Apple iPhone and related items (cont.)

[editor]

It's not that odd when you think about it but I wouldn't worry about it. As you say about the Centro to me, the iPhone simply isn't for you so you needn't worry about how well other people get on with it.

Difference is, I haven't suggested you have "mental problem" just because you're not keen on the phone.

 

[pk]

I had a Nokia E61 for ages, full QUERTY and all that, it was nice and quick on the text, but big and bulky.

Much happier with the 8GB N95 I got the other day, massive memory and instant music player sounds great too.

I do love the Apple gear but can't see myself getting one of those phones until they are offered free with my phone contract.

Never trust Mac ware until it's hit version 4, after then it's usually bulletproof.

Good thing is you can play Youtube vids on an iPhone - can't get a decent FLV player for the Symbian OS as far as I know, or any other PDA, is that right??

 

[editor]

You should be able to play YouTube vids on your N95 8GB:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/03/n95-8gb-updated-to-allow-full-youtubecom-access/

AFAIK, it's been possible for Palm users to play YouTube videos for some time thanks to the excellent Kinoma player
http://blog.kinoma.com/2008/02/real-youtube-vs-m-youtube-com/

 

[jæd]

I agree. I have friends try to use it and fail, I can use it effortlessly on a wobbly train or bus whereas others couldn't use it if held in a vice

So far I haven't seen any of my friends having problems but thats just been them adding basic stuff like contact details... Could it be a mental block...? Might be... Once you relax and imagine its a real keyboard then your fine. That and trusting the suggestions. (If you use the keyboard more they seem to get more accurate). Or it could be just personal taste...

 

[Crispy]

*shrug* some people don't use 'inverted' look controls in videogames. nothing wrong with em, just doesn't work like that for them.

 

[jæd]

*shrug* some people don't use 'inverted' look controls in videogames. nothing wrong with em, just doesn't work like that for them.

I kind of meant more that (some) people see a virutal keyboard and say "Lawks...! A virtual keyboard...! I can't use that...! *Wibble*" than a serious mental condition...

 

[editor]

I kind of meant more that (some) people see a virutal keyboard and say "Lawks...! A virtual keyboard...! I can't use that...! *Wibble*" than a serious mental condition...

I've been using virtual keyboards for years on my ClieTH55, so I've certainly no mental 'issues' with using one. I just think they're horrible compared to real ones.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Difference is, I haven't suggested you have "mental problem" just because you're not keen on the phone.

Where have I suggested that you have, I was speaking generally not making a personal attack. But as I said it's not for you so don't worry about it...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

So far I haven't seen any of my friends having problems but thats just been them adding basic stuff like contact details... Could it be a mental block...? Might be... Once you relax and imagine its a real keyboard then your fine. That and trusting the suggestions. (If you use the keyboard more they seem to get more accurate). Or it could be just personal taste...

Good post.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I've been using virtual keyboards for years on my ClieTH55, so I've certainly no mental 'issues' with using one. I just think they're horrible compared to real ones.

You used to type with your thumbs on the ClieTH55?

 

[Gromit]

Ï'm tÿpîñg thìš wïth mÿ thümb

on the iPhone. No problems and even enough control to easily do special chars with no complicated fuss.

 

[editor]

You used to type with your thumbs on the ClieTH55?

I used fingers and thumbs. There's loads of third party 'virtual screens' available.

No "mental block" or "mental problems" at all.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Ï'm tÿpîñg thìš wïth mÿ thümb

on the iPhone. No problems and even enough control to easily do special chars with no complicated fuss.

Your mind is in good working order then!

 

[gabi]

Classic. Editor's disdain for all things Apple has finally been diagnosed. He's mentally ill..

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Classic. Editor's disdain for all things Apple has finally been diagnosed. He's mentally ill..

You might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

 

[editor]

Classic. Editor's disdain for all things Apple has finally been diagnosed. He's mentally ill..

It's ridiculous, isn't it? And more than a bit insulting.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It's ridiculous, isn't it? And more than a bit insulting.

I thought Gabi was joking...anyway no one is saying you have a mental illness.

 

[editor]

Any chance of getting the topic away from my supposed mental condition about virtual keyboards and back to the iPhone?

 

[gabi]

Er yup, it was a joke... i dont think whoever claimed that there were mental issues here actually meant mentally ill Just a mental block. Which I dont agree with either incidentally.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Any chance of getting the topic away from my supposed mental condition about virtual keyboards and back to the iPhone?

We never left talking about the iPhone. We were talking about using the keyboard...anyway...

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I'd like to see some decent handwritting rec on it, that would be sweet.

 

[Crispy]

Apple already have decent handwriting tech - it's called inkwell and runs on OSX. I guess they don't want to burden the iphone with a stylus.

 

[editor]

Apple already have decent handwriting tech - it's called inkwell and runs on OSX. I guess they don't want to burden the iphone with a stylus.

I got pretty nifty on the Palm 'Graffiti' handwriting app, but once you get a proper keyboard it really feels like a step back.

My Windows Mobile phones had some sort of handwriting recognition built in, but they were well fiddly. I think I'd prefer a gesture based system (like Graffiti) rather than proper handwriting recognition because it's way faster.

 

[rocketman]

I really wish I had something valuable to add to this mis-titled Windows Mobile and Palm thread. I don't, so I reckon I'll just go away.Ooh - forgot to mention I wroted this using an Apple device. Is that so bad?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I really wish I had something valuable to add to this mis-titled Windows Mobile and Palm thread. I don't, so I reckon I'll just go away.Ooh - forgot to mention I wroted this using an Apple device. Is that so bad?

This thread is about the iPhone and related iPhone products...

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I got pretty nifty on the Palm 'Graffiti' handwriting app, but once you get a proper keyboard it really feels like a step back.

My Windows Mobile phones had some sort of handwriting recognition built in, but they were well fiddly. I think I'd prefer a gesture based system (like Graffiti) rather than proper handwriting recognition because it's way faster.

I had it on my motorola a1000 a few years back it was good, especially once you learnt what you could leave out of letters and them still be reconised. The proper keyboard on my e61 is still faster though.

However had a go the other day on a proper tablet pc and was blown away by how good it was, think the only thing that could beat it (for me) would be a full size pc keyboard.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

This is brilliant, play SNES games on your iPhone!

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Again an old motorola did that and snes games + doom about 4 years ago. It would be horrible on a pure touch screen, no tactile feedback.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Again an old motorola did that and snes games + doom about 4 years ago. It would be horrible on a pure touch screen, no tactile feedback.

Fair point but it shows just how gaming could work on the iPhone. I was sceptical about the keyboard at first but having used it I found it fine. I don't expect it too be much different in this case either.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Fair point but it shows just how gaming could work on the iPhone. I was sceptical about the keyboard at first but having used it I found it fine. I don't expect it too be much different in this case either.

Advantages I could see is you could put keys where you want, a problem many phones have is that they make shit controllers, but then should we be supprised the iphone has the grunt to run them?