Another Russian spy hit?

[elbows]

I dont think its very sensible to draw that conclusion from that photo. eg the destination which they thought might require such levels of protection is not the location of this photo, so not everyone in the photo needs that level of protection. But you have to change into that gear before you get to the danger zone, and so will be pictured wearing it in other locations. This picture might even be showing an area where the external protective equipment is being decontaminated.

 

[agricola]

I dont think its very sensible to draw that conclusion from that photo. eg the destination which they thought might require such levels of protection is not the location of this photo, so not everyone in the photo needs that level of protection. But you have to change into that gear before you get to the danger zone, and so will be pictured wearing it in other locations. This picture might even be showing an area where the external protective equipment is being decontaminated.

Indeed, and of course Trumpton are all the other side of the cordon tape as it is.

 

[Teaboy]

Well, try me with some. Any. And then complain because I don't agree.

Listen to yourself. This is not an exasperated admission of futility in persuasion, like say with creationists or flat-earthers. It is cover for a glittered turd. Something that looks appealing but is actually totally void of substance.

FWIW I actually agree that there isn't any evidence that we have been party to. I am saying that if the evidence was produced would we understand it? Would you believe it? Prove me wrong, is there anything beyond a Russian mea culpa that you would accept as a smoking gun?

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Looks like Glushkov's death was by rather more basic means than nerve gas:
Police launch murder inquiry over death of Nikolai Glushkov

 

[xenon]

BBC radio news just reported police treating the death of Nicolae Glushkov as murder.

 

[xenon]

Yeah, that guy.

 

[2hats]

bbc news latest:
Analysis: Was chemical A-234 used?
By Gordon Corera, BBC security correspondent

The implication of the ambassador's comments is that the Russians have been told by the British the exact nerve agent deployed.

And there goes Mr Murray's latest comedy theory, down the toilet.

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

the sarcastic tweets from the Russian embassy - it's so bloody obvious it's Russia they might as well have admitted it!

 

[agricola]

I wonder how Corbyn will be blamed for allowing the Russian state to use the British courts system to go after one of its enemies?

 

[Reiabuzz]

Long thread and been really busy with other shit. Why is Corbyn not accepting that Putin is responsible for this and what's urban's reaction been to this?

I assume this won't play well with the electorate. Stupid at best. Just when I thought we could get rid of these fucking tories he does this.

 

[not-bono-ever]

This week saw Gazprom list near on a billion USD worth of debt on the London stock exchange. Just saying like

As U.K. Condemns Russia, Investors Pile Into Gazprom Bond Sale

profits never sleep or whatevs

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The firemen are clearly stood outside the police tape.

 

[DotCommunist]

dexters now onto crisis actors lol

 

[keybored]

except its by far the most obvious explanation.

CTers be like, "Occam who?"

 

[Kaka Tim]

can't we send to some sort of "basic principles of logic" gulag?

 

[agricola]

Long thread and been really busy with other shit. Why is Corbyn not accepting that Putin is responsible for this and what's urban's reaction been to this?

I assume this won't play well with the electorate. Stupid at best. Just when I thought we could get rid of these fucking tories he does this.

I don't think it was a matter of whether or not he accepts that Putin is responsible for it - it was probably some form of misguided attempt to make the point that MPs shouldn't blindly believe whatever the Government happens to say, especially when they don't actually say anything about what they've actually done. With one exception (the one about the exact science used in the test) the questions were all very relevant.

As you say it was stupid - he knows what type of person the Commons is presently composed of, how they would react to him and the likelyhood that the Press would report it honestly; really should have just said he accepted that Putin almost certainly did it at the start and then spent the rest of his speech gently suggesting that the "tough measures" brought in by the PM were nothing of the sort.

