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Pie 1 said:
Hopefully you're a just a good deadpan comic. Otherwise you are a very, very odd person.
My instinct is plumping for the latter tbh.
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i think it was a pastiche of johnny canuck's 'offline on 9/11' thread
 
tarannau said:
It doesn't even work as a two pronged point though. Start a thread on it and we can discuss if you like.

It doesn't hold water. It's just a smartarse generalisation that makes a weird point of highlighting Apple as a lifestyle brand devoid of other brand qualities, with some weak buyer remorse guff tacked on. Oh and combined with some sneery guesswork into buyer motivation, extrapolated out to Apple as suppoed fact. As I say, feel free to start off another thread elsewhere
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So you don't think a large chunk of Mac fanboys get defensive about Apple for the reasons I specified?
 
One fresh wheelbarrow load of condensed rumours coming up:
  • Engadget has pictures (see top of post) of what may be a prototype iTablet bolted to a desk (like the key to the Fortress of Solitude, only Super Steve Jobs is strong enough to lift it!).
  • Fray publisher Derek Powazek has an excellent post up outlining how he hopes Apple releases a device that makes consuming premium media fun enough that people will buy formerly print content from iTunes and the industry can finally monetize their work in the digital age.
  • Former Apple employee and current Palm developer relations man-about-web, Chuq Von Rospach follows up, saying that if Apple truly nails the “content consumption” device, makes it easy to get and enjoy media, they’ll cannibalize some laptop sales but will sell “zillions” of iTablets.
  • Wired goes so far as to say Apple isn’t going to re-invent the up-until-now failed tablet form factor but is going to re-invent content. Using an HTML5 (WebKit) platform like iTunes LP and iTunes Extras, it’s going to be as much about letting artists create for the iTablet as it is letting users consume on it.
  • The Wall Street Journal [Google search link] says Apple is still negotiating last-minute deals, trying to frame a 70/30 split with book publishers the way they do with music and apps. This would lead to higher prices, $12.99 and $14.99 for current hard-cover best-sellers, but would mean Apple wouldn’t lose $4.50 per book the way Amazon is willing to on the Kindle to push device sales.
  • Patently Apple reveals that Apple has just won iChat and “major” iTablet proximity detection patents, and a bunch of others.
  • Director of photography Rodney Charters says that the iTablet will get some screen time on the TV show 24, in episode 20 or more likely 22. Hey, why not have it save Jack and the World in the season finale?
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Start a thread Filter, but rest assured I think you're being an oversimplistic goon, armed only with piss-weak generalisations.

Are you talking about mac owning (sigh) 'fanboys' or the more consumer level purchasers of Apple products recently. Is Apple any more of a lifestyle brand, more detached from a niche market, than its immediate competitors and many other questions. The thread could run.
 
tarannau said:
Start a thread Filter, but rest assured I think you're being an oversimplistic goon, armed only with piss-weak generalisations.

Are you talking about mac owning (sigh) 'fanboys' or the more consumer level purchasers of Apple products recently. Is Apple any more of a lifestyle brand, more detached from a niche market, than its immediate competitors and many other questions. The thread could run.
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Of course I'm being oversimplistic - it's an internet message board and I'm winding you up :D

I'm talking about people who get oddly defensive when Apple are attacked, regardless of what they own.
 
Or the counterside is why are some inadequate types just so keen to try and wind up people largely happy with their purchases. If there's the phenomenon of the Apple fanboy, there's an even greater number of largely uninformed weirdos strangely committed to disliking the brand and making daft oversimplifications.

Oddly defensive my arse. Oddly quick to leap in with the daft oversimplifications and provocation more like.
 
So anyway. The apple site is still staying resolutely mum.

anyone know if this ludicrous presentation is going to be broadcast?
 
tarannau said:
Or the counterside is why are some inadequate types just so keen to try and wind up people largely happy with their purchases. If there's the phenomenon of the Apple fanboy, there's an even greater number of largely uninformed weirdos strangely committed to disliking the brand and making daft oversimplifications.

Oddly defensive my arse. Oddly quick to leap in with the daft oversimplifications and provocation more like.
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:D I don't dislike the brand. I love my iPhone.
 
