Anelka's quenelle
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Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Although I do occasionally have a diamond-cutter.
so did Daniel by the sounds of it
http://trueslant.com/nealungerleide...d-for-pretending-to-be-jewish-for-casual-sex/
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Doesn't surprise me. Everyone knows the Irish have natural rhythm.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Are you really trying to say Anelka was completely ignorant of the background of this gesture? Why? It's been shown over and over again that such a claim simply does not stand up.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Needed a truck for his kaftans, though.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
more like a light van, but we wont quibble . Hes a fine figure of a man . And the important thing is he doesnt sound fat .
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
I just forgot, Demis has been extremely popular in Israel for many years .
no. I was merely being a bit flippant on pointing out your choice of words ie "it has been proved ON THIS THREAD..."
Lemon Eddy
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You absolute, utter and abject prick.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
This one certainly did. Fair play to him.
if you look closely that looks like a Quenelle
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Doing what they were told to do, I'd imagine.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
They were ordered to do that by Chamberlain's Foreign Office as part of the government's appeasement policy.
Why are you seeking to draw paralells with the focus of this thread?
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
zey were only following orderz , ja ?
SpineyNorman
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The substance of your post was speculation about why various people might oppose capitalism, and what they might want to put in its place.
I just don't think people's motives are so clearly identifiable, except in practice. And any kind of revolutionary practice will utterly transform people's motives, aims, and possibilities, so there's little point in speculating about them beforehand.
That's the lesson of history.
Furthermore, although you call yourself an anti-capitalist, you readily admit that you'd choose capitalism over a wide variety of alternatives. That tells me that you do not understand what capitalism is or what it does.
And finally, most probably related to the above, you have absolutely NO STRATEGY WHATSOEVER for actually bringing capitalism to an end. Which you must admit is a rather serious deficiency in an anti-capitalist.
And so while I'm most awfully sorry to outrage your decency:
You're losing your touch phil, way too obvious.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Well...ja, I suppose.
They were doing what their employers told them to do. Interesting account here, that places as much blame on the FA as the FO.
But like I said above, i don't quite see what useful paralells can be drawn with Anelka's gesture.
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SpineyNorman
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Which is precisely why he's doing it. Doesn't believe a word of what he posts here.
What's your take on phil, spiney? I think he's an ok guy & either way I'll make my own mind up, but you've always come over as a sensible guy - What's your take on him.
SpineyNorman
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I think he's probably not such a bad sort - out there in the real world I imagine I'd probably enjoy having a pint with him. But I think he sees posting on here as a kind of sport, with winding people up as his objective - which is pretty funny when appropriate, I've had drink come out of my nose laughing at some of the stuff he posts. But there's a time and a place for that kind of stuff IMO and it's not appropriate with subjects like antisemitism but he doesn't seem to be sensitive to that kind of thing and it makes him come across as a bit of a nob at times.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I think Phil is just a windup merchant tbh. I'm not really upset by anything he posts, he sees it as a game. It's a bit irritating but fairly harmless, as far as antisemitism goes I'm more upset by people who actually believe it or carry water for those who do.
Surely Poes law applies to the stuff he comes out with though froggy?
Whilst your motives are undoubtedly pure and intentions unquestionably noble, introducing the uninitiated to the sound of the bam in such a manner could have unforeseen consequences popping and locking of body joints or in extreme circumstances a sudden desire to confess a love of Demis Rousous, caution must be excercised when walking the path of Peace,Unity,Love and Having Fun.
i'd recommend/namecheck 80 blocks from tiffany's, the 70s doccumentary about new york and the Savage Nomads
80 Blocks From Tiffany's
Whilst your motives are undoubtedly pure and intentions unquestionably noble, introducing the uninitiated to the sound of the bam in such a manner could have unforeseen consequences popping and locking of body joints or in extreme circumstances a sudden desire to confess a love of Demis Rousous, caution must be excercised when walking the path of Peace,Unity,Love and Having Fun.
i'd recommend/namecheck 80 blocks from tiffany's, the 70s doccumentary about new york and the Savage Nomads
80 Blocks From Tiffany's
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and whatever you do don't show him this http://www.whosampled.com/Demis-Roussos/sampled/
It was a two stage transition mate a technological generation gap and change of emphasis between MC and DJ that marked the transition between old school and new school
first part was the arrival of drum machines and samplers onto the high street market which were cheaper and thus more accessible to aspiring hip hop musicians than the still very expensive synths associated with electro.
second was more complex, initially the DJ was the guy people went to the block to see perform,the mc was more a hype man there to encourage audience participation with call backs and a vocal style that owed a lot to the musical heritage of Be-bop and scat. As the role of the MC developed and they became more acknowledged performers then the music changed to reflect that.The tipping point was the MC battle between busy bee Starski and Kool Moe Dee. Where as Starski riffed over the top of the beats in traditional old school style Kool Moe Dee delivered his verse in a stacatto that complimented music with much more emphasis on the base,best exemplified here
Electro never really died though,the producers moved into other strains of the dance genre,Such as Go-Go retained a heavy funk/electro influence,washingtons Newcleuss released some good stuff well after the electro bubble had supposedly burst.
early chicago house,acid and garage (of the mid eighties chip e variety) hip house,and techno.
Arthur baker who produced planet rock and had his own sucess with Breakers revenge moved into remixing mainstream pop acts such as hall and oates before mentoring Neenah Cherry's bufflo stance.
theres a good interview with Cybotron here http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2013/10/read-brief-history-detroit-elect
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You're wrong.
This is what I think.
Capitalism (I prefer the term "usury" but let's not quibble here) is quite clearly the most voracious, evil and destructive power the world has ever seen. It has already destroyed most indigenous cultures and societies, most of the environment, most of Western culture and most of the Western psyche. Unless it is stopped very soon it is obviously going to destroy the entire world.
Who you gonna call? The hard Left, that's who. The radical Left. After all they are supposed to be the anti-capitalists right?
So I come on here to see what ideas the hard Left might have on the subject. What do I find? Do I find any strategy for putting an end to capitalism?
Hell no. Shit no. Fuck no. I find people chasing after "fascists," and inventing them when they can't find them (which is most of the time). I find people chasing after "criminals," which for some reason I thought was the function of the police, who for some reason I thought Leftists might not wish to emulate.
Sorry but to me it looks like silly boys getting their rocks off by having punch-ups with other silly boys who are essentially indistinguishable from themselves in class, attitude, aspiration and--yes--politics. It looks silly.
I think the reason for this silliness is that your thinking is trapped in an outmoded metaphor. And that's all the Left/Right split ever was: a metaphor. It had some valence in the C19th and early C20th. It has none now. It ought to be abandoned. It prevents people from seeing what is really important, thus perpetuating capitalism by depriving it of any effective opposition.
From your comments I gather that you feel I have spoken too bluntly, thus giving offence to what you call "decent people." If that's true, I'm sincerely sorry. That was not my intention. But you didn't seem like the sort of fellow to be so easily offended. So I crave your indulgence one last time, for this encapsulates my message better than words alone:
What! Prof the Academia is going to your head- you are wrong.
Tell me why dude.