Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)
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Try downloading them in the foreground...? I think the longest download time was a few minutes over wifi for Texas Holdem. (Which is quite large due to containing video. Fun game, btw)...
Gromit
International Man of Misery
My 2G phone has started doing this. It wasn't doing it before.
My theory is that something has fucked up and is using up RAM or processor time or something.
My solution was to try a factory reset. I've been syncing all my data to get ready to try it. Now my 3G is here i'm not going to bother.
Going to sync my 3G and see what happens when i try and download something then. If I get the same problem then its going to be a step by step of adding apps one at a time to see which one is the guilty party.
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hiraethified
There's one mighty unchuffed editorial in The Guardian about Apple's MobileMe service:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/31/apple.email?gusrc=rss&feed=technologyfull
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/31/apple.email?gusrc=rss&feed=technologyfull
Gromit
International Man of Misery
Palringo doesn't unload from memory.
Plus programs with push elements must still be active somehow.
Plus Safari goes straight back to the last page visited when loading again.
Home button is not a total wipe.
That's the journo who was running a business on the back of MobileMe, a consumer orientated service..?
And, reports are, its beginning to stabilise...
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Yeah, they really dropped the ball on this one.
Dr. Furface
One small step for me
My god that really is a truly terrible story of human suffering.
Do they actually pay people to write pathetic whiney shit like that?!
Who...? Apple for not doing enough testing, or the Guardian, for paying for that travesty of a column...?
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hiraethified
Imagine the cheek of that "whiney" woman daring to complain that something she's forked out a lot of money for doesn't work as advertised and - worst of all - she's had the audacity to share her experiences online!Who...? Apple for not doing enough testing, or the Guardian, for paying for that travesty of a column...?
Outrageous! It's a travesty, I tell ye!
Crispy
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Mobileme really should be free. Google have added CalDAV support to their calendar now, so coupled with IMAP for gmail, you can get synchronised online and offline calendar & email. Personally, I have no need for the other stuff you get with mobileme (web hosting, idisk etc.) so it's of no value at all to me.
They should at least do a minimum functionality free version.
They should at least do a minimum functionality free version.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
I only use it for the sync (pretty useful for synching my home and work macs) and the web albums, I'd use the iDisk if I could even a slightly reasonable upload or download speed. It's atrocious for Europeans. And yes it should be free the greedy stards
I've got no problem with people complaining about a service they've paid for. However, I thought that the way the column was written was way below the Guardians usual standard. I understand she wanted to highlight problems with MobileMe, but I can think of more interesting ways of dealing with it, rather than a "woe is me" tale...
Gromit
International Man of Misery
I've been offered 6 months free trial with mobile me.
I don't need it so they can forget it. I don't need to sync on the move. It's not like I have a secretary at home changing my calendar or contacts whilst I'm out.
I can already access email and Facebook photos anywhere for free.
I agree that charging domestic customers for it is a joke.
I don't need it so they can forget it. I don't need to sync on the move. It's not like I have a secretary at home changing my calendar or contacts whilst I'm out.
I can already access email and Facebook photos anywhere for free.
I agree that charging domestic customers for it is a joke.
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hiraethified
I'd be happy to run my business off Gmail which is free.
And what price do you think someone might start to expect a decent and reliable email service?
You described it as a "travesty." In what way was it a "comedy characterized by broad satire and improbable situations", exactly?
Perhaps that's why it was under the "Comment Is Free" banner. Funnily enough, I can see readers agreeing with her comments on that page too, so I would have thought that other MobileMe users might find that useful.
Ruddy whiners, eh?!
With Gmail you've got no terms of service. If you lose business due to Gmail screwing up, you've no recourse....
I think someone is taking things a bit too literally here...
It would be handy if she posted any solutions, stuff she tried, etc... If I was her I'd look at the Apple Discussions forum. Handy stuff there... Anyhow, CiF has had quality problems before. Remember the numpty off to find himself thanks to the Guardian and the job obtained with Daddies help...?
Disclaimer : Opinions stated above are mine. Don't be surprised if other people vary...!
I also noticed that App installs via USB took alot longer than logically they should, given the filesize (vs. say audio of a similar size). Like 10 times longer.
I did have a theory that there is some kind of encryption / signature stuff going on that massively balloons the app's binary and/or requires some other hefty 'chat' with the store.
I'd be interested to hear how it goes with the 3G.
