Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison

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I'd say shagging a drunk and incapable woman on the consent of your mate whilst getting other mates to film the encounter goes beyond being a bit of a cunt tbh. I never find the word 'evil' particularly helpful but fucking hell. It's a dark way to treat someone.

problem is that while I strongly believe that a great many men find that behavior utterly vile, there still a significant minority that are perfectly comfortable to equate lack of resistance with consent. or at least claim they do to exploit that idea of a grey area where women get confused about what happened, cause they aren't able to think without a man to help them.

 

[belboid]

Ched Evans: Footballer's rape appeal date set - BBC News

Appeal on March 22

 

[PursuedByBears]

Ched Evans' rape conviction under review after new evidence brought forward

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oddly the proceedings cannot be reported on???

 

[belboid]

Decision delayed til April - Ched Evans rape appeal decision delayed until April - BBC News

 

[equationgirl]

Decision delayed til April - Ched Evans rape appeal decision delayed until April - BBC News

I saw that. guess everyone will have to wait until April for the decision.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This is very unusual: Prosecutors to seek retrial if Ched Evans wins appeal

Prosecutors are to seek a retrial if former Sheffield United footballer Ched Evanswins an appeal against his conviction for raping a teenager, a court has heard.

Prosecutor Eleanor Laws QC told the court that when a judgment comes back, and if Evans is successful, the crown would seek a retrial.

 

[Dowie]

Decision delayed til April - Ched Evans rape appeal decision delayed until April - BBC News

Does that mean it could quite feasibly easily go either way? I mean if they thought it was an obvious decision presumably they'd have either rejected his appeal pretty quickly or quashed his conviction already?

 

[equationgirl]

This is very unusual: Prosecutors to seek retrial if Ched Evans wins appeal

I was under the impression that if the appeal was won then there would be a retrial, as that's what the appeal panel would order. The appeal panel won't determine whether or not he is innocent, just whether or not the new evidence should have been introduced to the original trial, and if so, that there should be a retrial.

But it's been a while since I read about this stuff

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I was under the impression that if the appeal was won then there would be a retrial, as that's what the appeal panel would order. The appeal panel won't determine whether or not he is innocent, just whether or not the new evidence should have been introduced to the original trial, and if so, that there should be a retrial.

But it's been a while since I read about this stuff

Afaik this is the court of appeal, they will uphold the conviction, quash it or order a retrial. What has been said is that because he has served the custodial part of his sentence a retrial would not be ordered.

If that is correct it seems odd that the Crown would state that they'd go for a retrial in the event of a not guilty. But tbf I can't remember following a case at appeal such as this before, so don't know for sure, but does sound a bit squiffy.

 

[TopCat]

New evidence apparently.

 

[TopCat]

I on the whole loathe footballers.

 

[equationgirl]

It will be interesting to find out what exactly this holy grail of evidence actually is.

 

[RubyBlue]

It will be interesting to find out what exactly this holy grail of evidence actually is.

It was reported earlier - before the reporting restrictions - it was based on FB messages from the woman involved, this is speculation though so we will find out in April.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Wins appeal, will face re-trial...

 

[Spymaster]

Wow. Wtf was that all about then????

 

[dessiato]

He has won his appeal, going to retrial

Ched Evans wins rape conviction appeal - Ched Evans wins rape conviction appeal - BBC News

 

[Spymaster]

What happens if he's found guilty again?

 

[likesfish]

What utter bullshit the "new evidence" is loads of statements saying his victim is a slag.

Doesn't change his behaviour on the night but if a woman is "easy" enough and you have access too enough cash you too can get away with rape

 

[dessiato]

What utter bullshit the "new evidence" is loads of statements saying his victim is a slag.

Doesn't change his behaviour on the night but if a woman is "easy" enough and you have access too enough cash you too can get away with rape

Another interesting rape case is that of the soldiers who raped a female soldier. But that's for another thread.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

"Details of the grounds of appeal can not be reported for legal reasons."

Still can't be reported

 

[baffled]

It will be interesting to find out what exactly this holy grail of evidence actually is.

According to the Independent he's had a freelance investigative journalist looking into it.

D-day for Ched Evans as Court of Appeal rules on rape conviction

Whether it goes beyond the Facebook/Twitter bollocks is anyone's guess until the new trial though.

Edit: Don Hale who worked on the Stephen Downing and Barry George cases amongst others.

Don Hale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Orang Utan]

What happens if he's found guilty again?

He should go to jail again for twice the time

 

[Spymaster]

... the "new evidence" is loads of statements saying his victim is a slag.

I doubt that.

 

[likesfish]

That involved the RMP the same org that used to hunt lesbians in the army .
Prefects in schools have better investigation skills. They were the same org who having arrested a fuckwit for cannabis poession managed to lose the drugs out of the back of a helicopter.
They then threw a fit when the Battalion and RUC refused to organise a search of 10 square miles of south armagh for "dangerous drugs" a small bad of weed
They are crap at soldiering and even worse at any police work more complicated than grabbing drunks or traffic direction (their main wartime role). Any investigation they take part in is likely to be a complete disaster through poor skills and a reputation lower than the mets in Brixton.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I doubt that.

It is facebook posts his victim made and then deleted, these were dug up by some bloke in America after his guilty verdict. For some reason the details still cannot be reported though.

 

[cyril_smear]

Why bother with a retrial? Hopefully if found not guilty he will donate any compensation to a rape charity.

What happens to the young woman involved if he is found not guilty? I can imagine him using some big shot solicitor to push for a conviction against her. similar to what happened with woman who ended up taking her own life after the cps took over a private prosecution against her.

 

[Spymaster]

It is facebook posts his victim made and then deleted, these were dug up by some bloke in America after his guilty verdict.

Yes, that's more plausible than posts supposedly calling her a slag.

All I can think of is that her posts on FB implied that the sex was consensual.

 

[Spymaster]

Why bother with a retrial?

Eh?

How about, because he believes that he was not guilty of rape, feels that there is new evidence to support this, and doesn't want to be known as a rapist for the rest of his life?

What happens to the young woman involved if he is found not guilty?

If it's shown that she made a false allegation which led to the destruction of his career and imprisonment, then she should be prosecuted.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yes, that's more plausible than posts supposedly calling her a slag.

All I can think of is that her posts on FB implied that the sex was consensual.

That's kind of all it can be, but can't be reported on as it would prejudice the new trial.

If it's shown that she made a false allegation which led to the destruction of his career and imprisonment, then she should be prosecuted.

She made no allegation or complaint.