A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Ax^]

Also you are crowding out the likes of Ax^ and Tanya1982

amazing how much this thread is like arguing with marty1 at times

one side always trying to own the libs

 

[sleaterkinney]

It would also be odd if you take a cursory glance at the leaders of the respective for and against campaigns:

In: the Tory party, the labour right, the CBI, ICI, Rothschild, General Electric, Vickers, Lever, Boots, Austin, Ford, Rolls Royce, Monsanto, Lancashire Steel, United Steel and the media.

Out: the labour left

The EU can only be understood as an economic project: a free trade and then a globalisation project, albeit with some military considerations too.

What the EU is - teleologically - and what some of its most resolute fans claim it is would make a superb PhD thesis

Wait, the media, murdoch and the daily mail were In?. Out was the right wing of the Tory party + farage and a few far left types who saw it as the end of capitalism or something.

 

[The39thStep]

The ellipsis with an arrow & ‘who replied’.
5 more.

Third so deffo so your description of me being ‘enthusiastic ‘ is apt .

 

[The39thStep]

amazing how much this thread is like arguing with marty1 at times

one side always trying to own the libs

Watch your language

 

[bimble]

Third so deffo so your description of me being ‘enthusiastic ‘ is apt .

Your delight is obviously a bit but not much smaller than my pissedoffness .

 

[two sheds]

Bloody hell I am. Had no idea. I’m obviously not over the neoliberal middle class trauma yet . Which is a bit weird seeing as I’m a citizen of Slovakia.

That's nothing - Wilf's stopped posting on the Vardy Rooney thread which means I'm leading up the other key debate on the site.

 

[The39thStep]

Your delight is obviously a bit but not much smaller than my pissedoffness .

Delight may be over egging it tbh

 

[brogdale]

Third so deffo so your description of me being ‘enthusiastic ‘ is apt .

Trailing in a sad, medal-less fourth.

 

[The39thStep]

Trailing in a sad, medal-less fourth.

As befits the lonely burden of arguing against the govt plebiscite on the neo liberal suprastate and the U.K. national capitalist state Brogdale

 

[Artaxerxes]

It would also be odd if you take a cursory glance at the leaders of the respective for and against campaigns:

In: the Tory party, the labour right, the CBI, ICI, Rothschild, General Electric, Vickers, Lever, Boots, Austin, Ford, Rolls Royce, Monsanto, Lancashire Steel, United Steel and the media.

Out: the labour left

The EU can only be understood as an economic project: a free trade and then a globalisation project, albeit with some military considerations too.

What the EU is - teleologically - and what some of its most resolute fans claim it is would make a superb PhD thesis

Out: the Tory right, Nigel Farage and a variety of weird businessmen.

Wait, the media, murdoch and the daily mail were In?. Out was the right wing of the Tory party + farage and a few far left types who saw it as the end of capitalism or something.

The media were in but you'd never notice for most of them, a lot swung behind remain in the last week or so after breathlessly parroting bollocks about project fear for the previous decade.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Out: the Tory right, Nigel Farage and a variety of weird businessmen.




The media were in but you'd never notice for most of them, a lot swung behind remain in the last week or so after breathlessly parroting bollocks about project fear for the previous decade.

sleaterkinney and Artaxerxes : the point I was replying to was about the origins of the EU and the first referendum in 1975. You are both right though, fast forward to 2016 and not much had changed (bar the labour left and that the British corporations have become largely subsumed into global corporates).

 

[bimble]

The media were in but you'd never notice for most of them

Was daily mail ‘in’ at some point? Did they just do a giant ferret after the vote don’t think so but can’t remember. They did years and years of bendy banana anti eu stuff and then lots of this?

 

[Ax^]

Out: the Tory right, Nigel Farage and a variety of weird businessmen.




The media were in but you'd never notice for most of them, a lot swung behind remain in the last week or so after breathlessly parroting bollocks about project fear for the previous decade.

which way did the sun go if you talking about the media

it was like the mail and express out for our freedoms

 

[bimble]

which way did the sun go if you talking about the media

it was like the mail and express out for our freedoms

The sun was very out.