Apple are hardly likely to leak product details on their own website, stealing Jobs' thunder are they?
:D

I'd assume Ive's involved. Can't see why he wouldn't take an interest in all products off the line.
 
tarannau said:
Apple are hardly likely to leak product details on their own website, stealing Jobs' thunder are they?
:D

I'd assume Ive's involved. Can't see why he wouldn't take an interest in all products off the line.
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I would've thought they might promote the webcast if they're gonna show it
 
there's never a webcast, but you can usually download a recording shortly afterwards
 
ChrisFilter said:
That's fair enough. Not seen anyone attacking you though.
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There's digs all over this thread at me regarding this launch, mainly lighthearted. Plenty in other threads cos I am an 'early adopter'.

Early adopter of many things though, not just Apple products...
 
ChrisFilter said:
:D I don't dislike the brand. I love my iPhone.
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To put this in context, you love your iphone after many months of auditioning competitor products - Nokia and HTC Hero iirc) and claiming that they were as good as the iphone. Before quietly changing over to the iphone, being won over by the clearly better system you had been quick to disparaged previously and whilst continuing to act reluctantly about the purchase because it came from Apple. You knows its true.

appreciate you being won over by the better product through gritted teeth and much procrastination, but let's not pretend that you're an unbiased commentator
:D

I'm oddly indifferent about today. I'm sure it'll be a swish product, thought through into something more downright usable and compelling in product offering than previous tablet launches. I'm just not convinced that I need a new format for books and magazines in my life, nor that it'll beat a laptop and computer combination at home
 
tarannau said:
To put this in context, you love your iphone after many months of auditioning competitor products - Nokia and HTC Hero iirc) and claiming that they were as good as the iphone. Before quietly changing over to the iphone, being won over by the clearly better system you had been quick to disparaged previously and whilst continuing to act reluctantly about the purchase because it came from Apple. You knows its true.

appreciate you being won over by the better product through gritted teeth and much procrastination, but let's not pretend that you're an unbiased commentator
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But this is it, I AM unbiased! You are the one with bias. I would love a full spec MacBook Pro, they're lovely machines. I dislike the brand loyalty that Apple foster but that doesn't mean I don't like the products.

As for my purchases, I switched to the iPhone when it became a viable option for me. Before then I chose the best product for my needs.

Honestly, if you didn't react, I probably wouldn't say a thing about Apple.
 
tarannau said:
To put this in context, you love your iphone after many months of auditioning competitor products - Nokia and HTC Hero iirc) and claiming that they were as good as the iphone. Before quietly changing over to the iphone, being won over by the clearly better system you had been quick to disparaged previously and whilst continuing to act reluctantly about the purchase because it came from Apple.
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Or it may be that the iPhone has made such great improvements over the years that its feature set and particular set of compromises now appear more attractive than the current crop of alternatives which have failed to offer anything new?

Today's iPhone - crucially, backed by tens of thousands of apps and a vibrant developer community - is a far more compelling prospect than it was two years ago. After all, just five months ago it couldn't offer such rock bottom mobile basics like video, MMS and cut and paste, or features seen on other platforms like sat nav.
 
Like pish you wouldn't, not that you say anything worthwhile anyway.

I'm at a loss why you think Apple engenders special brand loyalty for anything other than the usual reasons. It's that bias of yours coming out again.
 
tarannau said:
Like pish you wouldn't, not that you say anything worthwhile anyway.

I'm at a loss why you think Apple engenders special brand loyalty for anything other than the usual reasons. It's that bias of yours coming out again.
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:D You're actually getting a bit upset now aren't you?

I'm really just not that bothered about Apple themselves. Nice kit, but on the whole not for me. People who get so touchy about it, however, are fun to engage with. So I do.

A few months ago I advised a mate to get a MBP, she could afford it, she liked the idea of having a Mac, so I said 'do it'.
 
No, I'm really not. I just dislike the Colin Hunt ('just a laugh innit') excuse used to justify posting a load of betty swollocks

I'm perfectly calm and shoving my gob full of Almond Joys if you must know.
 
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