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Andy Gray: "Make Beckham England manager"

Nonsense. Hansen always comes out with this shit - 'you can't teach that', 'this group don't need coaching'. Bollocks. You may as well say 'this toddler seems smart, why bother sending him to school'.

Are you Alan Hansen?

This same group has failed with four different coaches.
 
This same group has failed with four different coaches.

I have to confess I thought you were talking about Argentina :oops:

Well I'd agree that the squad just isn't good enough but clearly a good coach = better chance.

Capello is clearly a good coach fwiw. Then again, his greatest successes came with a club that were fixing games... but seriously, he is a good coach. Whilst I would find it amusing if he walked, I don't think England will get anybody better.
 
I hope he's doing his coaching badges to be honest. He'll outshine the other prima donnas and maybe they can just get on with learning to play football again....
 
I have to confess I thought you were talking about Argentina :oops:

Well I'd agree that the squad just isn't good enough but clearly a good coach = better chance.

Capello is clearly a good coach fwiw. Then again, his greatest successes came with a club that were fixing games... but seriously, he is a good coach. Whilst I would find it amusing if he walked, I don't think England will get anybody better.

he's not going to walk when there's a twelve million pound payoff for sitting around... the FA need to sack him, as they can't sack themselves or the players.

Incidentally, the EURO 2004 team that went out to Portugal
James, Gary Neville, Terry, Campbell, Ashley Cole, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard (Hargreaves 81), Scholes (Phil Neville 57), Owen, Rooney (Vassell 27).

Basically the same team as yesterday, but with inferior replacements for Neville, Campbell, Beckham, Scholes and Owen.
 
he's not going to walk when there's a twelve million pound payoff for sitting around... the FA need to sack him, as they can't sack themselves or the players.

Incidentally, the EURO 2004 team that went out to Portugal
James, Gary Neville, Terry, Campbell, Ashley Cole, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard (Hargreaves 81), Scholes (Phil Neville 57), Owen, Rooney (Vassell 27).

Basically the same team as yesterday, but with inferior replacements for Neville, Campbell, Beckham, Scholes and Owen.

I'm not trying to be all 'I told you so' but I would hazard a guess that England's lack of success isn't helped by a relatively small pool of players to choose from, all things considered. There simply isn't the depth that there should be.
 
I'm not trying to be all 'I told you so' but I would hazard a guess that England's lack of success isn't helped by a relatively small pool of players to choose from, all things considered. There simply isn't the depth that there should be.

FWIW, I still think you're wrong about the roots of the problem - or at least outdated.
 
I've been very impressed with Alan Shearer's analysis for the BBC this tournament, I'd prefer to see him as England manager one day. Obviously he'd need to gain more managerial experience and prove himself first. He seems pretty straight-talking and has all his coaching badges already. Admittedly his record at Newcastle was poor, but they had big problems that season and were already as good as relegated by the time he stepped in.
 
I've been very impressed with Alan Shearer's analysis for the BBC this tournament, I'd prefer to see him as England manager one day. Obviously he'd need to gain more managerial experience and prove himself first. He seems pretty straight-talking and has all his coaching badges already. Admittedly his record at Newcastle was poor, but they had big problems that season and were already as good as relegated by the time he stepped in.

If it's about analysis, surely you'd choose baby Redknapp....
 
Anyone not willing to represent England and then make a career out of criticising people who do play for and manage England is, by default, a cunt of epic proportions. Which is what Shearer is.

It would be impossible to imagine arrogance and conceit on that scale if it wasn't smiling at us on the tv most evenings. Really, who the fuck does he think he is?
 
Maradonna's completely winging it....you don't need to manage Messi, Aguero, Higuain and Tevez they know what to do already. He's tactically got it wrong not having Cambiasso or Milito in the side.

At some point his luck will run out. Sure the players seems to love playing for him. That will get him so far.

Beckham isn't as universally liked IMO - his presence was a bad decision, a reminder of past failures.

Maradonna's looking like a great manager.

But he's not very clever.

Beckhams also not very clever.

Therefore he would make a great manager.


Or.....
 
If it's about analysis, surely you'd choose baby Redknapp....

I'd be interested to see him have a go at management actually.

Though Redknapp Jnr doesn't seem to carry an air of authority, or have the leadership qualities that Shearer does imo.
 
I'd be interested to see him have a go at management actually.

Though Redknapp Jnr doesn't seem to carry an air of authority, or have the leadership qualities that Shearer does imo.

Shearers a bit of a cunt though, i think baby Rednapp has actually carried himself rather well throughout his critic career....
 
I would like to see a team of two take over the England manager job. Two managers of equal status who have to work together as a team. I suggest Harry Rednapp and the USA coach Bob Bradley.
 
Anyone not willing to represent England and then make a career out of criticising people who do play for and manage England is, by default, a cunt of epic proportions. Which is what Shearer is.

It would be impossible to imagine arrogance and conceit on that scale if it wasn't smiling at us on the tv most evenings. Really, who the fuck does he think he is?

I seem to remember Shearer playing plenty of games for England. :confused:

It's his job to be critical tbf, but I've seen him giving plenty of credit where it's due.

And arrogance doesn't make you a good manager ? Try telling that to "the special one" or Cloughie. ;)

Personally I think he'd strike a good balance between not taking any bullshit from the egos, yet also not alienating them in the way that Capello seems to have done.

I've had the pleasure of meeting Shearer a few times, he's very down to earth, yet has quite a presence. I'm pretty sure that this next generation of players would have a lot of respect for the guy and what he achieved, most of them probably had posters of him on their walls when growing up etc.
 
Hodgeson is the serious choice - has managed at international Level IIRC - more of a bobby Robson type of manager, could do well with Ingerland over a decent tenure ..and I dont want him to go the to Scouse red filth and make them decent again
 
What seem to be happening with maradonna and argentina is that hes like some shamen/cheerleader - he has god like status amongst the players and his enthusiasm and charisma is motivating the attacking players especailly to express themselves and excell. Argentina ooze confidence, fearlessness, energy and a sheer delight in their football - and thats surely down to maradonna - it mirrors exactly how he played himself.

I think interantional management is different from club management in that you have a limited time with the players - this means that you need simple, easily understood tactics which allow the players to quickly become a cohesive unit. (Exactly not like England ).
Complex, detailed tactical instructions and drills are less likely to work.

So simple - but flexible - tactics, a charmismatic leader and talented players will give you a team that can win international tournaments.
 
I think Beckhams financial advisors would urge him to stay well away from the train wreck of England ....

capello might get a £12m payoff, Beckham's financial advisors who love a slice of that, the FA have proved to be hopeless negotiators with Managers, Sven got millions as well .

I'd have Hodgson, and keep Pearce, Pearce to take over in a few years
 
tbh, we should employ an Englishman. And FIFA should state that all countries' coaches should meet the same selection criteria as the players. It's such a large part of what makes a team successful, that it's cheating really to pay a foreigner to be your coach. World cups should be a test a nation's ability to produce good football teams, not a test of their ability to pay for assistance.

I like Hodgson, think he's a good manager and good man. If he'd take, I'd give it to him. Then we should all get off the manager's back for the foreseeable future, and accept that we're "in a transitional phase" or whatever.
 
Yep the England job could cause irreperable damage to "Brand Beckham" - and I think he'll steer well clear. Aside from the obvious issues of not having any coaching badges or experience - sitting on a bench looking moody doesn't count.
 
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