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elbows said:
Nothing much wrong with that Guardian article if you ask me. Whatever the cause, Apples customer service has clearly let her down, and we deserve to hear about such things.
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Absolutely. Fuck knows why jæd keeps whining on and on about the writer, the website and a totally unrelated lifestyle feature rather than dealing with the topic.

The writer was absolute right to highlight the difficulties she's been getting, and it's an informative counterpoint to the general extremely positive press that the iPhone has been getting.

I imagine iPhone users looking to use the service will be very grateful to have potential problems pointed out.
 
editor said:
Absolutely. Fuck knows why jæd keeps whining on and on about the writer, the website and a totally unrelated lifestyle feature rather than dealing with the topic.
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Do not stray from the topic, do not shun the topic, do not besmirch the topic.
All hail the topic! :D:p
 
editor said:
Absolutely. Fuck knows why jæd keeps whining on and on about the writer, the website and a totally unrelated lifestyle feature rather than dealing with the topic.

The writer was absolute right to highlight the difficulties she's been getting, and it's an informative counterpoint to the general extremely positive press that the iPhone has been getting.

I imagine iPhone users looking to use the service will be very grateful to have potential problems pointed out.
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I once had stupid problems with NTL.
Lots of people did.

I wrote a very very similar piece to hers but on my blog.

Stone me, next time i'm not wasting it. I'm sending it to the Guardian. Print me up baby if thats all it takes to be journalist. I can do that!

Not saying none of the points aren't valid. Or that the anecdotal evidence isn't of some value. What would be of a lot more value though is reports that lots of people aside from her have been having problems. Providing that lots of people have been.
 
editor said:
The writer was absolute right to highlight the difficulties she's been getting, and it's an informative counterpoint to the general extremely positive press that the iPhone has been getting.
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There has been plenty other critisism of early problems with MobileMe, for example here at the Register, though to be fair, I can't be arsed trawling through Engadget and whatever to find more - there's plenty of links in the Reg article.

And its not really an iPhone problem, but Apple's software division that need to iron out issues...
 
You get a list of email applications you can connect to, one of which is the free well received Google service and you decide to pay out $99 for the Apple brand new untried service? Well done.

I don't have high hopes of this phone lasting 12 months with the battery. I reckon after 12 months of use I'll not get 2/3 of day of use out of it.
 
And the threads on urban go round and round, round and round, round and round. The threads on urban go round and round...
 
O2's (reported) 5 year deal isn't unbreakable, it seems:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/aug/01/telecoms.mobilephones

Personally I doubt things will change. Shitty as O2 can be (at times, the web site just defies belief) they seem to be doing better things with the iPhone than the native-turf AT&T. Amazingly, we Brits now pay *less* for the new model, whilst the Americans have to pay *more*. O2's dedicated iPhone support people are very easy get hold of and very helpful, and the shop staff are pretty good too in my limited experience. And O2 chuck in 10,000 WiFi access points, another thing the Americans don't get with AT&T.

Away from the customer benefits, the other (non trivial) matter is revenue payback to Apple. There's been several vaguely credible, but unconfirmed, reports that O2 bent over quite a bit in terms of revenue sharing. So would Vodafone or Orange do that? Bend over even more?

Of course there is another possible outcome - it goes multi provider in the UK. But - even though that's probably best for Apple (and consumers) in the long run - for some niggling unquantifiable reason, I doubt that will happen.

Place your just-for-fun bets folks... does it stay with O2 sole, or not?
 
Marius said:
Not saying none of the points aren't valid. Or that the anecdotal evidence isn't of some value. What would be of a lot more value though is reports that lots of people aside from her have been having problems. Providing that lots of people have been.
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And that'll be what the feedback section is for. You can find it right after her article.

You really want to get off your high horse about this. I bet you wouldn't be criticising so vehemently if she was, for example, complaining about poor service from her gas company.
 
Haha O2 are blithering idiots. Just sent me a text with a web link in, and for the 1st time for me I can just click that to open safari. Obvious, but nice.

It was a link to iPhone related stuff, 'cept the web page says come back in a few days! Another round of polite applause needed.
 
editor said:
And that'll be what the feedback section is for. You can find it right after her article.

You really want to get off your high horse about this. I bet you wouldn't be criticising so vehemently if she was, for example, complaining about poor service from her gas company.
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Yes i would. Its not news if its about Gas or a Landline either.
I had mega issues with both (BT and BRitish Gas) when i moved into my house last year. Both are a long established services. Me having such hassle isn't news worthy.

This one woman leaps to criticise a fledgling service and because its connected with Apple and the iPhone is high profile atm its considered newsworthy?
 
