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Americans: why don't you use kettles?

SpookyFrank said:
Tautological, try again.
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Not at all. Barbecueing is different from grilling as grilling is fast and uses low smoke fuel whereas barbecuing is slow over high smoke fuel. The 'grill' in 'barbecue grill' is a noun referring to the apparatus itself. Of course this means a gas barbecue isn't really a barbecue but I'm alright with that. A gas barbecue is really just an outdoor grill.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
A grill pan goes on top of the stove and is used to grill foods much as you'd grill food outdoors.
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But it's not like you'd grill food outdoors is it? Because in your 'grill pan' the heat is being transferred to the food by conduction, by direct contact between the food and the heat source, whilst on your BBQ the heat is transferred by radiation. If you were to put your food in a 'broiler pan' and put it in the 'broiler' then that would be the same as grilling it outside on a BBQ, because in both cases you're using radiant heat.

It follows that what you call a broiler is in fact a grill, because it grills food, and the thing that goes in that grill is called a grill pan for the same reason.
 
maomao said:
Not at all. Barbecueing is different from grilling as grilling is fast and uses low smoke fuel whereas barbecuing is slow over high smoke fuel. Of course this means a gas barbecue isn't really a barbecue but I'm alright with that. A gas barbecue is really just an outdoor grill.
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Barbecuing is a subcategory of grilling, for reasons I've already explained.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
That is a broiler pan. A grill pan goes on top of the stove and is used to grill foods much as you'd grill food outdoors.
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We're going to need a picture of what you're calling a 'grill pan' here, because if it were used like you'd grill foods outside on a bbq grill, there would be no metal/whatever other than a grille (bars with holes between them, used to keep the food off the heat source but allow the fats to drip through and the heat source to reach the food) between your hob and the food, which would mean all your fat and grease is dripping directly onto your hob. That seems awfully messy. If there is some sort of metal/whatever underneath the grille, it is forming a barrier between the grille/food and the heat source, and therefore is not the same process as using your bbq grill outside.

edit: or in other words, what frank said.
 
andysays said:
I read the first page and then skipped to the current one, so apologies if this has been covered, but
  1. what the fuck is a mosquito sanctuary :confused: and
  2. why the double fuck would anyone want to spend a holiday in one :eek:
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I've no idea - but I did wonder at the time. :)
 
Vintage Paw said:
We're going to need a picture of what you're calling a 'grill pan' here, because if it were used like you'd grill foods outside on a bbq grill, there would be no metal/whatever other than a grille (bars with holes between them, used to keep the food off the heat source but allow the fats to drip through and the heat source to reach the food) between your hob and the food, which would mean all your fat and grease is dripping directly onto your hob. That seems awfully messy. If there is some sort of metal/whatever underneath the grille, it is forming a barrier between the grille/food and the heat source, and therefore is not the same process as using your bbq grill outside.
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What she calls a grill pan is just a skillet with ridges in it.
 
Vintage Paw said:
We're going to need a picture of what you're calling a 'grill pan' here, because if it were used like you'd grill foods outside on a bbq grill, there would be no metal/whatever other than a grille (bars with holes between them, used to keep the food off the heat source but allow the fats to drip through and the heat source to reach the food) between your hob and the food, which would mean all your fat and grease is dripping directly onto your hob. That seems awfully messy. If there is some sort of metal/whatever underneath the grille, it is forming a barrier between the grille/food and the heat source, and therefore is not the same process as using your bbq grill outside.
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Now we're getting to the details of the issue at long last. :thumbs:
 
SpookyFrank said:
If a barbecue is a type of grill, then the phrase 'barbecue grill' is redundant.
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You mean the word 'grill' is redundant in the phrase 'barbecue grill' but it is only if you accept the word 'barbecue' as a noun meaning a type of grill as well as a style of grilling.
 
SpookyFrank said:
If a barbecue is a type of grill, then the phrase 'barbecue grill' is redundant.
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Well, I'm not so certain.

High heeled shoes are a subcategory of shoe, but people often call them high heeled shoes. They can also be referred to as high heels, but a person wouldn't be wrong if they called them high heeled shoes. They would however sound right daft if they called them high heels shoes.

It depends on context, if you're going to be trying to explain to someone that you're referring specifically to a barbecue grill, as opposed to a gas or electric grill, you might have reason to say "a barbecue grill."
 
Vintage Paw said:
Well, I'm not so certain.

High heeled shoes are a subcategory of shoe, but people often call them high heeled shoes. They can also be referred to as high heels, but a person wouldn't be wrong if they called them high heeled shoes. They would however sound right daft if they called them high heels shoes.
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I call them 'an expensive way to give yourself arthritis' but that's just me.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
That is a broiler pan. A grill pan goes on top of the stove and is used to grill foods much as you'd grill food outdoors. Our names are perfectly simple and logical: you fry with a fry pan, you grill with a grill pan, you sauté with a sauté pan, and you broil with a broil pan.
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I a actually think you make perfect sense, it's just the word broiling is alien to British ears and makes us think of something completely different to what it is.
Coz it sounds so much like "boiling".
 
andysays said:
I read the first page and then skipped to the current one, so apologies if this has been covered, but
  1. what the fuck is a mosquito sanctuary :confused: and
  2. why the double fuck would anyone want to spend a holiday in one :eek:
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I'm guessing - Florida

and if I'm correct in the State then why holiday there:-

  1. Sonny's pit barbecue:thumbs:
  2. Gainsville Drag Strip:thumbs:
  3. Don Garlits Drag Racing Museum:thumbs:
  4. Black Angus's restaurant - Kissimmee:thumbs::thumbs:
  5. Some mouse theme park:eek:
  6. An active swimming pool thing:facepalm:
  7. Something to do with a film studio:rolleyes:
 
High Voltage said:
I'm guessing - Florida

and if I'm correct in the State then why holiday there:-

  1. Sonny's pit barbecue:thumbs:
  2. Gainsville Drag Strip:thumbs:
  3. Don Garlits Drag Racing Museum:thumbs:
  4. Black Angus's restaurant - Kissimmee:thumbs::thumbs:
  5. Some mouse theme park:eek:
  6. An active swimming pool thing:facepalm:
  7. Something to do with a film studio:rolleyes:
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Is there now a Harry Potter World theme park in Florida?
 
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