 

[Reiabuzz]

I don't think it was a matter of whether or not he accepts that Putin is responsible for it - it was probably some form of misguided attempt to make the point that MPs shouldn't blindly believe whatever the Government happens to say, especially when they don't actually say anything about what they've actually done. With one exception (the one about the exact science used in the test) the questions were all very relevant.

As you say it was stupid - he knows what type of person the Commons is presently composed of, how they would react to him and the likelyhood that the Press would report it honestly; really should have just said he accepted that Putin almost certainly did it at the start and then spent the rest of his speech gently suggesting that the "tough measures" brought in by the PM were nothing of the sort.

I think part of his charm is that he is 'misguided' at times when he speaks which is quite endearing in a way. Surely though he should realise that most of the electorate won't be reading his intellectual response in his Guardian article this morning and instead just see the headlines about him defending Putin plastered across the media. Who the hell is advising him. He's got to play the game.

It's a gift to May.

 

[DexterTCN]

I dont think its very sensible to draw that conclusion from that photo. eg the destination which they thought might require such levels of protection is not the location of this photo, so not everyone in the photo needs that level of protection. But you have to change into that gear before you get to the danger zone, and so will be pictured wearing it in other locations. This picture might even be showing an area where the external protective equipment is being decontaminated.

I see that it's roped off, firemen on the outside, biohazard bods this side with plastic sheeting on the ground over what seems to be a container. I've no idea what's going on and didn't claim to because I think it's from a tv news clip and I don't watch tv.

I'm also wondering how effective the roping off is on public safety grounds.

 

[agricola]

I think part of his charm is that he is 'misguided' at times when he speaks which is quite endearing in a way. Surely though he should realise that most of the electorate won't be reading his intellectual response in his Guardian article this morning and instead just see the headlines about him defending Putin plastered across the media. Who the hell is advising him. He's got to play the game.

It's a gift to May.

I'd like to think that, but having watched him on the election debates and in various appearances since he became leader I think its more that matters of security (and especially things military) are an anathema to him. He gives the impression of either not wanting to know or has no confidence in himself to speak on those matters, so he generally seems to avoid mentioning them unless forced into it.

It is a shame of course because its those areas where the Tories are most vulnerable, especially on their record of what they got up to between 2010 and 2015 where people with long service were getting sacked just before they were due for pensions and in order to save money, when planes were being deliberately wrecked and vital bases closed (the last two being especially relevant now we are back to disliking Russia).

 

[Kaka Tim]

Corbyn could have gone big on action against russian oligarchs with london property and donations to the tory party. But no - hes gifted the tories and the media with a massive smear opportunity. FFS.

 

[DexterTCN]

BBC view of Corbyn, last night.

 

[squirrelp]

And there goes Mr Murray's latest comedy theory, down the toilet.

Why? What of Craig Murray is being contradicted?

 

[Spymaster]

So, squirrelp will you agree that the French have seen evidence of Russia's culpability that caused them to revise their position and agree that they were behind the attack?

 

[squirrelp]

So, squirrelp will you agree that the French have seen evidence of Russia's culpability that caused them to revise their position and agree that they were behind the attack?

Have they said so?

 

[Spymaster]

Have they said so?

Yes.

 

[squirrelp]

Yes.

Quote please.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Have they said so?

Yes they have, now fuck off you loon.

And, once you've done that, fuck off again.

 

[squirrelp]

Yes they have, now fuck off you loon.

And, once you've done that, fuck off again.

Tell you what - you provide the quote, and I'll fuck off from the thread as you request.

 

[Spymaster]

Quote please.

Ffs, are you not reading what's being posted?

See post #657

 

[8115]

BBC view of Corbyn, last night.

View attachment 130162

Red Jez indeed. Strong look.

Haven't read the thread so apologies if this has been said but surely the modern Russian state is in no way communist so trying to smear Cornyn by linking him to Russia in this way makes no sense. Or does Putin maintain links to Russia's communist past? I don't know much about Russia but I thought Yeltsin (?) did a pretty good job of clearing out communism?