Accused rapist Ched Evans to be released from prison

[Athos]

Well it's not and she's unlikely to be reading it anyway.

Other people might be upset by reading it, though, including one rape survivor who accused you of rape apology.

 

[Joe Reilly]

Do you think the 2 trials were conducted in the same way?

See my post 3620

 

[Athos]

Wow, you really haven't got anything else besides that, which was conceded, and became irrelevant today.

You've taken a beating and you're really smarting aren't you???

Beating. Lol.

That you're so keen to shrug off as irrelevant the deeply unpleasant stuff you made up about this woman is very telling.

 

[Spymaster]

Other people might be upset by reading it, though ...

Then shut the fuck up!

 

[Spymaster]

That you're so keen to shrug of the deeply unpleasant stuff you made up about this woman is very telling.

That I made up???

Truly desperate stuff. You should stop now.

 

[Athos]

Then shut the fuck up!

I'm not the one who had been defending Evans, including by lying about what the evidence showed about the victims' sexual history.

 

[Athos]

That I made up???

Desperate stuff. You should stop now.

Yes. Made up. You said it, and it wasn't true. It was a figment of your imagination, conjured up in one of your desperate attempts to defend Evans.

 

[Spymaster]

I'm not the one who had been defecting Evans, including by lying about what the evidence showed about the victims' sexual history.

This is often the refuge of the vanquished ... declare that a position held in error and subsequently retracted and apologised for when the error was pointed out, was a LIE.

It's a smearing tactic that's completely dishonest and transparent.

 

[Spymaster]

Yes. Made up. You said it, and it wasn't true. It was a figment of your imagination, conjured up in one of your desperate attempts to defend Evans.

See last post. More transparent lies.

Come on, turn it in now.

 

[Athos]

This is often the refuge of the vanquished ... declare that a position held in error and subsequently retracted and apologised for when the error was pointed out, was a LIE.

It's a smearing tactic that's completely dishonest and transparent.

More of a smear than:

'there was already evidence that she frequently forgot about consenting to sex... '?

Even if it had been a genuine mistake, the fact that you believed it so readily, and said it so casually, says a lot about your attitude towards X.

 

[Spymaster]

More of a smear than:

'there was already evidence that she frequently forgot about consenting to sex... '?

Even if it had been a genuine mistake, the fact that you believed it so readily, and said it so casually says a lot about your attitude towards X.

Of course it was a genuine mistake. That's why I immediately withdrew it when it was pointed out.

The fact that you're clinging to it like a dog with a bone despite it's irrelevance shows that you have absolutely nothing left.

Give it up now.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Pair of you need to pack it in.

 

[Athos]

Of course it was a genuine mistake. That's why I immediately withdrew it when it was pointed out.

The fact that you're clinging to it like a dog with a bone despite it's irrelevance shows that you have absolutely nothing left.

Give it up now.

You can continue to try to minimise it, but it's entirely relevant to your mindset on this issue; one that a survivor of rape has described as rape apology on this thread.

 

[Wilf]

See my post 3620

3620 hardly touches on the second trial so 'see my post 3620' in no way answers the question "do you think the 2 trials were conducted in the same way?"

As you know full well, the reason the appeal was allowed was the 'new evidence', the woman's sexual history. The introduction of that material, in court - procured with offers of £50000 - was the difference between the 2 trials. Do you agree that was the case?

 

[Spymaster]

You can continue to try to minimise it, but it's entirely relevant to your mindset on this issue ...

I'm afraid not. Other posters thought the same (or at least didn't challenge it), some of whom were on your side of the discussion. I'm the only one who held his hands up to the genuine mistake.

I don't blame you for making the most of it because defeating it made your argument regarding the evidence introduction slightly more credible. But that's in flames now too.

I wonder how much more mileage you'll try to get out of a retracted statement!

 

[Athos]

I'm afraid not. Other posters thought the same (or at least didn't challenge it), some of whom were on your side of the discussion. I'm the only one who held his hands up to the genuine mistake.

I don't blame you for making the most of it because defeating it made your argument regarding the evidence introduction slightly more credible. But that's in flames now too!

I wonder how much more mileage you'll try to get out of a retracted statement!

More lies from a rape apologist.

 

[Treacle Toes]

See my post 3620

That post doesn't answer my question at all it merely rambles on in the direction you prefer to take the discussion. Dodge away.

 

[Spymaster]

More lies from a rape apologist.

Oh dear.

Come back when the tantrum's over.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Is this alpha male rutting or what?

 

[Orang Utan]

Is this alpha male rutting or what?

looks like it. using fight-related terminology.
I think a mod needs to bang their heads together.

 

[Treacle Toes]

They are already doing that.

 

[Orang Utan]

They are already doing that.

i was thinking of a forced ignore

 

[Thimble Queen]

Not sure if Athos really believes Spymaster is a rape apologist or if it's just point scoring

 

[Athos]

Oh dear.

Come back when the tantrum's over.

No, I'm not having a tantrum; I'm not upset at all. Because I've pretty much demolished every argument you've put forward (and you've conceded some of them).

But I've come to realise that you're so firmly wedded to your rape apologist mindset that there's little point in further discussion.

You know it, I know it, and anyone who wants to see what's happened here can find it out, too.

So there's nothing left to say but goodbye.

 

[Athos]

Not sure if Athos really believes Spymaster is a rape apologist or if it's just point scoring

Yes, I do, now, sadly.

 

[Spymaster]

Because I've pretty much demolished every argument you've put forward ...

Now I know and you know that that's a silly thing to say. If it were the case you'd be making hay with these demolished points. The fact that you aren't, and have to keep banging on about the point conceded,sets this one alight too!

 

[Spymaster]

Not sure if Athos really believes Spymaster is a rape apologist ...

Of course he doesn't. He's just had his arse kicked and is lashing out.

 

[Orang Utan]

Of course he doesn't. He's just had his arse kicked and is lashing out.

this seems be a delusion you are labouring under. you've been shot down bang to rights, but both of you seem to just scoring points now - why carry on like this? you should know time to stop when others are telling you to stop.

 

[Spymaster]

this seems be a delusion you are labouring under. you've been shot down bang to rights ...

He's had a main pillar of his argument whipped right away!

Don't be silly. Read his position again.

But I accept that you are on his side. Which is fair enough.

 

[Athos]

this seems be a delusion you are labouring under. you've been shot down bang to rights, but both of you seem to just scoring points now - why carry on like this? you should know time to stop when others are telling you to stop.

I've stopped.