Anelka's quenelle

[frogwoman]

That's why the guardian piece on the berlin nazi pub prick came to mind. He thinks he's being clever. Le Pen is godfather to his one of his kids ffs. Why was that relationship not mentioned.

Sickening to see him go on about slavery when his mates would love to bring it back.

 

[frogwoman]

And most of the people who died in the holocaust were poor agricultural labourers or people living in tenements in places like warsaw etc. not slave owners.

 

[butchersapron]

Just to hammer home this clowns views on the holocaust, this appeared in the NYT a day back:

Today, a popular comic known as Dieudonné M’Bala M’Bala (his stage name is simply Dieudonné) claims “not to know, between the Jews and Germans,” who’s telling the truth — “but I have my own little ideas on the subject.” We know what those ideas are: Dieudonné invited onstage at one of his shows Robert Faurisson, a “theorist” of Holocaust denial, who argues that the extermination of the European Jews is a Jewish invention.

 

[frogwoman]

Ah yeah the sneering loathsome "nudge nudge wink wink we all hate jews secretly"

 

[frogwoman]

Just to hammer home this clowns views on the holocaust, this appeared in the NYT a day back:

That;s an excellent piece.

 

[rekil]

That was Sky's 'royal correspondent' who interviewed Dieudonne. 'He speaks French, yeah he'll do.'

 

[Theisticle]

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport 6m
Nicolas Anelka’s FA charge hearing into his ‘quenelle’ gesture not expected to begin until end of Feb to give his legal team time to prepare

 

[MellySingsDoom]

All I can be arsed with. Thought it was quite plain myself. One definitive post about my alleged jew-hatery delivered as requested.

Not even a thank-you? With the comments about me trolling etc. I'm just going to find more interesting discussions.

Enjoy.

Continued content-free support of Anelka in spite of the overwhelming evidence against him on the quenelle business, pointless near-trolling of other posters, and accusatory (and completely inaccurate) whining from you from beginning to end on this thread. And you never even answered one of the many points I rasied for you here, either, not to mention the points raised by other Urbz here to you. You're not very good at this discussion thing, are you?

So there we have it: DexterTCN, gone and very much forgotten. Goodbye then, chief.

 

[Teaboy]

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport 6m
Nicolas Anelka’s FA charge hearing into his ‘quenelle’ gesture not expected to begin until end of Feb to give his legal team time to prepare

Ego wins over as expected. He'll spend a small fortune now and end up with a 10 game ban.

 

[DotCommunist]

Ego wins over as expected. He'll spend a small fortune now and end up with a 10 game ban.

and a lengthy examination of what the gesture means in a hearing should put to bed this nonsense about its just being an up yours.

 

[Teaboy]

and a lengthy examination of what the gesture means in a hearing should put to bed this nonsense about its just being an up yours.

Can you imagine just how horrible that hearing is going to be. Highly paid briefs agonising over every tiny detail of what the gesture could mean and what it means in France. I don't envy the FA panel who are going to have to sit through this one.

Nah he'll get the full racist foreigner 10 game ban, he'd get less if he was English a la John Terry.

 

[cesare]

Ego wins over as expected. He'll spend a small fortune now and end up with a 10 game ban.

Ego and possibly the ideological point too

 

[Pickman's model]

Nah he'll get the full racist foreigner 10 game ban, he'd get less if he was English a la John Terry.

how droll.

 

[butchersapron]

and a lengthy examination of what the gesture means in a hearing should put to bed this nonsense about its just being an up yours.

Not for the people who want to use it and see it an anti-establishment (and by extension their participation in anti-semitism as anti-establishment). For them it will cement this idea.

 

[butchersapron]

Can you imagine just how horrible that hearing is going to be. Highly paid briefs agonising over every tiny detail of what the gesture could mean and what it means in France. I don't envy the FA panel who are going to have to sit through this one.

Nah he'll get the full racist foreigner 10 game ban, he'd get less if he was English a la John Terry.

Horrible? It'll be hilarious. Not that we'll really know about it until it's finished.

 

[cesare]

Not for the people who want to use it and see it an anti-establishment (and by extension their participation in anti-semitism as anti-establishment). For them it will cement this idea.

Exactly - it's a test case in order to try and gain traction for its future use

 

[Teaboy]

Horrible? It'll be hilarious. Not that we'll really know about it until it's finished.

We clearly have a different idea of fun, I imagine just being in the room would sap the will to live straight from you. It'll be like a 2 week long Dwyer thread but without the option of punching your monitor.

 

[butchersapron]

Exactly - it's a test case in order to try and gain traction for its future use

From the anti-semitics side i can see why they might think that- but if they do, they've totally misjudged this country and the possibility of this idiocy ever catching on here.

 

[Pickman's model]

We clearly have a different idea of fun, I imagine just being in the room would sap the will to live straight from you. It'll be like a 2 week long Dwyer thread but without the option of punching your monitor.

if you were in the room you'd have the chance of punching anelka though.

 

[cesare]

We clearly have a different idea of fun, I imagine just being in the room would sap the will to live straight from you. It'll be like a 2 week long Dwyer thread but without the option of punching your monitor.

It'll be more like a race discrimination employment tribunal than that.

 

[frogwoman]

From the anti-semitics side i can see why they might think that- but if they do, they've totally misjudged this country and the possibility of this idiocy ever catching on here.

agreed, i don't think anti-semitism will ever become a massive thing over here.

 

[frogwoman]

I also think part of the reason why some anti-semites are anti-semites in the UK is BECAUSE it's unpopular.

 

[Pickman's model]

agreed, i don't think anti-semitism will ever become a massive thing over here.

never say never

it's been quite large in the past

 

[frogwoman]

never say never

oh yeah don't get me wrong it is a problem.

i just don't think it's gonna be likely to be something popular with the public.

 

[cesare]

agreed, i don't think anti-semitism will ever become a massive thing over here.

I thought you were concerned about how much of it you're seeing at the moment, including via the conspiraloons who have gained some traction via occupy?

 

[frogwoman]

I thought you were concerned about how much of it you're seeing at the moment, including via the conspiraloons who have gained some traction via occupy?

I am actually a bit worried about it yeah because I don't think it's ever been this bad (that i remember) and yep i do think that it's increased quite a bit with things like conspiraloons etc, especially in terms of people into like "alternative" stuff.

However i don't think that it's ever gonna be a "mainstream" thing.

I hope not anyway.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am actually a bit worried about it yeah because I don't think it's ever been this bad.
However i don't think that it's ever gonna be a "mainstream" thing.

I hope not anyway.

there was something of a spike in anti-semitism when the king david's hotel was blown up and the sergeants hanged, and of course there was the 1190 massacre of jews at york. rather worse than seen atm.

 

[frogwoman]

I thought you were concerned about how much of it you're seeing at the moment, including via the conspiraloons who have gained some traction via occupy?

Yeah mate I am quite worried about it, I just can't see it becoming popular with ordinary people, I do worry how it's infected various things though especially on the left and some other stuff. I really really hope not anyway.

 

[frogwoman]

there was something of a spike in anti-semitism when the king david's hotel was blown up and the sergeants hanged, and of course there was the 1190 massacre of jews at york. rather worse than seen atm.

yeah, see my edit.

 

[cesare]

I am actually a bit worried about it yeah because I don't think it's ever been this bad (that i remember) and yep i do think that it's increased quite a bit with things like conspiraloons etc, especially in terms of people into like "alternative" stuff.

However i don't think that it's ever gonna be a "mainstream" thing.

I hope not anyway.

The whole point of the quenelle is to hide/normalise the anti-semitism in the form of a popularist "anti-establishment" gesture.