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DexterTCN said:
The emptiest drums make the loudest noise.
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I agree.
Dwyer is the emptiest drum.

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btw you should retract that 'hates Jews' bit.

But you most likely won't, that's the opinion I've formed of you from reading your posts.
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Have you retracted where you accused me of saying that you'd called an Urbanite a Nazi?

Nah, because you're a hypocrite, and your opinion isn't worth a drip of dogpiss.
 
Casually Red said:
or an attention seeker, self publicist, professional controversialist who without doubt when it suits him would sell his associates from whatever quarter down the river in a heartbeat .
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His associates, maybe. His convictions? I doubt it.
Do you not think that quantifying him primarily as an "attention seeker" serves to play down or even excuse his anti-Semitism in an "honest guv, he woz only doing it to get attention" kind of way?

I'd hate to think that you're making yourself a useful idiot for a wanker because you don't realise that your language could be taken as excusing him.
 
ViolentPanda said:
His associates, maybe. His convictions? I doubt it.
Do you not think that quantifying him primarily as an "attention seeker" serves to play down or even excuse his anti-Semitism in an "honest guv, he woz only doing it to get attention" kind of way?

I'd hate to think that you're making yourself a useful idiot for a wanker because you don't realise that your language could be taken as excusing him.
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id already called him a prick, anti jewish, anti semitic, a prick, nasty, ...please stop insisting on writing my posts for me thanks .

my intervention on the thread was solely to raise question about camus . My wariness was justified .
 
ViolentPanda said:
his anti-Semitism
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Evidence? Does he call himself an anti-semite?

As a matter of policy, I tend to doubt allegations of anti-semitism against people who deny being anti-semites.

The whole point of anti-semitism is to win public support by opportunist means. History offers plenty of examples of successful, overt anti-semites, who do not need to disguise their views. Is there a precedent for covert anti-semitism? I think not.

Not that it's impossible of course. But one must examine the agenda of those who level the charge etc.
 
where to said:
I want to know if there is anyone on this thread who does not consider him a rancid, anti-Semitic scumbag basically.
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He's either an anti-Semite, or an extremely stupid "useful idiot" for anti-Semites. Either way he's promoted anti-Semitism, so fuck him, the horse he rode in on, and the stable that sheltered the horse!
 
phildwyer said:
Evidence? Does he call himself an anti-semite?

As a matter of policy, I tend to doubt allegations of anti-semitism against people who deny being anti-semites.

The whole point of anti-semitism is to win public support by opportunist means. History offers plenty of examples of successful, overt anti-semites, who do not need to disguise their views. Is there a precedent for covert anti-semitism? I think not.

Not that it's impossible of course. But one must examine the agenda of those who level the charge etc.
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fuck off, dwyer.
 
Casually Red said:
id already called him a prick, anti jewish, anti semitic, a prick, nasty, ...please stop insisting on writing my posts for me thanks .
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All I did was point out how your post might be read. The conent and format is your problem, not mine.

my intervention on the thread was solely to raise question about camus . My wariness was justified .
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So you say. Personally, I'm of the opinion you're being disingenuous. Why? Because the above isn't how you normally operate, is it?
Wariness? Get away to fuck! :D
 
frogwoman said:
Thought it was Chelsea with the major fash following, although I do know a Chelsea fan who is a socialist
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Most people just tend to support the football team their dad supports. The notion that there is a relationship between something as arbritary as that and political afflilations is problematic for a number of reasons; but such notions does assist branding...
 
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All I did was point out how your post might be read. The conent and format is your problem, not mine.
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what do you mean ? I havent said a single positive thing about either anelka or his mate . Not one . Everything Ive said about him has been critical, openly insulting him . And Ive clearly pointed out his mate is definitely anti semitic .


So you say. Personally, I'm of the opinion you're being disingenuous. Why? Because the above isn't how you normally operate, is it?
Wariness? Get away to fuck! :D
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what the fucks this even about ?
 
phildwyer said:
Evidence? Does he call himself an anti-semite?

As a matter of policy, I tend to doubt allegations of anti-semitism against people who deny being anti-semites.

The whole point of anti-semitism is to win public support by opportunist means. History offers plenty of examples of successful, overt anti-semites, who do not need to disguise their views. Is there a precedent for covert anti-semitism? I think not.

Not that it's impossible of course. But one must examine the agenda of those who level the charge etc.
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youve obviously never heard of Peter Irving then

Or Winston Churchill
 
Casually Red said:
what do you mean ? I havent said a single positive thing about either anelka or his mate . Not one . Everything Ive said about him has been critical, openly insulting him . And Ive clearly pointed out his mate is definitely anti semitic .
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I'll make it simple.
You refer to him as an "attention seeker".
My point is that by referring to him primarily as an attention seeker, some people might take your post as indicating a preference for him to be seen primarily as an attention seeker, rather than as an anti-Semite.

Simple enough?


what the fucks this even about ?
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I think you'll find it's me saying "that CR, he's got a history of being disingenuous".
 
phildwyer said:
True, you have the advantage of me there sir.



Him I do know. If he was an anti-semite then so was everybody else. Which renders the term meaningless and robs it of its force.
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Peter Irving is a notable holocaust denier who claims to be an historian and not a jew hater . Winston Churchill was a rabid anti semite , unlike everyone else .
 
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