Marius said:
This one woman leaps to criticise a fledgling service and because its connected with Apple and the iPhone is high profile atm its considered newsworthy?
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Oh come on. Any product on the receiving end of the ludicrous levels of PR hype afforded to the iPhone can expect strong scrutiny.

One minute you've got Stephen Fry complaining that the iPhone hasn't had enough publicity (wha'?!) and now you're complaining that it's got the wrong sort of publicity!
 
editor said:
Oh come on. Any product on the receiving end of the ludicrous levels of PR hype afforded to the iPhone can expect strong scrutiny.

One minute you've got Stephen Fry complaining that the iPhone hasn't had enough publicity (wha'?!) and now you're complaining that it's got the wrong sort of publicity!
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Like I said before. Publish a real story about it fine. A one person anecdote isn't news no matter the subject.

If it is news how come we don't see stories about every company with crap customer service?
Cause Apple and O2 are by mo means alone and we'd have an anecdotes for thousands of firms.
 
Marius said:
Like I said before. Publish a real story about it fine. A one person anecdote isn't news no matter the subject.
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What? She's offered a review of her experiences with the services, That's what writers, journalists and reviewers do.

Trying to rubbish the article, the writer and the entire section that it's been published in (!) is just plain bizarre.
 
Perfectly reasonable article if you ask me (though not really about the iPhone). I run my business, such as it is, using MobileMe - granted that I didn't get it for that reason in the first place, but now I have it I do. A lot of Mac-using freelancers do the same, and more will be doing so as the iPhone gets more popular.

It's not a cheap service and for the money I expect a lot better service than I've been getting recently, and there are a lot of complaints around. I'm surprised the author could get through to Apple chat tech support at all.
 
Sunray said:
Mine does, well it appears that it does. Does it not send to the other people?

That would explain the other day then.
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I don't get the plus button to add another person after the first one has been added.

Eta Oh wait I do. But I got to press the area to get it to display when before the plus stayed visable for me so it was a one touch opperation to add a second person. Nowits a two touch :(
 
If the SMS tool gets a message while its sending it crashes. Thats happened twice now. I'm in a dodgy area for reception and this isn't so great anyway and it can take a while to send a message.
 
I am posting this from my 2 g iPhone its unlocked and i have my vodafone chip in it. My girlfriend just upgraded this one to the 3g version. In all honesty I think the battery life is shit. Much prefer my n95. That said I do like the touch screen and brousing is much better with this phone compared to the nokia. Oh and it plays music. Even the newer version iPhone does not support video calling and to be honest I do t think the Internet is that much faster. We tested on iphonenetworktest.com 2 g downloads at 332 kHz 3 g at 553 kbs not a massive improvement. Battery can't be replaced? how shit .
 
I left home today with a slightly depleted battery.

I've been over using the phone a bit and it was on 3g.

Watch the battery bleed away.

But look at the amount the big screen has been on so what do I expect. I never used my old phone in this manner. It just sat in my pocket till I had a call or a txt.

I think I'll be investing in one of those backup charger thingies though. What was the one we were recommending?
 
dogmatique said:
I got the Proporta thingy the Ed recommended a while back. Pretty good.
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Thanks for that. Just ordered one.

If anyone else is thinking of doing the same then the promotional code "cuppa" works from now until the end of August (10% off order).

I think "friendsforever" also works.
 
Something not right about 2.0 - text editing. Mostly it's fine but from time to time it turns to glue. I've seen it in safari, mail and text message, so it seems like an OS thing. Anyone else seeing this? When I say glue, I mean one letter per second - down to 12 key typing rates.

Roll on 2.1
 
It was only 2 days when i posted.

Well i think my iPhone may be faulty :(

I'm getting very low Wi-Fi rates of it.

My laptop is getting 5.19 Mbps (5190 kbps / 634 kb/s)
My iPhone at the same distance is getting 0.18Mbps - 0.27Mbs. (althgough i did get 0.85Mbs briefly)

Not sure what to do about it.
 
paolo999 said:
Something not right about 2.0 - text editing. Mostly it's fine but from time to time it turns to glue. I've seen it in safari, mail and text message, so it seems like an OS thing. Anyone else seeing this? When I say glue, I mean one letter per second - down to 12 key typing rates.

Roll on 2.1
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Yup, I've noticed that from time to time, sometimes it due to receiving a text, but mostly its for no obvious reason.
 
3g Docking Station

Completely made of FAIL.

No extra cable included and it sits the phone at completely the wrong angle, e.g. nearly vertical, making it nearly impossible to use it when docked.

Its there to show off that you have a iPhone while charging and fuck all else.
 
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