 

[The39thStep]

Was daily mail ‘in’ at some point? Did they just do a giant ferret after the vote don’t think so but can’t remember. They did years and years of bendy banana anti eu stuff and then lots of this?
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Apparently the Mail prides itself as having the largest female readership of any paper in the U.K.

 

[bimble]

Apparently the Mail prides itself as having the largest female readership of any paper in the U.K.

Yes. But if only women voted, we’d have remained.

 

[The39thStep]

Yes. But if only women voted, we’d have remained.

Same with the vote for Thatcher

 

[Artaxerxes]

Was daily mail ‘in’ at some point? Did they just do a giant ferret after the vote don’t think so but can’t remember. They did years and years of bendy banana anti eu stuff and then lots of this?
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Leave I think, but it didn't make an explicit "fuck it and go" call till the last minute. They had a bunfight with the Sunday version because Dacre didn't like the editor.

Then it got worse when Leave won.

Fairly even split looking at it tbf, Times went for In, Mirror and Guardian as well. Usual lunatic rags for Remain. These Are The British Newspapers Backing Brexit. Its been a long time and a fuck lot has happened so my memory was less than perfect.

 

[Yossarian]

Telegraph was definitely out - they were the ones who had that Brussels correspondent for years who used to just make shit up about bans on prawn cocktail crisps, etc. - whatever happened to that twat?

 

[philosophical]

I am pissed off with myself for being drawn to post on this thread where a significant word in the thread title is yet to be defined or explained.
For me it would be more calming if the title was ‘A thank you to leave voters’.
Then I could ask them when is leave going to happen.

 

[The39thStep]

 

[editor]

 

[Ax^]

a brave new future for the working man

and blueish black passports

 

[Artaxerxes]

Much of this was mentioned (and dismissed) in the project fear headlines.

By you, the Telegraph

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The U.K. is to impose a similar system, Ireland will have to impose checks to comply with this as they are not prepared to join Schengen, rather happier to stay in the Common Travel Area, sucking up the benefits the U.K. grants them, which are clearly greater than those offered by the EU. Those who voted remain should be made to work at the border to ensure no queues, as this is the sole reason they voted, the EU hating racist paedophiles that they must be?

 

[brogdale]

The U.K. is to impose a similar system, Ireland will have to impose checks to comply with this as they are not prepared to join Schengen, rather happier to stay in the Common Travel Area, sucking up the benefits the U.K. grants them, which are clearly greater than those offered by the EU. Those who voted remain should be made to work at the border to ensure no queues, as this is the sole reason they voted, the EU hating racist paedophiles that they must be?

13 million working at the border? Think of the traffic chaos!

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

13 million working at the border? Think of the traffic chaos!

Philosophical should have thought of that before he selfishly cast his vote.

 

[Ax^]

The U.K. is to impose a similar system, Ireland will have to impose checks to comply with this as they are not prepared to join Schengen, rather happier to stay in the Common Travel Area, sucking up the benefits the U.K. grants them, which are clearly greater than those offered by the EU. Those who voted remain should be made to work at the border to ensure no queues, as this is the sole reason they voted, the EU hating racist paedophiles that they must be?

oh fuck off from a Irish perspective.
irelands location and the realities of having to put up a hard boarder within ireland are the reason not to join the Schengen area

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

oh fuck off from a Irish perspective.
irelands location and the realities of having to put up a hard boarder within ireland are the reason not to join the Schengen area

Nonsense, Ireland made a choice to stay in the Common Travel Area rather than Schengen long before the spectre of Brexit reared it's head. That choice was made as it was considered beneficial to the people of ROI to do so, it is still considered beneficial to continue along those lines. Ireland can leave the Common Travel Area any time it chooses.

 

[The39thStep]

oh fuck off from a Irish perspective.
irelands location and the realities of having to put up a hard boarder within ireland are the reason not to join the Schengen area

language please