Air traffic control failure?

[moochedit]

Do you get DBS checked or similar to work in your industry? Though it sounds like there’s no chance of anyone discovering this hypothetical retention of the refund.

Perhaps you wouldn’t notice this refund until you receive your credit card statement in the post in around a month. I wonder if the defence - I never open my post - would work.

In the case of online statements - where the refund also would show a lot quicker on the account - then there’s perhaps a digital footprint that you’ve read the statement.

Even if you are flat out asked “did you get a refund to your card” and answer “no” I don’t know if your employer would be able to find out via the airline or your card company if you’re lying

If booked on his personal credit/debit card his employer couldn't ask airline or card company due to data protection laws. If police or hmrc were investigating (unlikely) they could get the info.

 

[redsquirrel]

Isn’t that compensation for delays? Who has been delayed, the individual or the company? In most cases, I would say that it would be the individual inconvenienced and therefore don’t see why they should report it to save the company money just because the journey took longer than expected.

A very reasonable argument and one I'd make if someone was given shit over this

 

[Numbers]

Jesus Birmingham airport is grim.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Jesus Birmingham airport is grim.

Last time I flew from Brum to Heathrow it was 1986 & it was grim then! Not had a lick of paint since then?

Glad you’re back though!

 

[Spymaster]

Last time I flew from Brum to Heathrow it was 1986 & it was grim then! Not had a lick of paint since then?

Glad you’re back though!

You flew from Birmingham to Heathrow?

You'll get in trouble for that round here!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You flew from Birmingham to Heathrow?

You'll get in trouble for that round here!

Can't do it any more, they stopped that when the M40 extended from Oxford to Brum...

 

[Numbers]

Last time I flew from Brum to Heathrow it was 1986 & it was grim then! Not had a lick of paint since then?

Glad you’re back though!

Thanks man. Train to Euston next then Uber home.

Needs more than a lick of paint.

 

[TopCat]

I work in coaches and tonight’s shift will be full of angry entitled people who have to be somewhere. Lots of extra coaches are put on but no extra trains as far as I know.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

You flew from Birmingham to Heathrow?

You'll get in trouble for that round here!

First time on a (afaicr) a 12 seater small thing - horrible experience of turbulence.

 

[MickiQ]

 

[agricola]

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Surely that story is fake - my family live within a few miles of that airport, its on a major bus route and yet noone has seen the multi-layered SAM and AAA complex that local people would demand be built if that story was true.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

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Another one? These people are becoming pests…

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Out of interest would people inform their employer if they made a claim via delay repay on the railways?

If they'd paid for the ticket, of course. Its just not worth the risk of losing your job.

 

[NoXion]

This whole debacle only reinforces my impression that modern air travel is a tedious exercise in absolute misery. I'm Warsaw is a nice city to visit, but is it really worth it if you have to endure purgatory to get there and back?

 

[PR1Berske]

This whole debacle only reinforces my impression that modern air travel is a tedious exercise in absolute misery. I'm Warsaw is a nice city to visit, but is it really worth it if you have to endure purgatory to get there and back?

There's a line of thinking amongst certain libertarian/loons that too many undeserving people go abroad and restrictions are needed to return the skies to only those who deserve it. All of this current drama might feed into their conspiracy theory that air travel was never meant for the "little folk".

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Air travel was only ever meant for the birds. Oh, and pterodactyls. And bats. But no-one else. And insects, some of them. And flying squirrels I suppose. But no-one else.

 

[danny la rouge]

Air travel was only ever meant for the birds. Oh, and pterodactyls. And bats. But no-one else. And insects, some of them. And flying squirrels I suppose. But no-one else.

Flying fish?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Flying fish?

Only brief trips allowed before they return to their watery realm

 

[WouldBe]

Only brief trips allowed before they are eaten by seagulls.

Cfy.

 

[two sheds]

Noted up thread I see but now explicitly blamed on the dodgy French

Airlines demand compensation reform as NATS outage sees 2,000 flights cancelled

There were 1,585 flights cancelled on Monday, while 345 were axed on Tuesday

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Puddy_Tat]

I work in coaches and tonight’s shift will be full of angry entitled people who have to be somewhere. Lots of extra coaches are put on but no extra trains as far as I know.

i used to work the roadside end of rail replacement services - think the people i worked for did do emergency coaches when airlines had problems, but i never got involved in them. would imagine it's similar only worse.

and don't think extra trains can happen quick enough to deal with stuff like that now.

 

[Spymaster]

Noted up thread I see but now explicitly blamed on the dodgy French

Airlines demand compensation reform as NATS outage sees 2,000 flights cancelled

There were 1,585 flights cancelled on Monday, while 345 were axed on Tuesday

www.independent.co.uk

Still not quite explicit but it seems that Russian/Chinese/whoever, state hackers have just been made redundant in one fell swoop when all that's needed to bring an air traffic control system to it's knees is for an airline to file a "dodgy" (note the technical term) flight plan. Sounds like bollocks to me.

 

[Spymaster]

Hopefully sorted for next week when I have to fly

The flight we're supposed to be taking on Friday, went out yesterday and today with minor delays, so I'm hoping that's a good sign.

 

[skyscraper101]

My flight to Berlin tomorrow still showing as on time, though I expect it wouldn't be until a few hours before when I'd find out if this is actually true.

 

[Gromit]

UK airspace is never closed for that long without something else occupying it.

It's a cover-up and I suspect another Zeronian Migration.