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action comic: “the sevenpenny nightmare!”

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action comic: “the sevenpenny nightmare!” (the sun)

just been reading martin barker’s “action: the story of a violent comic” (yes, i know it’s nearly 4am, and i know i said i was going to do some work, but...) (titan, 1990), and for the first time i noticed a reference to an earlier book, “comics: ideology, power and the critics” (manchester university press, 1989). anyone out there read it?

also, he mentioned that when ‘action’ was withdrawn after a campaign by the moralistas led by the likes of la whitehouse, that “through the streets of brixton (truly - several people have recalled this)... rang the cry: ‘THEY’VE TAKEN AWAY OUR COMIC!’” any of you sarf lahndahn types remember this?

anyway, for those wot don’t know, ‘action’ was a particularly gritty and violent comic that ipc put out in 1976, and which through its grittiness and violence attracted the ire of the self-professed ‘moral majority’, which in turn gave ipc management the wobble, halting production of the comic till it was niced up.

it was created by freelance writer pat mills, who’d already given ipc a hit with ‘battle’, which he co-created with john ‘judge dredd’ wagner, and afterwards mills would go on to bring about 2000ad and forever change the landscape of british comics, etc.

talking of which, why exactly did ipc/fleetway sell 2000ad? any krt insiders like to spill the beans? i’ve not been a 2000ad reader for a few years now, and only noticed the change of ownership when i was browsing the website. has ipc/fleetway got out of comics totally now? is there a future for non-tv tie-ins, nursery readers or ‘adult’ comics in the uk? i mean apart from u.s. style books - i mean proper, sausage-and-mash u.k. comics, weeklies with half a dozen episodes of different stories each issue...

read, digest, discuss and give me answers, dammit!
 
Wasn't it "Action" that had the story featuring the murder-crazed, man-eating Great White shark "Hook Jaw"? I used to love that story :D :eek: :D
 
it certainly did :D pat mills claimed it was an 'ecological' story, cause it was always greedy humans who were trying to kill him. err, that would explain eating julian, the boy who wouldn't listen to his mother and went swimming after a meal ;) ouch, now that's what i call indigestion :eek:
 
what was the name of the Rollerball style strip that was a forerunner to the Harlem Hero's/Inferno strip in 2000 ad?

Action was great,i dont remember it being anymore violent than any of its contempories and certainly less violent than 2000ad,the opening dredd story had a perp squewer himself on the spikes of the statue of liberty,doubt they could get away with that nowadays
and wasn't flesh brilliant? Cowboys and Dinosaurs in the same story...Fantastic
 
Clintons Cat said:
what was the name of the Rollerball style strip that was a forerunner to the Harlem Hero's/Inferno strip in 2000 ad?

deathmatch 1999 i think - it was later toned down to boring old 'spinball' :(

Clintons Cat said:
Action was great,i dont remember it being anymore violent than any of its contempories and certainly less violent than 2000ad,the opening dredd story had a perp squewer himself on the spikes of the statue of liberty,doubt they could get away with that nowadays
and wasn't flesh brilliant? Cowboys and Dinosaurs in the same story...Fantastic

yeah, but 2000ad came after action, and barker argues that without 'action', 2000ad would never have come about. he touches on internal trouble at ipc over the use of freelances (wagner and mills) to create 'battle', and then 'action'. normally these things were done by the relevent department (eg boys' dept), but mills showed that you could bring together fresh young talent and make it sell. and looking through the reprints from 'action', its not so much the depiction of violence, so much as the gleeful depiction of violence, coupled with a healthily anarchic disregard for authority which seemed to get it in trouble.

fuck it, what do i know, i wasn't even born till after it had been withdrawn :D
 
Re:Judge Dredd
Some of the reprints of the early Dredd comic strips have been censored...
For Example: "The Cursed Earth" reprint is missing 4 episodes, due to the fact, that said episodes, were "mickey/piss takes" of certain Fast Food retailers, such as McDonalds, KFC, & Burger King. The reason for this ommission, being, that said companies threatened to sue over potential copyright violations ! :eek:
Yours,Judge Grimley
P.S anyone remember the Dredger strip from Action...?
 
G. Fieendish said:
P.S anyone remember the Dredger strip from Action...?

yup! and his posh, public school compadre simon breed...

and the decapitation-on-a-train episode :eek:
 
bristle-krs said:
action comic: “the sevenpenny nightmare!” (the sun)

just been reading martin barker’s “action: the story of a violent comic” (yes, i know it’s nearly 4am, and i know i said i was going to do some work, but...) (titan, 1990), and for the first time i noticed a reference to an earlier book, “comics: ideology, power and the critics” (manchester university press, 1989). anyone out there read it?

also, he mentioned that when ‘action’ was withdrawn after a campaign by the moralistas led by the likes of la whitehouse, that “through the streets of brixton (truly - several people have recalled this)... rang the cry: ‘THEY’VE TAKEN AWAY OUR COMIC!’” any of you sarf lahndahn types remember this?
Ummmmm... I lived near Brixton as a kid and it sounds vaguely like my reaction :eek:
'Charly's War' anyone?
 
