Another Lib Dem anti-Semite

[Garek]

Up there with Toynbee in clueless mouthing off.

"Having visited Auschwitz twice - once with my family and once with local schools - I am saddened that the Jews, who suffered unbelievable levels of persecution during the Holocaust, could within a few years of liberation from the death camps be inflicting atrocities on Palestinians in the new State of Israel and continue to do so on a daily basis in the West Bank and Gaza."

Yes that's right. The crimes of Israel are the crimes of THE JEWS.

 

[el-ahrairah]

it's not put very well, is it?

israel is a jewish state, but jews are not all israeli.

 

[Garek]

it's not put very well, is it?

israel is a jewish state, but jews are not all israeli.

Exactly, and nor are all Israelis part of the Israeli ruling elite...

 

[DotCommunist]

cat killers and anti semites, can't wait for the GE wipeout

 

[KeeperofDragons]

My thought on this was oh good grief what a knob

 

[brogdale]

My thought on this was oh good grief what a knob

Majority of just 365 in Bradford East. I'm figuring not a huge Jewish vote there?

 

[DotCommunist]

Majority of just 365 in Bradford East. I'm figuring not a huge Jewish vote there?

well, not for him after that.

 

[frogwoman]

the jews.

baronness younge (??) was another one iirc

 

[purenarcotic]

'The Jews' - ffs.

 

[Teaboy]

Majority of just 365 in Bradford East. I'm figuring not a huge Jewish vote there?

Probably not a huge lib dem one there now either.

 

[frogwoman]

as the economy goes downhill some are trying to revive the old socialism of fools again. including many of the people partly responsible for ruining the economy in the first place

 

[brogdale]

Probably not a huge lib dem one there now either.

Yes, and of course those two things will have been completely unrelated.

 

[Garek]

the jews.

baronness younge (??) was another one iirc

'The Jews' - ffs.

They killed Jesus to you know!

 

[agricola]

It is amazing how many people blame "the Jews" for all manner of bad things that happen - Lib Dem politicians, people whose white clothing has been ruined by spilled drinks etc

 

[frogwoman]

i hope for the sake of everyone here that the late and unlamented dr beeching was not a nazi because if he was i would go on about it in a mad rage for the next 40 years

 

[DotCommunist]

beeching railhater

 

[frogwoman]

seriously if he did turn out to be a nazi, i would never, ever, ever forget it. and would remind people of it continuously

 

[Balbi]

It's fucking icy here, bloody jews stealing all the good weather to have in their zionist paradise.

 

[Dan U]

Without wishing to diminish what this chap has said and the picture floating around of him with a swastika graffiti behind him - really rather a lot is being made of this by right wingers on twitter. If I were a cynical fellow I might think they want to talk about something, anything that wasn't failed economic policies and unprecedented triple dip recessions.

 

[Left]

Tactless remark. But people say much worse things. Doesn't seem worth making a big deal out of.

 

[butchersapron]

Tactless remark. But people say much worse things. Doesn't seem worth making a big deal out of.

He's a lib-dem MP, of course it is.

 

[The39thStep]

It is amazing how many people blame "the Jews" for all manner of bad things that happen - Lib Dem politicians, people whose white clothing has been ruined by spilled drinks etc

I come across more anti semitism coming from asians and arabs than any other grouping.

 

[Random]

as the economy goes downhill some are trying to revive the old socialism of fools again. including many of the people partly responsible for ruining the economy in the first place

Sounds like dogwhistle politics for Bradford racists. Or maybe more klaxon politics

 

[Falcon]

It is unfortunate that Israel defines itself in its basic laws as a "Jewish" state and, in fact, is the only Jewish state in the sense that it is the only Jewish-majority state. So "The Jews" and "Israel" do tend to be conflated, not least by Israel, and many Jews, when advancing a Jewish political agenda. It seems a little skewed to assert that Israel represents the interests of all Jews when it is promoting their interests, and doesn't represent them when it is harming them.

Furthermore, I think we can assert the principle that, in many matters, "silence is consent", and that this is one of those matters. So can anyone provide any material evidence of institutions representing non-Israeli Jews deploring Israeli atrocities in Palestine in pursuit of a greater Jewish state? I expect there will be individuals - I'm interested in representative institutions.

That would be fascinating.

 

[butchersapron]

That's an example of "advancing a Jewish political agenda"

It is unfortunate that Israel defines itself in its basic laws as a "Jewish" state and, in fact, is the only Jewish state in the sense that it is the only Jewish-majority state. So "The Jews" and "Israel" do tend to be conflated, not least by Israel, and many Jews, when advancing a Jewish political agenda. It seems a little skewed to assert that Israel represents the interests of all Jews when it is promoting their interests, and doesn't represent them when it is harming them.

Furthermore, I think we can assert the principle that, in many matters, "silence is consent", and that this is one of those matters. So can anyone provide any material evidence of institutions representing non-Israeli Jews deploring Israeli atrocities in Palestine in pursuit of a greater Jewish state? I expect there will be individuals - I'm interested in representative institutions.

That would be fascinating.

What would "advancing a Jewish political agenda" look like? Have you any examples?

 

[Falcon]

What would "advancing a Jewish political agenda" look like? Have you any examples?

Other than the establishment of the state of Israel as a home to Jews and the political fulfilment of Jewish religious prophesy, you mean?

 

[dylans]

Blaming "the Jews" for Zionist atrocities is no different to blaming "the Muslims" for the crimes of Islamists. Apart from the fact that such remarks are offensively stereotypical and generalising, they actually play into the narrative of Zionists and Islamists because it is they who claim to speak for all Jews or all Muslims. It is they who clothe their politics in the language of religion. It is important not to play into their narrative.

 

[butchersapron]

Other than the establishment of the state of Israel as a home to Jews and the political fulfilment of Jewish religious prophesy, you mean?

That's an example of "advancing a Jewish political agenda"? Are you the suggesting then that it is correct to conflate Jews with the Israeli state and that they have a shared "Jewish agenda"?

What other examples of "advancing a Jewish political agenda" could you point to?

 

[Garek]

Furthermore, I think we can assert the principle that, in many matters, "silence is consent", and that this is one of those matters. So can anyone provide any material evidence of institutions representing non-Israeli Jews deploring Israeli atrocities in Palestine in pursuit of a greater Jewish state? I expect there will be individuals - I'm interested in representative institutions.

That would be fascinating.

"Silence is consent"?

 

[Maggot]

MP words something badly - yawn.