Minnie_the_Minx
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It's just occurred to me that with the new switch where it is, does that mean cable's going to have to go through kitchen cupboards and up into socket?
Any electricians here? (Hardwiring a cooker advice)
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It's just occurred to me that with the new switch where it is, does that mean cable's going to have to go through kitchen cupboards and up into socket?
This may well be the case,in which case a metre would do.Although I'm a sparky I haven't really done much for twenty odd years.But I know enough to expect the unexpected.
Minnie_the_Minx
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How would I know?
I just assumed maybe there was a standard location they place the bits and bobs
Minnie_the_Minx
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I just assumed maybe there was a standard location they place the bits and bobs
There might be. Whenever I've done domestic wiring I've just fitted as far as the outlet and the kitchen fitters connect the oven up to it.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Boths!!!11!Which reminds me, which one is the off switch?
There's two big red ones
What normally happens is the wiring is done prior to the kitchen being fitted. It's not so easy as an after thought. Whoever did your electrics should know this.
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
It can go straight to the cooker, but don't expect to sell the property to someone with a Mortgage like that. TBH I've seen people jam bare cooker wires in the two live pins with matches and more in the earth pin on the (normal kitchen) socket and live, but I'd not recommend it.
Minnie_the_Minx
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oh right, just so I know in the future. Not that I'd be doing any electrical stuff, but in case I had a fire or something and wanted to switch off
Why are there two? I'm pretty sure I only used to have one
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
Elfansafety probs.oh right, just so I know in the future. Not that I'd be doing any electrical stuff, but in case I had a fire or something and wanted to switch off
Why are there two? I'm pretty sure I only used to have one
Dunno really, have you had any work done before?
If you're unsure switch everything to off.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I'm going to find someone's already answered this, but fuckit. Loosen the screws either side of the fascia plate, twist it to level, then retighten them. Chances are there's enough play for you to force it level.
I'm more offended by the surface mount pattresses. I replaced our storage heaters in the first flat I owned, and DAFUQ was I going to do the Electricity Company job and just nail twin and earth along the walls, with surface mount spur outlets. I channelled those mothers into some of the hardest blockwork I've ever ncountered, and dug out with my bare FINGERNAILS (well, it felt like it) the recesses in which to put properly flush switch plates. My hands were scarred for months from the razor-sharp fragments of concrete block that hit them as I chiselled and hammered my way into those bloody walls.
But I'd do it again, any time, rather than screw surface mount pattresses to a wall. It's just my "thing".
Minnie_the_Minx
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Doesn't really matter, as getting a kitchen refurb next year.
I don't own property.
Minnie_the_Minx
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They installed that new fusebox a few years ago I think. Did a full electrics check when they moved it up an inch a couple of weeks ago
stuff_it
Too skool for cool
If there was a leccy cooker before just wire it into the same place. Simples.
As I've mentioned before I know an awesomely competent electrician but they live in Haringey. They do live in a squat however, and wold possibly take payment in speed.
Minnie_the_Minx
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*googles pattresses*
Minnie_the_Minx
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750 × 498 - diyfixit.co.uk
You mean as opposed to being sunk into the wall like this, thus not taking up more of my work surface?
Have a look behind where the cooker goes there may well be a plate on the wall there which is where the cooker circuit terminates and where you wire in the cable.That would be normal but it's also possible you may need to run the cable up the trunking to the switch.
Surface box,it's quite possible with a bit of practice to gently tap the box with a hammer to straighten it up,however the difference between straightening it and smashing the box is not great.
Minnie_the_Minx
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Please see Post 38 of this thread
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/any-electricians-here-hardwiring-a-cooker-advice.315661/page-2
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
TURN OFF ALL OF THE THINGS. Better to be safe.
My policy is TURN OFF ALL OF THE THINGS, THEN use your neon screwdriver (which you've already checked on a known-live supply) to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that live, neutral and earth are all dead.
I've had too many nasty belts while at the top of a stepladder because I didn't realise a downstairs light was actually on the upstairs ring, or similar, to trust to turning off switches, etc.
And if there is any other fucker in the house, switch off the power, then tape the cupboard shut with a suitable sign. I've had that, where some helpful bastard has wandered in, gone "ooh, look, the breaker's tripped, I'll just ..."...ZZZZZAPPPPP, you bastard.
It is lucky I have a strong heart
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Yes, like that.
750 × 498 - diyfixit.co.uk
You mean as opposed to being sunk into the wall like this, thus not taking up more of my work surface?
750 × 498 - diyfixit.co.uk
You mean as opposed to being sunk into the wall like this, thus not taking up more of my work surface?
That's how it's normally done. Surface electrics is only really for places where it doesn't matter if it looks unsightly such as an office. However hidden electrics involves bashing the hell out of walls and ripping up floorboards. Basically you need to redecorate after it.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Surface electrics (apart from, as you say, offices - though I'd be dubious even there - or garages/sheds) just say to me...
LAZY
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Definitely no plate there from what I can remember. Just plain wall.
Will have a look tomorrow at undoing that surface box and seeing if I can straighten it up though.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
TURN OFF ALL OF THE THINGS. Better to be safe.
My policy is TURN OFF ALL OF THE THINGS, THEN use your neon screwdriver (which you've already checked on a known-live supply) to make ABSOLUTELY SURE that live, neutral and earth are all dead.
I've had too many nasty belts while at the top of a stepladder because I didn't realise a downstairs light was actually on the upstairs ring, or similar, to trust to turning off switches, etc.
And if there is any other fucker in the house, switch off the power, then tape the cupboard shut with a suitable sign. I've had that, where some helpful bastard has wandered in, gone "ooh, look, the breaker's tripped, I'll just ..."...ZZZZZAPPPPP, you bastard.
It is lucky I have a strong heart
THINGS? You mean all this lot?
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/any-electricians-here-hardwiring-a-cooker-advice.315661/page-2
All the little black switches?
Which way is on and off anyway?! Why are some up and some are down?
Minnie_the_Minx
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Housing Associations/Councils don't like to spend money on doing nice jobs unfortunately
Well with big open plan offices you would fit a dado trunking around the inner perimeter and then they can put in or remove sockets at will. Companies tend to be a bit fickle with layouts and it would cost a fortune to chase the walls at their every whim!
