“Rings of Power” - "Lord of the Rings" television adaptation

[Reno]

Why wouldn't it? I don't know, I don't follow Amazon I'm just wondering whether it'll be on terrestrial tv any time.



Yep could do. I try not to torrent new films, I assume they're the riskiest for infringing copyright and getting viruses. I might do that in a year or so.

Streaming services like Netflix and Amazon don't licence their content to tv channels, the idea is to get more subscribers with the stuff they produce. With this in particular, Amazon spent a billion dollars on this, to massively increase their subscribers.

Doesn't matter if you torrent this now or in a year, legally the situation is the same. Any film or tv series with rights held by a major studio or corporation is a risk, though the U.K. pursues this less aggressively than Germany, where I live. If you torrent the original Star Wars now, it makes no difference to Disney that was made nearly half a century ago, if they find out, they will sue you. Its always a good idea to invest in a decent VPN for torrenting.

 

[kebabking]

Gandalf of the books is an avatar of some older entity iirc, so could be him.

I think that's Olorin. Like Saruman, Radagast and the two blue wizards, he's a Maia (angel-level entity?) who is sent to rally the peoples of ME against Sauron (also a Maia). In the books all five arrive together in their avatar forms.

Could be of course, lots of the timings are all over the place, so why not the plot - which, to an extent, is details, not intrinsic story.

 

[two sheds]

Streaming services like Netflix and Amazon don't licence their content to tv channels, the idea is to get more subscribers with the stuff they produce. With this in particular, Amazon spent a billion dollars on this, to massively increase their subscribers.

Doesn't matter if you torrent this now or in a year, legally the situation is the same. Any film or tv series with rights held by a major studio or corporation is a risk, though the U.K. pursues this less aggressively than Germany, where I live. If you torrent the original Star Wars now, it makes no difference to Disney that was made nearly half a century ago, if they find out, they will sue you. Its always a good idea to invest in a decent VPN for torrenting.

Ta. I do have a vpn but I've been assuming that they're more likely to go for someone who's streaming immediately after it's come out when they're losing more cash because of it, and that people will tend to flag streams with viruses a year or so afterwards.

I'm not that bothered really - I don't tend to enjoy new hollywood type films - just will likely be interested to see it some time.

 

[Petcha]

I've been torrenting everything for years without a VPN and never had any issues, neither have any of my mates. I happen to have Amazon Prime though so no need in this case. I used to feel a little guilt but fuck it, cost of living n all that

 

[platinumsage]

Just read the appendices. There's only a few sentences covering the end of the 1st age and start of the second. $250 million for them lol.

 

[killer b]

Just read the appendices. There's only a few sentences covering the end of the 1st age and start of the second. $250 million for them lol.

They aren't paying for a few sentences of content, they're paying to make a TV series in the Tolkien universe. It'll probably be worth it tbf

 

[platinumsage]

They aren't paying for a few sentences of content, they're paying to make a TV series in the Tolkien universe. It'll probably be worth it tbf

No they literally paid $250 million just for the rights to the LOTR appendices i.e. pre-LOTR stuff that isn't the Silmarillion. The costs for filming it are additional to that.

 

[killer b]

They paid 250 million for the rights to make a LOTR TV series. That the story is loosely based on three sentences from the appendices of LOTR is just a fig leaf for the Tolkien estate, who like to imagine they are protecting his legacy.

 

[Reno]

It's seems an insane amount of money to spend just on rights, but for Bezos it's no more than pocket change. The benefits for Amazon are unique, unlike with Netflix its streaming service is a side business. If they increases their Prime membership that also means they'll sell more stuff via Amazon.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Ta. I do have a vpn but I've been assuming that they're more likely to go for someone who's streaming immediately after it's come out when they're losing more cash because of it, and that people will tend to flag streams with viruses a year or so afterwards.

I'm not that bothered really - I don't tend to enjoy new hollywood type films - just will likely be interested to see it some time.

I've never seen a virus in a film Torrent. You'd have to be pretty daft to realise it wasnt a film. Plus you're on linux anyway.

 

[Petcha]

So it's bombing with viewers and a hit with critics. But Amazon won't open comments on it.

