...and Yemen!
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butchersapron
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That opposition coalition has been working to get inside the regime for a long time - that they feel pressured to reject today what they were previously working for could be a very significant indication of the pressure they're under from non official oppositions.
butchersapron
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elbows
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Except that he's not - neither of them want any instability in that region whatsoever - and most ceratinly not in those countries that are the bulwark of their strategic plans, Yemen being one of the central ones.
Please don't start your oh so provocative stuff on these threads.
Please don't start your oh so provocative stuff on these threads.
elbows
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Of course, but the key is to know which ones they are and which they arent. Or at least which ones were of their own making and which they have only dived into at the last minute in order to respond to events.
Fabulously stable region, the middle east...
And he said "supervised by" but not "controlled by"
Sadly I have neither the time, nor the opposition for a decent argument about what is a very complex subject with many contributing factors.
elbows
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Also said orchestrated by Tel Aviv, which is very silly indeed, this stuff is the last thing Israel want. They'd love it to happen in Iran, Syria and Gaza, and they would like Lebanon to be different to how it actually is, but Yemen? Come off it.
elbows
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But neither the US or Israel started this storm, they didnt set themselves on fire in Tunisia and they certainly were not comfortable with events in Egypt.
Who was comfortable with event in Egypt? Only sadists.
Israel couldn't give a stuff about oil or democracy... their main interest is themselves. However, the removal of dictatorial regimes in the region suits them long-term. Equally it's always been in the long-term interests of the west and the US to have ostensibly democratic governments in key middle eastern countries. Primarily for access to oil, but also for other strategic reasons. There are legions of western "advisors" in many of these regimes and there will still be legions of advisors after they have elected governments.
The seasons may change but Washington will still have its fingers in everyone elses pie.
Israel couldn't give a stuff about oil or democracy... their main interest is themselves. However, the removal of dictatorial regimes in the region suits them long-term. Equally it's always been in the long-term interests of the west and the US to have ostensibly democratic governments in key middle eastern countries. Primarily for access to oil, but also for other strategic reasons. There are legions of western "advisors" in many of these regimes and there will still be legions of advisors after they have elected governments.
The seasons may change but Washington will still have its fingers in everyone elses pie.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Shit! How long has this been going on?
How long has this been goin' on?
How long has this been goin' on?
Well, your friends with their fancy persuasions
Don' t admit that it ' s part of a scheme ,
But I can 't help but have my suspicions
'Cause I ain 't quite as dumb as I seem.
And you said you were never intendin'
To break up our scene in this way,
But there ain' t any use in pretendin',
It could happen to us any day.
How long has this been goin' on ?
How long has this been goin' on ?
How long has this been goin' on?
Well, your friends with their fancy persuasions
Don' t admit that it ' s part of a scheme ,
But I can 't help but have my suspicions
'Cause I ain 't quite as dumb as I seem.
And you said you were never intendin'
To break up our scene in this way,
But there ain' t any use in pretendin',
It could happen to us any day.
How long has this been goin' on ?
How long has this been goin' on ?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
yetman hold his own, methinks....
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
It's not so much that, more that some people have lost their usual sense of cricitcal balance in the face of such exciting events.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I'd say the latter is the case with just about every one of these arab uprisings.They've completely caught them by surprise,which is why Obama floundered so badly
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
which is why "thewests" main arab allies were/are Mubarak,Ben Ali, House Of Saud....
Yes. That is why. That's what the legions of advisors are for. And they will be there for whoever is democratically elected as long as they have their "input" on who it is. Which is kinda the point.
Why have an ally when you can have an employee?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can you point out the advisors on the opposition side please.
What opposition?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
For starters the opposition coalition. Make your argument true.
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