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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Spymaster said:
Balls. If they were waving union flags they'd be "fash" or "gammons".

Fucking dog-wanking plums. We're out. Get the fuck over it.
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oh come on the brexiters cried like hell for 40 years of us being in

why should the otherside give up after less than 10 of being out :hmm:
 
so anyways was watching a programme about Britain's greatest adverts over the weekend and someone made the arguement that all this brexit nonsense can be trace back to one advert for tango back in the 90



you know it does make a bit of sense :hmm:
 
Ax^ said:
so anyways was watching a programme about Britain's greatest adverts over the weekend and someone made the arguement that all this brexit nonsense can be trace back to one advert for tango back in the 90



you know it does make a bit of sense :hmm:
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Maastrict was 1992. That advert didn't air til 96
 
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Ax^ said:
oh come on the brexiters cried like hell for 40 years of us being in

why should the otherside give up after less than 10 of being out :hmm:
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Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful. These bitter remaniac bellends are just howling at the moon now. The UK will not go back into the EU in any of our lifetimes. Move on!
 
Spymaster said:
Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful. These bitter remaniac bellends are just howling at the moon now. The UK will not go back into the EU in any of our lifetimes. Move on!
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Even if that is to be the case, any stunt that makes Tory MPs and right wing newspapers and their readers apoplectic with rage is 100% a Good Thing, and worth continue doing for all eternity.
 
Spymaster said:
Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful. These bitter remaniac bellends are just howling at the moon now. The UK will not go back into the EU in any of our lifetimes. Move on!
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who you telling to move on .. go to the next rally and bring a mic :p

and who know what the future might bring to be fair sur plenty of people told brexiters to move on over last 40 years and look what they achieved
 
Spymaster said:
Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful.
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Many Brexiters would (yet) disagree on the latter point.

Brexit has been betrayed by one agreement or another, not fully implemented, we need to do X to "get Brexit done", etc.
 
Spymaster said:
Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful. These bitter remaniac bellends are just howling at the moon now. The UK will not go back into the EU in any of our lifetimes. Move on!
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Daily Mail editor's note - "That's the kind of energy we like to see, Boris, but this at least 500 words short of being enough for your column and for the amount we're paying you, perhaps you could express some new ideas occasionally"
 
Spymaster said:
Well the brexiters had an achievable goal and were ultimately successful. These bitter remaniac bellends are just howling at the moon now. The UK will not go back into the EU in any of our lifetimes. Move on!
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achievable goals :hmm:

aside from leaving

what was the goals
 
In the last few weeks we've seen:

1 the decision to ditch a UK kite marking scheme and stick with European kite marking
2 import restrictions get deferred for the fourth time
3 the UK readmitted to the horizon programme

It's pretty naive to think that Brexit has happened and that there isn't an ongoing job of reversing the damage that was caused by it. As a political vehicle, the wheels have come off and it's now in the breakers yard.

But yeah... keep trying to goad remoaniacs if it makes you feel better.
 
contadino said:
It's pretty naive to think that Brexit has happened and that there isn't an ongoing job of reversing
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I agree with this. What Brexit meant: a restoration of a national economy, insourcing and inshoring, renewal and regeneration and a coherent sectoral industrial strategy has not even been attempted let alone delivered. Some of us would add a massive programme of state intervention, nationalisation, tripartite collective bargaining and planning to the list. That was never happening under Tory rule, but the Tories have failed to even implement their own idea of it.

In terms of the ‘reversal’ I’d say that given the next government will be run by neoliberal Blairites then we can safely bet their longer term ambitions will be to test the extent that they can reverse the democratic decision, if not overthrow it completely. My guess is that the aim to effectively rejoin without rejoining though alignment and synergy.

However, the fly in the ointment is what will be left of the EU economic project by the time they get the time and space to collapse back into the EU structures.

The big problem for the Europhile British political/chattering classes and their allies in the downwardly mobile petit bourgeois is that their cheerleading for the EU has become so uncritical that they cannot grasp how the longer term prospects for the German economy, Ukraine, the populist rise across the zone and shift of other blocs away (particularly China and the USA) from the EU brand of neoliberal economics means that their hankering is actually for an imagined project of the 90’s. Their nostalgia and harking back will be confronted by shuddering reality in due course.
 
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Smokeandsteam said:
I agree with this. What Brexit meant: a restoration of a national economy, insourcing and inshoring, renewal and regeneration and a coherent sectoral industrial strategy has not even been attempted let alone delivered. Some of us would add a massive programme of state intervention, nationalisation, tripartite collective bargaining and planning to the list. That was never happening under Tory rule, but the Tories have failed to even implement their own idea of it.

In terms of the ‘reversal’ I’d say that given the next government will be run by neoliberal Blairites then we can safely bet their longer term ambitions will be to test the extent that they can reverse the democratic decision, if not overthrow it completely. My guess is that the aim to effectively rejoin without rejoining though alignment and synergy.

However, the fly in the ointment is what will be left of the EU economic project by the time they get the time and space to collapse back into the EU structures.

The big problem for the Europhile British political/chattering classes and their allies in the downwardly mobile petit bourgeois is that their cheerleading for the EU has become so uncritical that they cannot grasp how the longer term prospects for the German economy, Ukraine, the populist rise across the zone and shift of other blocs away (particularly China and the USA) from the EU brand of neoliberal economics means that their hankering is actually for an imagined project of the 90’s. Their nostalgia and harking back will be confronted by shuddering reality in due course.
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Why do you think the ruling politicians have failed to implement any of the stuff which you say was ‘their own idea of it’ then? Did they just mess it up?
Personally don’t think they had any coherent idea at all, see no evidence that they did, and certainly don’t think they ever planned or hoped in any serious way to reduce dependence on imports or revive manufacturing etc.
 
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Smokeandsteam said:
I agree with this. What Brexit meant: a restoration of a national economy, insourcing and inshoring, renewal and regeneration and a coherent sectoral industrial strategy has not even been attempted let alone delivered. Some of us would add a massive programme of state intervention, nationalisation, tripartite collective bargaining and planning to the list. That was never happening under Tory rule, but the Tories have failed to even implement their own idea of it.

In terms of the ‘reversal’ I’d say that given the next government will be run by neoliberal Blairites then we can safely bet their longer term ambitions will be to test the extent that they can reverse the democratic decision, if not overthrow it completely. My guess is that the aim to effectively rejoin without rejoining though alignment and synergy.

However, the fly in the ointment is what will be left of the EU economic project by the time they get the time and space to collapse back into the EU structures.

The big problem for the Europhile British political/chattering classes and their allies in the downwardly mobile petit bourgeois is that their cheerleading for the EU has become so uncritical that they cannot grasp how the longer term prospects for the German economy, Ukraine, the populist rise across the zone and shift of other blocs away (particularly China and the USA) from the EU brand of neoliberal economics means that their hankering is actually for an imagined project of the 90’s. Their nostalgia and harking back will be confronted by shuddering reality in due course.
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this from the side that brought back blue passports

nostalgia for a bygone age ...
 
bimble said:
Why do you think the ruling politicians have failed to implement any of the stuff which you say was ‘their own idea of it’ then? Did they just mess it up?
Personally don’t think they had any coherent idea at all, see no evidence that they did, and certainly don’t think they ever planned or hoped in any serious way to reduce dependence on imports or revive manufacturing etc.
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The joy of brexit is it was so many different things to different people
 
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