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Anelka's quenelle

The terms ' Zionist ' and ' Jew ' are not synonymous. By far the largest US contingent of supporters of Israeli criminality are ' christians '. The neo-Zionists simply use Judaism as cover.
Topic-wise- when neo-Zionists can assassinate your character due to a movement of your body we are in serious trouble of becoming slaves to a foreign power- much the same as many US Congresspersons.
 
moono said:
The terms ' Zionist ' and ' Jew ' are not synonymous. By far the largest US contingent of supporters of Israeli criminality are ' christians '. The neo-Zionists simply use Judaism as cover.
Topic-wise- when neo-Zionists can assassinate your character due to a movement of your body we are in serious trouble of becoming slaves to a foreign power- much the same as many US Congresspersons.
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Topic-wise, tell me the quennelle is not anti-semtic. Tell me the roman salute is just a movement of your body. Then i'll tell you what you are.
 
moono said:
The terms ' Zionist ' and ' Jew ' are not synonymous. By far the largest US contingent of supporters of Israeli criminality are ' christians '. The neo-Zionists simply use Judaism as cover.
Topic-wise- when neo-Zionists can assassinate your character due to a movement of your body we are in serious trouble of becoming slaves to a foreign power- much the same as many US Congresspersons.
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Note - 'neo-zionists' - what are these?
 
In whose head ? Zionism is a political doctrine and opposition to it is world-wide. Parroting ' anti-semitism ' in its defence is often the misguided action of well-meaning folk who are ignorant of neo-Zionist activities. The other parrots tend to be those in favour of Israeli fascism.
Topic-wise, Anelka has refused the ' anti-semitic ' straight-jacket. Witch-hunters claim to know what he was thinking. Any present will claim to know what I'm thinking too. It's a fight I can win under fair rules.
 
moono said:
In whose head ? Zionism is a political doctrine and opposition to it is world-wide. Parroting ' anti-semitism ' in its defence is often the misguided action of well-meaning folk who are ignorant of neo-Zionist activities. The other parrots tend to be those in favour of Israeli fascism.
Topic-wise, Anelka has refused the ' anti-semitic ' straight-jacket. Witch-hunters claim to know what he was thinking. Any present will claim to know what I'm thinking too. It's a fight I can win.
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Tell me the quennelle is not anti-Semitic. Tell me the roman salute is just a movement of your body. Then i'll tell you what you are.
 
moono said:
In whose head ? Zionism is a political doctrine and opposition to it is world-wide. Parroting ' anti-semitism ' in its defence is often the misguided action of well-meaning folk who are ignorant of neo-Zionist activities. The other parrots tend to be those in favour of Israeli fascism.
Topic-wise, Anelka has refused the ' anti-semitic ' straight-jacket. Witch-hunters claim to know what he was thinking. Any present will claim to know what I'm thinking too. It's a fight I can win under fair rules.
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Parroting? Is this what all opposition is? And don't say 'often' - say exactly how in this case the stuff you suggest works.
 
Certainly, if it remains civil.
Zionism takes many forms. My personal dislike is that of the varieties which contravene international law- neo-Zionism in particular.
It's a brutal doctrine of ethnic cleansing and should not be supported by anybody who respects humanitarian law .
 
Here's a short list of variants;
3.1 Labor Zionism
3.2 Liberal Zionism
3.3 Nationalist Zionism
3.4 Religious Zionism
3.5 Green Zionism
3.6 Neo-Zionism and Post-Zionism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism
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It's not my intent to suggest that Anelka thinks the same way that I do. I don't know what Anelka thinks. I simply object to others claiming that they do and the reasons they give in selling their assumptions.
 
moono said:
In whose head ? Zionism is a political doctrine and opposition to it is world-wide. Parroting ' anti-semitism ' in its defence is often the misguided action of well-meaning folk who are ignorant of neo-Zionist activities. The other parrots tend to be those in favour of Israeli fascism.
Topic-wise, Anelka has refused the ' anti-semitic ' straight-jacket. Witch-hunters claim to know what he was thinking. Any present will claim to know what I'm thinking too. It's a fight I can win under fair rules.
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No one claims to know what Anelka was thinking, what sort of bullshit is that? What people have done is to look at Dieudonne's track record, Anelka's friendship with Dieudonne and drawn conclusions from that.

Do you disagree that Dieudonne is anti-semitic? If so, why?
 
I've seen it reported that he uses the gesture as an UN-nazi salute, a gesture of protest against the encroachments of the establishment into personal freedom. I don't know what he thinks and whatever it is forms no grounds for victimizing Anelka.
That's water under the bridge. My contention is with those who maintain- without the possibility of sound evidence- that Anelka used it as an anti-jewish reference. That's absurd.
To those who object to racist gestures I ask where is your protest to other, non-jewish, gestures ? Show me your protestations against this anti-Palestinian gesture;
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This gesture murdered 1400 people, including 400 children. Is nobody permitted to move so much as an arm in protest ? Aren't such values half-way down the cludgee ?
 
moono said:
I've seen it reported that he uses the gesture as an UN-nazi salute, a gesture of protest against the encroachments of the establishment into personal freedom. I don't know what he thinks and whatever it is forms no grounds for victimizing Anelka.
That's water under the bridge. My contention is with those who maintain- without the possibility of sound evidence- that Anelka used it as an anti-jewish reference. That's absurd.
To those who object to racist gestures I ask where is your protest to other, non-jewish, gestures ? Show me your protestations against this anti-Palestinian gesture;
White-Phosphorus-001.jpg


This gesture murdered 1400 people, including 400 children. Is nobody permitted to move so much as an arm in protest ?
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wtf are you on about? Answer the questions put to you. Directly.
 
Blagsta said:
I note you're avoiding answering direct questions.
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Not at all. I can't answer an impossible enquiry. I cannot be certain of what anybody thinks - and neither can anybody else. We can only try to interpret actions. Has this Frenchman harmed any jewish people ?
 
Gestures are movements with meanings peculiar to the individual who employs them. Romans, for example, had they used what we now term a ' Nazi ' salute were not proclaiming any dislike of Semites.
 
It's actually anti-Zionism- Zionism in its ethnic-cleansing capacity. That's already been explained. ' Pin the Swastika ' is yesterday's football amusement, isn't it ?
 
butchersapron said:
What is? And what is? Answer me.
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I'll answer you again. You implied that the Palestinian cause was ' antisemitic '. I explained, again, that the contention is with neo-Zionism, a political doctrine, not Judaism. Palestinians and Jews are well capable of co-existence. Being opposed to ethnic-cleansing does not constitute anti-jewishness. Neither does being opposed to unhealthy social restraints - such as the banning of body movements.
Could you define an anti-jewish gesture, please . Has the Football Association issued its list yet ? Or does it only respond to mischievous hysteria ?
 
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