littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Anyway, the right advice has already been given. Get him in, and keep him in, no matter what for a month or as close to a month as you can. Should have done that from the start.
If he's cold enough he'll come in.
Hang on, aren't you the person who did a thread displaying your utter ignorance of cat behaviour?
My mate's dog house has a mezzanine level, pressure operated heating lamps, and a motion sensitive 'doorbell' to tell it when it's meant to go out in the yard and guard shit. The dog house is several feet taller than I am. TBF this has meant it is a bit of a shit guard dog, though very cute and cuddly for a bull mastiff. I don't think my mate is really cut out for raising a 'guard dog' for his yard, the dog is a right spoilt fucker.
How's this for a situation. It's cold. He's cold. He wants to come in. But there are people much bigger than him who terrify him, so he stays outside in the cold. What could be done to remedy this situation?
We need pictures
I can't, in case I reveal on the open internet just where it is that this 'guard dog' operates. TBF there is someone there most f the time anyway to make up for the dog's shiteness. Think my mate is getting jealous that the dog is getting brought over roast dinners and that all the time.
We need pictures
Oh there was, there was. Yes, basic care and proper grown-up responsibility is being 'pandered to'. They do what they want within limits set by those big scary fuckers called humans. Not to get this most simple of starting points is to demonstrate once more your ignorance of cat behaviour.I'm the person who dislikes other peoples pets ruining my things. There was no 'ignorance of their behaviour'.
Cats are not stupid creatures. And they pretty much do what they want. It's being pandered to quite enough as it is.
Something can be done. A step can be taken. I don't doubt that your not-giving-a-shit approach would translate into a half arsed shelter that doesn't provide much benefit. But don't judge us all by your standards.Not much really, the cat will make it's mind up.
A frozen blanket in a box isn't going to make much difference either way.
I can't, in case I reveal on the open internet just where it is that this 'guard dog' operates. TBF there is someone there most f the time anyway to make up for the dog's shiteness. Think my mate is getting jealous that the dog is getting brought over roast dinners and that all the time.
I will try and get some. It must be nice in there, the fucker never comes out at night if it's cold.
Where's your friend? Where's the cat now?
I'm beginning to think you're on a wind-up
Oh there was, there was. Yes, basic care and proper grown-up responsibility is being 'pandered to'. They do what they want within limits set by those big scary fuckers called humans. Not to get this most simple of starting points is to demonstrate once more your ignorance of cat behaviour.
What use is all that pandering inside if the most basic need - shelter in the best place given that they're shit scared to come in - is being ignored? Why are you so opposed to the basics being done?You don't half make some shit up.
Making contraptions to try and trap it and strategically placing the food to give them optimum time to get to the window and lighting candles and playing soft music to encourage it is pandering to it. Leaving the window open in the freezing cold isn't great either
There is no suggestion at all that the OP isn't willing to provide basic care or take responsibility, quite the opposite in fact. He's doing everything he can to do just that.
Something can be done. A step can be taken. I don't doubt that your not-giving-a-shit approach would translate into a half arsed shelter that doesn't provide much benefit. But don't judge us all by your standards.
Except take the most basic and easy step when that doesn't happen. What good are useless steps? Tell me why another more fruitful step should not be taken. Tell me why you think it definitely shouldn't be taken.Oh do fuck off.
There's plenty of steps being taken. The guy's done everything he can to get this cat in the warmth.
As for not-giving-a-shit that's just fucking laughable. Nobody is making judgements but you.
What use is all that pandering inside if the most basic need - shelter in the best place given that they're shit scared to come in - is being ignored? Why are you so opposed to the basics being done?
What did i make up?
Except take the most basic and easy step when that doesn't happen. What good are useless steps? Tell me why another more fruitful step should not be taken. Tell me why you think it definitely shouldn't be taken.
And stop swearing.
So why have you consistently opposed the idea of building some form of external shelter if you're not opposed to anything?I'm not opposed to anything.
That the cat is lacking basic care and that the OP is unwilling to take responsibility.
..and as i said earlier, this idea that if it's cold enough it will come in is an example of your ignorance of cat behaviour in that it totally disregards the fear that's driving the cat to stay outside. The sort of thing that you must take into account with cats and other animals.I'll swear all I like thank you.
I don't think it definitely shouldn't be taken. I just think it's a bit pointless. The cat has everything it needs and it's accessible. The shelters other posters have suggested are only going to be marginally better as it is.
Is there a chance of shutting off the living room with the window left open (turn down radiator, put a bed near it under a box and a blanket so it looks like a safe hidey hole, plug in a feliway dooda and leave the food nearby? I mean really don't go in there. Do it for a few nights while it's proper cold. It may cost you a little extra in bills but again it may encourage the cat to at least see the living room as a place of warmth and safety as well as food. If it hadn't been such a mild winter it may well have given in already by now.
So why have you consistently opposed the idea of building some form of external shelter if you're not opposed to anything?
Failure to provide adequate external shelter is a lack of basic care in my opinion. Failing to provide adequate external shelter demonstrates an unwillingness to take responsibility in my opinion. Now, what have i made up?
I looked through the conservatory window into the garden, and saw the cat was under the fence between our garden and the neighbours, sticking his head out looking at me. I went back into the kitchen. A little later the cat came to the lounge window. I was in the kitchen on the phone, and watched as he came into the lounge and made his way towards the food. He started eating the food and I moved towards the open doorway between the lounge/kitchen. But the slightest movement from me was enough to get the cat up on the side-table and ready to jump back out the window. I paused, waited for the cat to go back to the food. Then when it was eating again I walked quickly and confidently to the desk, without looking at the cat, intending to close the window. But the cat leapt out long before I had a chance to close it.
Now I'm back at my computer on the desk by the open window. The cat has eaten all the wet food but not the biscuit. We'll see if he comes back at the windowsill, but I don't think he will be brave or stupid enough to come inside if he sees me sitting here.
Stop making stuff up.I think he's done more than enough, is all. The cat has everything it needs, if it doesn't want it there's not much he can do.
Ah ok. Adding 'in my opinion' makes it an absolute truth. Didn't realise. My opinion is that he's providing plenty of care. He's gone massively out of his way here. Which as a pet owner he should do obviously.
It's fucking freezing sitting by the open window...