My understanding is that the Native Apps can run in background (Safari clearly shows this) and that selected ones (e.g. email) do network stuff too. However non native apps cannot run in background, until Apple release the notification server thingy (I forget it's name) to allow push type stuff to be managed in a way that doesn't create a risk of resource overload.
Possible indeed that the app image remains in memory, but frozen - that's the model used in Android.
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hiraethified
But she tried to find solutions from the very people who had taken her money and promised a service.
It's not her fault if Apple's service was shit and she has every right to complain, whether you like it or not. Why shouldn't she complain?
Sorry, that appears to have nothing to do with this whatsoever. Could you please explain its relevance?
See post # 1067 : "I've got no problem with people complaining about a service they've paid for. However, I thought that the way the column was written was way below the Guardians usual standard."
It was also in CiF section, and indicates ( IMO ) the general lack of quality in this section of the Guardian...
I've found that App Sync'ing is faster if all Apps are "closed". Ie, unloaded from memory. Though this would affect just updating an old App, rather than downloading new ones...
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hiraethified
You've just completely contradicted yourself. A minute ago you were complaining about the fact that she didn't offer any 'solutions' or log onto Apple's support forums etc, but now you're saying it's the style of her complaint you don't like.
But here's a thought. Instead of attacking the messenger, why don't you think about discussing the issues?
And that's a really piss weak argument.
Oh well.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Nothing much wrong with that Guardian article if you ask me. Whatever the cause, Apples customer service has clearly let her down, and we deserve to hear about such things.
I know they had a big messup with some email servers when transitioning to MobileMe, its been a nightmare, not exactly unusual to have such a launch go pearshaped, but deserving of reporting nonetheless.
I generally like Apple products and am a fan of their tech, but the fanboy desire to defend Apple at all costs annoys the hell out of me. I do not need to worship Apple or defend their failures in order to be able to appreciate the good side of their products.
I do wonder if part of it comes down to the premium costs of Apple. Does this make some purchasers of their stuff far more sensitive about their failings, requiring them to build walls of defense to preserve the brand they have invested in?
I know they had a big messup with some email servers when transitioning to MobileMe, its been a nightmare, not exactly unusual to have such a launch go pearshaped, but deserving of reporting nonetheless.
I generally like Apple products and am a fan of their tech, but the fanboy desire to defend Apple at all costs annoys the hell out of me. I do not need to worship Apple or defend their failures in order to be able to appreciate the good side of their products.
I do wonder if part of it comes down to the premium costs of Apple. Does this make some purchasers of their stuff far more sensitive about their failings, requiring them to build walls of defense to preserve the brand they have invested in?
That's what I've saying all along...
Perhaps because I wanted to highlight that I think the article could be better, coming from a respected newspaper... I've made a comment earlier about MobileMe... Or are we only allowed to discuss want you want to discuss...?
(Though tbh, I really can't be arsed : have a fun night posting about a phone... toodle-pip...!)
To give you some "discussion"....
Thing, as far as I can see, the service runs fine. There's been a few hitches, but nothing that isn't remarkable about something this size. And Apple seem to have been quite quick to remedy things, and now have good feedback...
I'm still not 100 % sure whether I'll keep using it, but the wireless sync is handy. The other services (ie. the web galleries, etc) are cool and well integrated. Yep, you could get 3rd party services to do it, but it is nice when you don't have to do more than click a button to get a 2-way sync'd web gallery...
Personally, its only correcting FUD coming from people who don't seem to have used it products / services much... (Though I'm more and more inclined not bother.) There's also a lot of things I've found out recently which are interesting, but under a NDA, so it can be quite frustrating listening to all the tales of woe...
Anyhow, I'm off... Play nicey-nicey...
Thing, as far as I can see, the service runs fine. There's been a few hitches, but nothing that isn't remarkable about something this size. And Apple seem to have been quite quick to remedy things, and now have good feedback...
I'm still not 100 % sure whether I'll keep using it, but the wireless sync is handy. The other services (ie. the web galleries, etc) are cool and well integrated. Yep, you could get 3rd party services to do it, but it is nice when you don't have to do more than click a button to get a 2-way sync'd web gallery...
Personally, its only correcting FUD coming from people who don't seem to have used it products / services much... (Though I'm more and more inclined not bother.) There's also a lot of things I've found out recently which are interesting, but under a NDA, so it can be quite frustrating listening to all the tales of woe...
Anyhow, I'm off... Play nicey-nicey...
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