Donna Ferentes
jubliado
You can't really use a double negative in that way.DrRingDing said:
A new Alex Jones movie - Cripes! Alert the mods!!
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Donna Ferentes said:
Not now donna I'm in a delicate state.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
taffboy gwyrdd said:
So what though? How does that help me? And no, i don't really think he does.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
DrRingDing said:
LOL (or not) I remember Dennis Healy (another member) being cornered on them not long after their very existence ceased to be denied. He forwarded the new blag that they were just some kind of social get-together group. For sure. That's why they need all the secrecy, because they're discussing the nose to the Chataux de la jour or summat.
I was re-reading Mark Steeles excellent "Things Can Only Get Better" recently. He recalls that very shortly after John Smith died, while others were saying how tasteless it would be to speculate on a new leader, up pops Comrade Healy on the Today Programme to say how Blair is the natural successor. Funny old world innit.
Still, global elites couldnt possibly get together and DECIDE things, that's just too far out. That's a CONSPIRACY THEORY and thereby it's nonsense. I mean how could rich people, "leaders" and "opinion formers" actually MEET UP IN SECRETand MAKE DECISIONS? Pure lunacy.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
editor said:
Now who's causing trouble?
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
editor said:
You can keep your abuse to yourself ta very much.
You're behaving like a spoilt public school girl.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
editor said:
How do you think your harassment of me on this thread appears to others?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Fuck me, more paranoid shit for idiots from a moronic "truthseeker". Just what the world needs 
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
taffboy gwyrdd said:
Alex Jones is a fucking moron who's not even a tenth of a percent right about anything.
Here's a list of the man's fucking bullshit
From here stop promoting this man's bullshit and just bow your head and take and running start towards the nearest wall, it's less painful, and damages less braincells than listening to that fucking moron.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay...66&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Here's the flim FWIW. I was a bit disappointed. Too much right wing crap and certainly errors of fact as normal, so I dont need to be told he has some odious nutjob opinons.
However, IMO he still has commentaries on the global elite that too many liberals and leftists are keen to bury their head in the sand over.
Here's the flim FWIW. I was a bit disappointed. Too much right wing crap and certainly errors of fact as normal, so I dont need to be told he has some odious nutjob opinons.
However, IMO he still has commentaries on the global elite that too many liberals and leftists are keen to bury their head in the sand over.
brixtonvilla
should be Oslovilla, really
taffboy gwyrdd said:
You say "bury their head in the sand over", I'd say "Ignore it for the hysterical, attention-seeking fact-free bollocks that it is".
You say tom-ar-to...
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I've never heard of anything that Alex Jones has said that's actually true or relevant which hasn't also been said, in saner and more accurate form that doesn't insist on tying it in to the black helicopter theory, by other people. He doesn't come up with "scoops", he picks up on things other people have said and tweaks and re-interprets them to bolster his narrative.
In fact he specifically serves to reduce the credibility of others. For isntance: there was a case here where somebody mentioned the US police and military having sonic weapons. This is quite true, you can go and look at the website for the damn things, see photos of them mounted on police trucks during the Republican party conference (I don't think they were _used_ there, no indication of that) and read about them being shipped to Iraq (where I might well imagine they were tested). But because there was a prisonplanet link about it being quoted, people assumed it was bollocks. That sort of thing hardly helps.
In fact he specifically serves to reduce the credibility of others. For isntance: there was a case here where somebody mentioned the US police and military having sonic weapons. This is quite true, you can go and look at the website for the damn things, see photos of them mounted on police trucks during the Republican party conference (I don't think they were _used_ there, no indication of that) and read about them being shipped to Iraq (where I might well imagine they were tested). But because there was a prisonplanet link about it being quoted, people assumed it was bollocks. That sort of thing hardly helps.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
FridgeMagnet said:
People always assuming he's wrong certainly doesnt help. I agree he interprets known things to bolster a narrative. Not VERY known things though, and I would contend there is something to the narrative. governments certainly are getting more authoritarian, and using technology to aid it. Mass databasing of populations is a current reality and on balance it is more likely to have been discussed and planned by the likes of B.Berg than not so.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
I would contend that there is _nothing_ to the narrative, because the barking black-helicopter immigrant-invasion UN-wants-to-own-us the-Illuminati-run-everything stuff is absolutely central to it. You can't leave that out of what he says. It's not a metaphor for anything, he's like Icke, it's central to everything he says. And he distorts and reinterprets things to fulfil that, in a way which either misinforms people who take the pieces at face value, or makes the underlying event seem unlikely to people who are sceptical even if it's true, or gives reactionary government-defenders ammunition to bash everyone even referring to it.taffboy gwyrdd said:
PrisonPlanet is what I term a "poison source", one which actually _reduces_ the credibility of anything appearing on it, and thus one which you want to stay as far away from as possible. It's like having the BNP agree with you. Even if they do, it's best not to mention it, and the very idea might give you pause.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
alex jones does a huge fucking discredit to anyone trying to criticise the way the US government/american hegemony works and the disproportionate influence stuff like this does have on society. the individual members of bilderber do no doubt include some very influential people, but there's no shadowy "hidden hand" controlling everything - the world is too complex for that.
