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A thank you to Brexiteers.

Ipsos-MORI have just released its latest Brexit polling.

Lots in there but one, possibly unsurprising, feature is that views appear to be firming up about the merits or otherwise of Brexit:

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My eye was taken by the 10% of self-identifying remain voters & 26% leave who expressed the view that Brexit had made their daily life better. I wonder what those folk are seeing as better in their daily lives?
 
Ipsos-MORI have just released its latest Brexit polling.

Lots in there but one, possibly unsurprising, feature is that views appear to be firming up about the merits or otherwise of Brexit:

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My eye was taken by the 10% of self-identifying remain voters & 26% leave who expressed the view that Brexit had made their daily life better. I wonder what those folk are seeing as better in their daily lives?
Increase of intolerance towards immigrants and asylum seekers? Anti-GRT law now in place, Rwanda scheme, eg.
Not all Brexiters, obvs, but there were definitely a lot of people who voted leave because they're flag-shagger types.
 
Ipsos-MORI have just released its latest Brexit polling.

Lots in there but one, possibly unsurprising, feature is that views appear to be firming up about the merits or otherwise of Brexit:

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My eye was taken by the 10% of self-identifying remain voters & 26% leave who expressed the view that Brexit had made their daily life better. I wonder what those folk are seeing as better in their daily lives?
It's fascinating that, 1 in 4 leave voters saying their lives are better because of brexit, seems a lot to me because i can't imagine what they mean like in what ways their life is better, but on the other hand 80% of people saying its either not impacted them at all or made things worse for them suggests that 'we got brexit done' isn't likely to be that great a vote winner going forward is it.
 
It's fascinating that, 1 in 4 leave voters saying their lives are better because of brexit, seems a lot to me because i can't imagine what they mean like in what ways their life is better, but on the other hand 80% of people saying its either not impacted them at all or made things worse for them suggests that 'we got brexit done' isn't likely to be that great a vote winner going forward is it.
Imagine how shit their lives must have been before if the current clusterfuck is preferable
 
seriously what could they be thinking of as we haven't even got the super strength hoovers yet.
Suspect its more like when you've got a dawning awareness that you've done a stupid thing but think you'd better just brazen it out and pretend you totally meant to do that all along and are in fact delighted with your choice of having put salt in your tea.
 
It's fascinating that, 1 in 4 leave voters saying their lives are better because of brexit, seems a lot to me because i can't imagine what they mean like in what ways their life is better, but on the other hand 80% of people saying its either not impacted them at all or made things worse for them suggests that 'we got brexit done' isn't likely to be that great a vote winner going forward is it.
I think it demonstrates, once again, the power of the affective domain for a fair chunk of that faithful demographic including the "lexit" believers who regard their daily lives as improved because they think they live in a context in which socialism in one country is now, hypothetically, a greater possibility. ie. nothing whatsoever to do with the lived reality of their daily lives.
 
yeah, that 1 in 4 of leavers probably did ignore the 'daily life' bit and chose to interpret the question as are you happy we left.
 
I think it demonstrates, once again, the power of the affective domain for a fair chunk of that faithful demographic including the "lexit" believers who regard their daily lives as improved because they think they live in a context in which socialism in one country is now, hypothetically, a greater possibility. ie. nothing whatsoever to do with the lived reality of their daily lives.
i think there is no chance for socialism in one country in the uk anymore as everyone wants out. socialism in four nations on a good day
 
seriously what could they be thinking of as we haven't even got the super strength hoovers yet.
Suspect its more like when you've got a dawning awareness that you've done a stupid thing but think you'd better just brazen it out and pretend you totally meant to do that all along and are in fact delighted with your choice of having put salt in your tea.

I think it was established on previous threads, or possibly this one, that "getting a warm fuzzy feeling when you think about Britain no longer being in the EU" technically counts as a benefit of Brexit.
 
true. and maybe those 1 in 4 remember to do that daily, making their daily lives significantly nicer.
25% of 52% of 72.2% = ~9.4% of the adult population reporting better lives. it'll be fewer than that of course because many of the aged leave voters will have gone on to a perhaps better world, which may of course have been a significant improvement in their lives: don't suppose many of them completed the survey tho
 
It's fascinating that, 1 in 4 leave voters saying their lives are better because of brexit, seems a lot to me because i can't imagine what they mean like in what ways their life is better, but on the other hand 80% of people saying its either not impacted them at all or made things worse for them suggests that 'we got brexit done' isn't likely to be that great a vote winner going forward is it.
Some people must feel their lives are better because they stuffed some foreigners and have a government that wants to send others to Rwanda.
 
I think it was established on previous threads, or possibly this one, that "getting a warm fuzzy feeling when you think about Britain no longer being in the EU" technically counts as a benefit of Brexit.

bullshit doesn't count :mad:

need to be a tangible

and anyone who gets a warm fuzzy feeling in that manner of brexit need shooting
 
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Ipsos-MORI have just released its latest Brexit polling.

Lots in there but one, possibly unsurprising, feature is that views appear to be firming up about the merits or otherwise of Brexit:

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My eye was taken by the 10% of self-identifying remain voters & 26% leave who expressed the view that Brexit had made their daily life better. I wonder what those folk are seeing as better in their daily lives?

Crowns on pint glasses!
Blue passports!!!!
 
Another Brexit bill to be paid


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Not interested in anything he has to say. I am ignoring him after an excess of negativity and borderline trolling.

If anyone else wishes to make the same point - whatever it is - I may well respond to it if I feel the need.
There's more to Pickman's model than meets the eye. It's worth the effort, in the long run. I've met the bloke, and he's sound (and he'll probably rip me a new one for saying this :) )
 
is this actually a real thing i can't tell:
It looks like, if you want to take your laptop (or any other thing that's valuable and used for your work) from here to the EU and back with you it will cost you import duties or you have to buy a 'carnet' for £300?
 
The awful sound of the stable door being bolted long after the horse has bolted is unmistakable. But the commitment that an incoming “Labour government would not seek to rejoin the EU’s single market or customs union or reintroduce freedom of movement” at least indicates some recognition at the long term damage done.

 
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