if it walks like a duck..
Alex Salmond accused (and then cleared) of sexual misconduct.
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I hate it when people post twitter threads, but here’s a twitter thread:
Survations polling for the Courier has been overlooked in the Alba furore. It used a deliberately large sample size of more than 2,000 Scottish residents surveyed between March 11 and March 18. It predicted 1/
The SNP to gain an overall majority at Holyrood with the party expected to win 67 seats. It predicts Labour to win 24 seats, and the Tories 22. The Scottish Greens would win 11 seats and the Lib Dems are predicted to repeat 2016 with just five seats 2/
This would represent a disaster for the Conservatives dropping from 31 to just 22 seats and be a major blow for the Union 3/
It would also mean the biggest gains would be for the Scottish Green Party and mean BOTH an SNP majority and a pro-indy majority (with the Greens). It's in this context that the Alba Party launches, essentially to 'solve' a problem that doesn't exist ... 4/
added to this there are no policies or strategies being put forward by the new party other than the mystical thinking that their presence would change Boris Johnson's mind #magicalthinking
Survations polling for the Courier has been overlooked in the Alba furore. It used a deliberately large sample size of more than 2,000 Scottish residents surveyed between March 11 and March 18. It predicted 1/
The SNP to gain an overall majority at Holyrood with the party expected to win 67 seats. It predicts Labour to win 24 seats, and the Tories 22. The Scottish Greens would win 11 seats and the Lib Dems are predicted to repeat 2016 with just five seats 2/
This would represent a disaster for the Conservatives dropping from 31 to just 22 seats and be a major blow for the Union 3/
It would also mean the biggest gains would be for the Scottish Green Party and mean BOTH an SNP majority and a pro-indy majority (with the Greens). It's in this context that the Alba Party launches, essentially to 'solve' a problem that doesn't exist ... 4/
added to this there are no policies or strategies being put forward by the new party other than the mystical thinking that their presence would change Boris Johnson's mind #magicalthinking
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
And a comparison of favourability ratings:
The bbc and the other right wing shit rags are all making similar points - suddenly discovering their moral integrity, suddenly questioning whether another Indy party might split the SNP support base and weaken the cause (as if they care two craps), suddenly poor Nicola's authority is being undermined blah blah blah. What they fear is Alba's potential to produce an electoral result that might lead to an uncontrollable surge towards Independence and an economic shift that could cause their paymasters to have to stump up some tax to finance a comprehensive welfare state in a post covid slump.
This observation from today's bbc news site, which remarks on Alba's formation. its typical of the general perspective; Alba is a development that is jeopardizing Nicola's SNP and the future of independence. i even heard a rank rotten tory (could have been an editor of Spectator) on last nights 'questiontime' spouting the same line:
"The likes of the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats will no doubt have watched Mr Salmond's announcement with popcorn in hand, hoping it will put a dent in the SNP's electoral juggernaut".
if people don't mind me saying so, there are plenty contributions on here which sound similar to the above. There are entirely legitimate criticisms to be levelled at Salmond, but its important to separate those from what might be quite an encouraging development which could shake up Nicola's holyrood fan club.
"The likes of the Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats will no doubt have watched Mr Salmond's announcement with popcorn in hand, hoping it will put a dent in the SNP's electoral juggernaut".
if people don't mind me saying so, there are plenty contributions on here which sound similar to the above. There are entirely legitimate criticisms to be levelled at Salmond, but its important to separate those from what might be quite an encouraging development which could shake up Nicola's holyrood fan club.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I'm not from Scotland, but even I know that Alberta must be pretty far from the Lothians.
In passing, I'm fascinated by how much more popular/less unpopular Starmer is than the Labour Party. That seems weird to me, what have Scottish Labour managed to do to make the rest of the party more offputting than Starmer?
there's a similar gap between the party and the leader in the rest of the UK iirc
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Maybe he’s just not been in the limelight long enough to really piss people off.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
while it's not a view that I share (or I suspect that many on here share) i am aware of people (in england at least) out there (the not very political floating voter types who focus groups tend to take very seriously) who see starmer as respectable / sensible / prime ministerial (i.e. posh-ish bloke in smart suit who doesn't have any dangerous radical opinions like that nasty mr corbyn did) - they will still almost certainly still vote tory or limp dem at the next election though...
The branch office on the other hand has had decades and decades.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Agree like, not “like” like. (we need an agreed acronym for that).
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
They are saying it because it is true. The sleepy cuddles party is not going to take votes from Lab, Con or the LDs. It does have some potential to damage the SNP (and possibly the Greens).
I mean look at both of the Westminster constituencies of the two MPs that have defected. I'm skeptical Salmond and scum will take much of the vote, but even a small drop in the vote may lost the seat to Labour (or the Tories)
19sixtysix
Life as viewed from a Gay Gorbals Garret
Salmond reminds me of George Galloway. Someone who fails to realise they should be embarrassed by their behaviour and just fuck off out of public life.
19sixtysix
Life as viewed from a Gay Gorbals Garret
Though looks as if Salmond's hoovering the shit out of the SNP which might be a good thing. Has the terf Cherry signed up yet?
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
On another forum I visit it's agreed Cherry probably won't defect. She is no friend of the current SNP regime, that's for sure. But if she is seen to stand alongside Salmond, that would torpedo her 'feminist' (broadly defined) credentials.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I see Alba are hoovering up the wankers.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Is this going to get ukip-y with various splitter parties ?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Don’t know. I mean, my feeling is still that this is the Change UK Mark II, that it won’t poll enough in all regions to hit the threshold, that Salmond himself may get through if he’s top of Alba’s NE list, but that the quality of people being attracted as candidates will overall be off putting.
That said, I’m not in the market for a sexpest party who welcome “accidental” antisemites. So who really knows.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Depends on which Alba Party domain you look at.
Alba Party internet address hijacked within hours by internet pranksters
While the official Albaparty.org adress has been promoted as the party's website, the version using a '.Scot' domain has been commandeered on behalf…
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Ah, the joys of the interwebs.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
He’ll be needing a big hoover. And therein lies the reality of the psychodrama: there is no serious alternative from Alba to the SNP strategy to deliver independence save for a some calls for performative action (which are deliberately magnified to justify the vicious nature of the split) or any serious policy differences between the two camps about the political economy of an independent Scotland. Instead we have a popularity contest between two personality cults. Odd that so many are being swept along with it all
I'm not sure there will be so many tbh but let's see.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I’m not sure many are/will be.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
I loved their Eurovision entry, "Culloden".
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
100%, plus a few more per cents chucked in. Though I suppose the behaviour they exhibit guarantees they are not the kind of person who will ever be embarrassed or can conceive of politics as anything other than personal power and advantage. 'Alpha Males', yuck.
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