Anelka's quenelle

[Wilf]

Nasri's at it too

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...icture-emerges-manchester-citys-samir-6455082

M.E.N. Sport understands Nasri was unaware of any anti-Semitic connotations behind the sign and is thought to be considering clarifying his actions on Twitter

'Thought to be considering going on twitter' - fucking hell, he's decisive. Joey Barton would be there like a shot.

 

[butchersapron]

Interesting use of thought in that bit. I've been publicly associated with an anti-semitic gesture. Let me ponder clarification.

 

[butchersapron]

I think that there's a good chance Anelka actually is anti-semitic. How else do you end up with someone like this as your comrade? Are we not going to apply the di canio laws to him because is black? Because he is muslim? On what grounds won't we?

 

[butchersapron]

Also, Anelka, what a wasted career.

 

[Wilf]

Have a feeling this 'gesture' might get picked up by a few of the fans when spurs are the opposition. Wonder if plod/ the clubs/other fans will react?

 

[Favelado]

There's not much wriggle room here. They all knew what they were doing and they can all get the book thrown at them.

 

[T & P]

Have a feeling this 'gesture' might get picked up by a few of the fans when spurs are the opposition. Wonder if plod/ the clubs/other fans will react?

Though by the nature of the salute only those fans on the very front row would be spotted by opposition fans, as the arms of all those behind would be obscured. Could happen a bit more outside the ground, I guess...

 

[Wilf]

There's not much wriggle room here. They all knew what they were doing and they can all get the book thrown at them.

Yep, though I have a feeling Anelka will get more due to it being on the pitch.

 

[butchersapron]

Are west ham jewish owned?

 

[Wilf]

There's not much wriggle room here. They all knew what they were doing and they can all get the book thrown at them.

That really is the bottom line on this - in football and for those looking for wriggle room on urban.

 

[butchersapron]

Have a feeling this 'gesture' might get picked up by a few of the fans when spurs are the opposition. Wonder if plod/ the clubs/other fans will react?

I can't see it. Ridiculous continental shit.

 

[Pickman's model]

I can't see it. Ridiculous continental shit.

yeh, you'd never get british people picking up on ridiculous continental shit



hang on a minute...

 

[Wilf]

I can't see it. Ridiculous continental shit.

Certainly can't see mass 'quenelling', but it adds a little twist for the tiny number who do such shit anyway. Don't worry, I'm not going to be going on about footballers being 'role models'.

 

[Wilf]

Simon Hughes?

 

[Pickman's model]

Simon Hughes?

nearly. john tyndall.

 

[Favelado]

Simon Hughes?

That by-election wasn't far off at times.

 

[Pickman's model]

That by-election wasn't far off at times.

yeh it wasn't far off in january 1983. but it's a great distance away now.

 

[revol68]

Always hilarious seeing lefties get confused when confronted with a far right that talks up its anti establishment and supports "oppressed nations" like the Palestinians. Maybe its because much of the left has essentially bought into crude anti imperialism and apologism for oppressed nationalisms.

 

[Wilf]

I'm sure it was something innocent, maybe an expression of support for Julian Assange.

 

[tommers]

Are west ham jewish owned?

David gold is, certainly.

 

[frogwoman]

What revol said. This shit is so fucking depressing. And of course someone can still be anti semitic if they're Muslim, someone can be islamophobic if they're Jewish so why is the reverse hard to believe.

 

[Buckaroo]

Always hilarious seeing lefties get confused when confronted with a far right that talks up its anti establishment and supports "oppressed nations" like the Palestinians. Maybe its because much of the left has essentially bought into crude anti imperialism and apologism for oppressed nationalisms.

So this quenelle gesture is an anti-establishment thing or an anti-Semitic thing or what?

 

[revol68]

It's what you get when you give up on universalism in favour of relativist apologetics for a series of oppressed groups with their own distinct struggle.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

So this quenelle gesture is an anti-establishment thing or an anti-Semitic thing or what?

The Joooz are the establishment, stupid. [/dwyer]

 

[frogwoman]

I have experienced anti semitic comments in the past from Muslim people, unfortunately nobody is immune from that kind of stupidity. I've also heard anti Muslim and homophobic shit from Jews, being from a group that gets persecuted doesn't mean you can't be a cunt. The alignment with the far right and the left that seems to be going on is quite scary.

 

[Buckaroo]

It's what you get when you give up on universalism in favour of relativist apologetics for a series of oppressed groups with their own distinct struggle.

But who are you talking about, confused lefties here?

 

[butchersapron]

But who are you talking about, confused lefties here?

Dexter and Liam i think, the person in the example froggy gave and any other. Liam left himself some wriggle room. Not enough.

 

[elbows]

Are west ham jewish owned?

26th November 2012:

West Ham's Jewish co-chairman David Gold says the club will have a "zero tolerance" approach to any supporters found to have made anti-Semitic taunts.

Two Hammers fans have accepted a police caution, and one of them has been given a lifetime ban from matches for gestures made at Tottenham on Sunday.

The West Ham chief's great grandfather committed suicide after abusive taunts.

Gold said: "We have a clear stance towards any kind of discriminatory behaviour - it will not be tolerated."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20505152

 

[butchersapron]

26th November 2012:



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20505152

Ta, so a massive one of these things.

 

[goldenecitrone]

He's promised not to do it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25550382