggghh.
 
Something not right about 2.0 - text editing. Mostly it's fine but from time to time it turns to glue. I've seen it in safari, mail and text message, so it seems like an OS thing. Anyone else seeing this? When I say glue, I mean one letter per second - down to 12 key typing rates.

Roll on 2.1

Well, I upgraded to 2.0.1 but it's happened again since, so no fix there. I think 2.0.x is a bit flakey, all things considered. Safari still bails from time to time.

Still holding off upgrading to the 3G... Battery life concerns.
 
Safari has bailed a few times on complex DHTML websites.

The maps application tends to be sluggish. Had some sluggishness from time to time, nothing I've got bugged out by. The reception where I am is pretty poor, but it was on my K800i so hard to say one way or the other.

One thing I do notice is that often Edge is quicker than 3G for data in London. Once I am outside London, with a 3g signal its wifi like. Once I get near home, often switching off 3G and going back to Edge makes it faster.
 
Yeah i've noticed that it always chooses 3G over Edge when really it would make more sence for it to select the network with the best/fastest connection and tbh that isn't always 3G depending upon your location.
 
I'd read some tales of 3G speed woe from US users, but they were relatively uninsightful - either saying it was crap or that it wasn't. So it's interesting to hear about the variance here and when it is or isn't faster. In some ways this cuts back to some of the very early criticisms of the phone, simplistic check-box evaluation: it doesn't have 3G. So anything with 3G will be better. Which ignored battery life, and the much less understood issue of latency, (and indeed rendering speed), as factors that are outside a simple hypothetical bandwidth measurement. I remember a side by side shootout, with a 3G palm vs EDGE iphone. The iPhone was only marginally behind on a same-page load test.

So it seems like we can also add network contention as another factor that makes basic hardware spec comparison a dubious "science". A bit like comparing vehicle BHP, but forgetting about weight.

FWIW, I've found similar results with EDGE. Out of town (or in the wee small hours) it runs much faster. And indeed with GPRS too.

Maybe what we're seeing here is that there is much higher contention, in London, on 3G (or at least O2's deployment) than on EDGE.
 
Ouch! If this is true Blackberry will be feeling the heat - and it would be a real triumph for the iPhone.

"ZDNet Australia certainly seems to think so. According to the site, Global Bank HSBC is considering ridding themselves of their reliance on the BlackBerry, opting instead to transition their workers to iPhones. If this goes through, it could result in a bulk order of up to 200,000 iPhone units which would most likely rank as the highest mass purchases of the handset to date."
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/08/13/hsbc-moving-to-iphone-dissolving-blackberry-allegiance/

My company are doing the same. Only about 1000 users but still if it's a trend ...

Have Apple decided to specifically target business users?
 
My company are doing the same. Only about 1000 users but still if it's a trend ...

Have Apple decided to specifically target business users?
Yes - the 3G (or rather, the 2.0 firmware) has MS exchange support. This was a deliberate move to capture some of the business market.
 
I'd read some tales of 3G speed woe from US users, but they were relatively uninsightful - either saying it was crap or that it wasn't. So it's interesting to hear about the variance here and when it is or isn't faster. In some ways this cuts back to some of the very early criticisms of the phone, simplistic check-box evaluation: it doesn't have 3G. So anything with 3G will be better. Which ignored battery life, and the much less understood issue of latency, (and indeed rendering speed), as factors that are outside a simple hypothetical bandwidth measurement. I remember a side by side shootout, with a 3G palm vs EDGE iphone. The iPhone was only marginally behind on a same-page load test.

So it seems like we can also add network contention as another factor that makes basic hardware spec comparison a dubious "science". A bit like comparing vehicle BHP, but forgetting about weight.

FWIW, I've found similar results with EDGE. Out of town (or in the wee small hours) it runs much faster. And indeed with GPRS too.

Maybe what we're seeing here is that there is much higher contention, in London, on 3G (or at least O2's deployment) than on EDGE.

It could be a bug:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...to_be_relieved_by_software_update_report.html
 
2.0.2 seems to have made it a bit quicker and less sluggish when typing on the keyboard. The 3g signal is a bit better as well. It was on just one bar now its on three.

I've been looking at the iTunes store for the 1st time on the iPhone and that is incredibly slick indeed.

The whole iPhone package has been brilliantly thought out and is approaching a technological work of art. There are some really irritating omissions, like I can't send contacts via text that dent that image, most are correctable.

No-one really took on the iPod in a meaningful way and now its got pretty much no competition. I do hope that isn't true for their phone.
 
Turns out HSBC have no interest in buying up 200,000 iPhones, and are sticking with Blackberry.

""There are no current plans to replace the BlackBerry," HSBC spokesman Donal McCarthy said Tuesday from the bank's headquarters in London."It is the business standard," he told CBC News."
http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/20/video-samsungs-extraordinary-i900-omnia-unboxing-go-ahead/

Meanwhile, Apple continues to struggle to fix the problems some users are getting with their 3G reception.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/007490.html
 
They have definitely fixed the GPS system for me. It was very sluggish and took ages to find your location sometimes giving up, now its nearly instant even indoors.

The 3g data is suddenly nearly competing with Wifi speed wise, it was quite slow before for me, Edge often being quicker.
 
I deleted that line because I thought it was an old article given they only released the update last night at about 8pm.

Its still a young device, this sort of stuff will have bugs in it? All of these devices do. So far Safari bombing out on more complex pages, GPS sluggish and failing to find your position, slightly jerky scroll speed when playing a track. Nothing to bad.

Infineon have been making 3G chips sets for a while so that chip isn't faulty. Its probably configuration of each countries 3g system being slightly different.

They seem to have fixed the 3g issue for me. You can always switch it off, I tend to have it off until I want faster out and about browsing. The cloud network means I am rarely far from a wifi spot anyway.
 

What a load of shit that article is, they clearly don't have an iPhone or much of a clue. I can hear the foam splashing on the floor as they speak. 'OMG its unbelievable software has bugs.' No! :rolleyes:

All applications you download are held on your iTunes account, you'd just need to sync again to get any app you had on there restored. If it really goes pear shaped, you can master reset and sync and everything is restored. No receipts needed.
 
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