Action and Battle joined together before they went down the tubes, Johnny Red being v v v good :)
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silentNate said:
Action and Battle joined together before they went down the tubes, Johnny Red being v v v good :)
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all part of the regular consolidations and mergers of titles in uk comics, from the 50s through to the 90s.

battle picture weekly joined with valiant, action, briefly became half toy advert as 'battle action force' before palitoy ditched them...

johnny red and charley's war were two pat mills classics, the former illustrated by the wonderful late joe colqhoun, the latter with sweeping brushstrokes by john cooper.

i think battle may have been the first british comic to openly credit the creative talent - writer, artist and letterer were all credited in little 'grenades'.
 
Whatever happened to Halo Jones there was meant to have been 4 books but Alan Moore never finished it.
There was talk of another Zenith series but it never materalised. Zenith was brillant BTW the best thing I read 2000ad.
 
bristle-krs said:
battle picture weekly joined with valiant, action, briefly became half toy advert as 'battle action force' before palitoy ditched them...

johnny red and charley's war were two pat mills classics, the former illustrated by the wonderful late joe colqhoun, the latter with sweeping brushstrokes by john cooper.

Ive just found (in our move) an old copy of Battle Action Force. Its got the last episode of Charleys War in WW2 before it jumps back to WW1 :) but its also got a Cobra Commander story :mad: :confused: .
Can still remember playing with the red plane that came with the first Action comic. Nearly had someones eye out with it.
 
Walter Mitty said:
Whatever happened to Halo Jones there was meant to have been 4 books but Alan Moore never finished it.

Didnt she just fly off into space after she left her tusked giant lover to die in a faulty pressure suit.
Hadnt heard of a 4th book.
 
starfish said:
Didnt she just fly off into space after she left her tusked giant lover to die in a faulty pressure suit.
Hadnt heard of a 4th book.

alan moore fell out with ipc/fleetway over creative rights - originally it was planned to span 9 books i think...
 
Im a bit too young to have read Action at the time, but I definately remember 'Hook Jaw' so I guessed I must have read an old annual or something.
 
bristle-krs said:
talking of which, why exactly did ipc/fleetway sell 2000ad? any krt insiders like to spill the beans? i’ve not been a 2000ad reader for a few years now, and only noticed the change of ownership when i was browsing the website. has ipc/fleetway got out of comics totally now? is there a future for non-tv tie-ins, nursery readers or ‘adult’ comics in the uk? i mean apart from u.s. style books - i mean proper, sausage-and-mash u.k. comics, weeklies with half a dozen episodes of different stories each issue...

read, digest, discuss and give me answers, dammit!

IPC are completely out of comics now. That said, they are now owned by Time Warner who also own DC Comics (publishers of Batman, Hellblazer and Superman) in the US. DC have just started publishing a mini-series called Albion, plotted by Alan Moore and written by his rather less talented daughter and her husband. It features a load of the old British comics characters such Robot Archie and Steel Claw. It isn't terribly good, to be honest.

2000AD has been passed round quite a few publishers for one reason – it no longer sells very well. Probably no more than 30,000 copies a week and that's probably being quite generous.

There are still a lot of comics published in the UK, but 2000AD and Viz are probably the only ones you've ever heard of. A lot of UK comics are reprints of Marvel and DC stuff, and TV tie-ins. The guy who created the football strip Striker and ran it in the Sun for years tried to spin it off into a weekly comic but it was a failure and recently closed. You'll probably find a definitive list of what's available here: www.downthetubes.net.

Also, there's going to be a reprint volume of Hookjaw coming out later in the year. Details here: www.spitfirecomics.co.uk
 
I used to have that book. Very good indeed. My favourite strip was the one where a catastrophy kills all the adults and the kids of course go on a violent rampage, bit of murder, bit of gang warfare, as kids do. The ending was fantastic coming after the self imposed clean up - gang all get to central london and meet a friendly copper and are convinced in about a minute to change their ways "I'm becoming a teacher" says one, "I'm going to be a social worker" says the other. Classic.
I also liked the way in hookjaw that the shark just kept winning, turning the usual cliches on their head. I loved that shark.
I pick up 2000ad up every now and then but i don't know why. Old favourites rehashed and worse of all the artists just seem to read some back copies and produce 'tributes'. Not one of the current artists can be spoken of in the same breath as Kevin O'Neil, Ezquerra, Dillon, McMahon, Cam Kennedy etc. The art that 2000ad produced was fantastic and so distinctive but now its all gone down the swanny.
Still i've got another 800 back issues to collect.
 
You're thinking of 'KIDS RULE OK'. The other strip that got loads of flak was THE PROBATIONER, which I can't remember very much about other than that it was horribly violent.

2000AD is shite now. I pick it up occasionally to see if it's got any better and am always disappointed.
 
Re:Judge Dredd
Some of the reprints of the early Dredd comic strips have been censored...
For Example: "The Cursed Earth" reprint is missing 4 episodes, due to the fact, that said episodes, were "mickey/piss takes" of certain Fast Food retailers, such as McDonalds, KFC, & Burger King. The reason for this ommission, being, that said companies threatened to sue over potential copyright violations ! :eek:
Yours,Judge Grimley

Finally getting an official reprinting, out in July in the UK and the US! To celebrate McMahon and Bolland will be signing copies at Gosh Comics opposite the British Museum on 16 July :cool:

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Judge Dredd: The Cursed Earth Uncensored Signing | Gosh! London
 
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