as other people have pointed he is a conservative and keeps some very dodgy company. he is an anti-semite. he could allmost be described as a "useful idiot" to the us government, the chinese government (which he never mentions, and believe it or not, america is not the source of all the world's problems) and anyone with an interest in keeping certain things hidden from the public, because his theories are so bizarre, and more to the point, they are focused on attacking people with no relevance, such as immigrants, jews, and fucking lizards.
supposing i was involved in some massive conspiracy, if i was, say, a senior officer in the CIA who had been involved in planning 9-11, quite possibly the best thing i could do, if i wanted to cover it up and ensure that the truth never got out, would be to go to alex jones and tell him what had happened, so that later i could deny it all and say that it was just the rantings of a maniac. if he printed this on his site then very few people would believe it at all and no serious media outlet would touch the story. This is the same site that prints allegations some geek made up on the internet for a laugh about Dick Cheney's ritual sacrifices. his word against mine and would this ever stand up in a court of law.
what quicker way to discredit someone than to tweak their views to suit yours, so it looks like they're talking utter bollocks and being "paranoid"? I can't say enough how much i despise him and people like him and it never ceases to amaze me how so many people fall for this utter claptrap.
The ID card thing - it is very worrying indeed how our civil liberties are being taken away and i am very opposed to such a thing - but anyone with this point of view is made to look like a nutter due to the exaggerated sensationalist, racist burblings of him and his kind . anyone who questions the official story of 9-11 can be instantly discredited because of this cunt and his views. There ARE things that dont add up - why were bin laden's family flown out of the US at a time when all flights were grounded, and why were there massive amounts of movements of stocks a few weeks before it happened? But the shite he talks about jews, the us government and holographic planes just discredit any attempts of a serious debate on this issue and makes me seriously question his motivations.
as other people have pointed he is a conservative and keeps some very dodgy company. he is an anti-semite. he could allmost be described as a "useful idiot" to the us government, the chinese government (which he never mentions, and believe it or not, america is not the source of all the world's problems) and anyone with an interest in keeping certain things hidden from the public, because his theories are so bizarre, and more to the point, they are focused on attacking people with no relevance, such as immigrants, jews, and fucking lizards.
supposing i was involved in some massive conspiracy, if i was, say, a senior officer in the CIA who had been involved in planning 9-11, quite possibly the best thing i could do, if i wanted to cover it up and ensure that the truth never got out, would be to go to alex jones and tell him what had happened, so that later i could deny it all and say that it was just the rantings of a maniac. if he printed this on his site then very few people would believe it at all and no serious media outlet would touch the story. This is the same site that prints allegations some geek made up on the internet for a laugh about Dick Cheney's ritual sacrifices. his word against mine and would this ever stand up in a court of law.
what quicker way to discredit someone than to tweak their views to suit yours, so it looks like they're talking utter bollocks and being "paranoid"? I can't say enough how much i despise him and people like him and it never ceases to amaze me how so many people fall for this utter claptrap.
The ID card thing - it is very worrying indeed how our civil liberties are being taken away and i am very opposed to such a thing - but anyone with this point of view is made to look like a nutter due to the exaggerated sensationalist, racist burblings of him and his kind . anyone who questions the official story of 9-11 can be instantly discredited because of this cunt and his views. There ARE things that dont add up - why were bin laden's family flown out of the US at a time when all flights were grounded, and why were there massive amounts of movements of stocks a few weeks before it happened? But the shite he talks about jews, the us government and holographic planes just discredit any attempts of a serious debate on this issue and makes me seriously question his motivations.
Crispy said:
Erm - noticed the correlations between social class/wealth/religion/race and breeding rates?
Ethiopia vs Eritreia?
Seen that Pope when he's about?
Oh, true, Tony and Hazel and Gordon and Ruth and friends didn't make it *policy*, they just made "faith schools"...
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
taffboy gwyrdd said:
I find assuming Alex Jones is wrong about something is a firm and solid base of operation.
If Alex Jones walked into a room shaking an umbrella, wearing a wet raincoat, and annoucing it was raining. I'd still check out the window.
Taffboy I say this with authority, you're a fucking moron.
Pop quiz. Alex Jones believes the global elites will kill 80% of the world. On sept 11th 2007 Jones and a bunch of fuckwits yell all about 911 outside the fox news studios in new york. Jones gets arrested. The evil illuminati free him after a few hours.
EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS?
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