I only found out about it yesterday.
Is this someone still out from last night?
Yes, and they had an AMAZING night
Angel pub on Coldharbour Lane becomes arty community space run by Brick Box
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Yes, and they had an AMAZING night
soupdragon
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Thanks.
Hadn't realised that A3 meant 'working class pub that will continue to serve it's previous customers'
and I always find it soothing to be patronised by smug property developers fighting for their brethren.
Oh but hang on a moment, look:
A4 is now pubs!?! and A3 is restaurants that can be turned into shops or professional/financial offices.
You were saying?
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hiraethified
For what it's worth, not one of the residents I've spoken to even knew the Angel had reopened for the £40 supper club and, I have to say, not one of them was particularly impressed with the idea when I explained it to them ("flaunting it in our faces" was one comment I heard).
I don't understand why a 'community based' organisation like Brick Box didn't at least put posters up in the window beforehand, because I imagine most of the local residents are unlikely to spend much of their time surfing Brixton Villaaage websites.
I don't understand why a 'community based' organisation like Brick Box didn't at least put posters up in the window beforehand, because I imagine most of the local residents are unlikely to spend much of their time surfing Brixton Villaaage websites.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
You are quite right - these people are not only "up their own ass" so to speak, but they may even be putting their "business model" at risk with their insularity. The people at the Asian grocers next to the betting shop seemed to be getting victimised by late-night shoppers recently, and had to increase security. I recall the old Prince of Wales by the Ritzy which got the occasional brick through the window - presumably because the Beenie Man types objected to its "battyism" (or maybe the security measures taken to keep them out).
If the locals who hang out on the shopping parade object the most likely thing is the occasional mugging I would have thought. That might not be so good for business, although maybe it might perk up the secondhand iPhone market!
Don't suppose Lexadon care who is operating in the property prior to the building work - so long as they are not REAL squatters!
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Excellant work CH1
To make it clear to people comments on planning application are only taken into consideration if they relate to planning regulations and guidelines. Such as a building being in a conservation area, overlooking other properties etc.
Planning is fairly limited in that case. It can be used to protect buildings and look of an area. It does not cover social or economic issues that much.
I think planning is boring to a lot of people because its limited in this way.
lang rabbie
Je ne regrette les gazebos
Actually A4 pubs can be turned into A3 restaurants, A2 professional offices and A1 shops without planning permission as well.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Thank you for pointing it out. It is under details/further information
Could have saved myself a walk, then.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Planning applications are often withdrawn and then resubmitted, if the planners ask for changes that can't really be dealt with as an amendment. Or if they deliberately ask for changes to the application just before time's up when there isn't time to make them. It's a way for the planners to buy more time without getting done for not meeting their deadline.
I'd expect another, slightly modified application to appear for the Angel fairly soon.
I'd expect another, slightly modified application to appear for the Angel fairly soon.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
All About Brixton? Big Subject.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
*awaits the baying mob*
Haagen Dazs?
very Nu-Brixton
Is that a good start Boohoo
Is that your Windmill?
boohoo
No.
If Brick Box is run by people who were involved in Shunt, it will be arty, farty and quirky and not to everybodies taste with some hit and miss. I use to pop into Shunt regularly and witnessed some amazing ideas (the mini boating pond in the vaults), some fun stuff (roller skating/free massage -not at same time!) and the ridiculous (people throwing paint over each other). For someone who is rather tired of clubbing and doesn't want to sit and drink, Shunt was a beautiful venue and at a £5 a great evening out!
https://www.facebook.com/events/131735920287555/
https://www.facebook.com/events/131735920287555/
boohoo
No.
Haagen Dazs?
very Nu-Brixton
Is that a good start Boohoo
Is that your Windmill?
Free ice cream! - Might have to find a baby sitter!
Now the windmill would be a great space for some art!
boohoo
No.
I was aware of this project from twitter (which I'm sure must have some Brixton users who have been around for more than a few years). I think some people just aren't good at thinking about how you attempt to reach everyone - leaflets/posters/facebook/website/mailing list. Or don't have the resource to do it.
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hiraethified
How much effort does it take to put a poster in the window? I think it's hugely unlikely that - given their past - Brick Box are particularly lacking in the necessary PR skills, if so inclined.
Truth is, I don't think anyone in the surrounding community has the slightest idea what's going on, unless they perhaps glimpsed the procession of Edwardian gentry strutting down Coldharbour Lane for the whizzo £40 supper jaunt a while back.
boohoo
No.
boohoo
No.
Open doors are doing the event so not down to Brick Box to promote the engagement of locals into the project.
if I did a mural thing there, I would do 95% or promotion and engagement with the locals. Having just been knee deep in a project which should engage locals, it meets lots of difficulties - so people engaged in some things and not in others, working with other organisations- where does communication responsibilities lie, etc, etc.
editor
hiraethified
It says, "Hosted by Brick Box" on the flier and they are the people who love to go on about how they're all about community.
Plus there's loads of street drinkers around the area (on account of them taking over their old pub) and given their stated desire to hang out with them, I thought they might have been keen to let them know what's occurring.
boohoo
No.
I do miss the place. However I know some of my Brixton friends(born and bred, ordinary folk) would not have liked cooltan or the crusty dreadlock look or the drug fuelled parties or the run down building. I know as I remember some of them giving me the look of what is with the multi coloured clothes and raggy hair - it's not something they saw as aspirational.
How to serve a diverse community like Brixton is a complex issue. By putting barriers down, you stop some of the diversity happening or allowing people to experience different things. If no-one wants the Brick box events, they will fall on their face.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Never went to cooltan so much as once in the 20 years I've lived in Brixton. I had never heard of it until coming on urban.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
I remember the first time I went to the Albert about 15 years ago. My then boyfriend warned that I might not like it as it was full of 'crusties, you know, the dog on a string brigade'.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
Me neither.
editor
hiraethified
I'm sure there's a certain kind of folk who will simply lurve Brick Box events, but I suspect that not that many will be from the actual surrounding community.
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