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Anelka's quenelle

Hmmm....shall I stick to my current self-ban from P&P, or get moono to actually answer some of the questions put to him/her? (As per froggy's most recent post)?
 
Enjoy your institutionalised daisy-chaining- but remember- you've been out-debated by one honest individual. So it will always be. You'll see.
 
Enjoy your institutionalised daisy-chaining- but remember- you've been out-debated by one honest individual. So it will always be. You'll see.
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Enjoy your institutionalised daisy-chaining- but remember- you've been out-debated by one honest individual. So it will always be. You'll see.

What sort of bloody answer is that? Ye gods. And I thought [Urbz name redacted] was an incompetent oaf....

(OK, back on P&P self-ban I go)
 
I've seen it reported that he uses the gesture as an UN-nazi salute, a gesture of protest against the encroachments of the establishment into personal freedom. I don't know what he thinks and whatever it is forms no grounds for victimizing Anelka.
That's water under the bridge. My contention is with those who maintain- without the possibility of sound evidence- that Anelka used it as an anti-jewish reference. That's absurd.
To those who object to racist gestures I ask where is your protest to other, non-jewish, gestures ? Show me your protestations against this anti-Palestinian gesture;
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This gesture murdered 1400 people, including 400 children. Is nobody permitted to move so much as an arm in protest ? Aren't such values half-way down the cludgee ?


Oh fucking hell I just seen this. Nobody is allowed to move an arm in protest.

You disgust me.you antisemitic piece of shit - saying antisemitism is the same as opposing the government!

Well done. Netanyahu doesn't even need a PR team with scum like you about.
 
Even you say Netenyahu (who was democratically elected by Israelis) tries to muddy the waters between opposing a criminal regime and being anti-semitic.

Read his posts before lecturing me about he was a naive innocent that didn't know nuances. Not being funny but I get sick of people trying to bring the Israeli government as a means to excuse obvious racism. Its like when EDL types say they are attacking mosques etc as 'a protest against sharia law' and the equivalent of someone going 'yeah but sharia law is really bad' totally missing the point.
 
Even you say Netenyahu (who was democratically elected by Israelis) tries to muddy the waters between opposing a criminal regime and being anti-semitic.

Antisemites also try and muddy the waters. It's really not rocket science that someone whose kid has le pen as a godfather and who makes a song taking the piss out of Shoah victims and encourages his fans to take 'funny' photos of themselves outside concentration camps is going to be both not exactly sympathetic to Jews and on the far right and someone who says they are that person's mate is dodgy to say the least.

I'm sorry if my last post came across as aggressive it wasn't intended to be. It just seriously fucks me off when people want to say that this shit is all because they oppose Israel, they would do it regardless of Israel existing or not and the type of shit dieudonne comes out with doesn't really have fuck all to do with human rights.

'Even you' - what do you mean by that?
 
Even you say Netenyahu (who was democratically elected by Israelis) tries to muddy the waters between opposing a criminal regime and being anti-semitic.

Well, only "democratically-elected" insofar as his party and others formed a coalition, and his party had the biggest wedge of ministerial pie. One thing that Fat Benny wasn't, was "democratically-elected" directly, by a majority of the people of Israel.
 
Nowt. Don't know why I said it.

OK no worries. Sorry I know that my posts probably seemed a bit aggressive but I have seen this too much from some people who use the fact the Israeli government are bastards as an excuse for just about anything
 
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