On review aggregator site Rotten Tomatoes, the show has an 84% average rating from critics, but a 38% average audience score. Even on IMDb, the film and TV site owned by Amazon, the show has attracted 17,500 one-star ratings, 25% of the reviews for the title, although many of them have been disregarded by the site’s “weighted average” ratings , which attempt to downrate “unusual voting activity”.

Amazon delays The Rings of Power ratings to combat fake reviews

Move by Prime Video comes amid ‘anti-woke’ backlash to diverse casting in Lord of the Rings prequel

www.theguardian.com

 

[Petcha]

I've never seen a virus in a film Torrent. You'd have to be pretty daft to realise it wasnt a film. Plus you're on linux anyway.

i've never seen a virus either and i gather you have to be warned a few times anyway by your ISP in the UK to stop, and ive never even got one of those. tis for another thread tho maybe!

 

[kebabking]

The Tolkien forums/pages are seething with wild hatred - I wonder how many of the worst reviews are from purist nutters who either watched it determined to hate it, or didn't watch it all...

There are plenty of folk who still get uncomfortably enraged about the film's 20 years after they came out - there are Tolkien forums who will ban people who casually mention the films.

In short, beware the nutters, for they are nuts.

 

[strung out]

So it's bombing with viewers and a hit with critics. But Amazon won't open comments on it.

Amazon delays The Rings of Power ratings to combat fake reviews

Move by Prime Video comes amid ‘anti-woke’ backlash to diverse casting in Lord of the Rings prequel

www.theguardian.com

It's getting low ratings on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes because it has black people in it. Same with any TV show that's 'too woke' at the moment.

 

[Petcha]

It's getting low ratings on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes because it has black people in it. Same with any TV show that's 'too woke' at the moment.

Bridgerton seems to have done ok on all the rating sites

 

[Cid]

Yeah, there's standard evidence of review-bombing/ratioing from the culture warriors on this.

 

[strung out]

Bridgerton seems to have done ok on all the rating sites

Doesn't have a pre-existing fanbase of angry white male nerds, who would be motivated to review bomb a show to own the libs.

 

[Petcha]

Doesn't have a pre-existing fanbase of angry white male nerds, who would be motivated to review bomb a show to own the libs.

Well the guardian doesn't really fit the above ^^ demographic and the comments on a very middling review which only praises the visuals on there aren't exactly positive. a bit half and half like on here i guess.

i seem to recall peter jackson almost got lynched though for changing some stuff so i get your point.

 

[Cid]

I think that's Olorin. Like Saruman, Radagast and the two blue wizards, he's a Maia (angel-level entity?) who is sent to rally the peoples of ME against Sauron (also a Maia). In the books all five arrive together in their avatar forms.

Could be of course, lots of the timings are all over the place, so why not the plot - which, to an extent, is details, not intrinsic story.

I reckon it'll be one of the Maiar with a bit of retconning thrown in. It's not a particular stretch I don't think, I haven't revisited any of the source material but the lotr wikis are fairly vague about what they were up to in the second age. Also it has to be a known figure right? Gotta get that fan service in. Sauron is presumably working on <redacted> already, and doesn't fit anything I've seen about er... his form in this age.

 

[Cid]

Well the guardian doesn't really fit the above ^^ demographic and the comments on a very middling review which only praises the visuals on there aren't exactly positive. a bit half and half like on here i guess.

i seem to recall peter jackson almost got lynched though for changing some stuff so i get your point.

Yes, but if you look at e.g IMDB you'll see reviews with 'was pleasantly surprised, not great, but fine' getting hit with 2k dislikes to 500 likes.

 

[strung out]

Well the guardian doesn't really fit the above ^^ demographic and the comments on a very middling review which only praises the visuals on there aren't exactly positive. a bit half and half like on here i guess.

i seem to recall peter jackson almost got lynched though for changing some stuff so i get your point.

You mean the Guardian review which gave it four stars out of five?

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power review – so astounding it makes House of the Dragon look amateur

The visual splendour of this rich, gorgeous Tolkien drama will make you gawp throughout. Watch it on the largest TV you can

www.theguardian.com

 

[strung out]

Anyway, I thought it was fucking great, and anyone who thinks it wasn't is probably a racist, and definitely has no taste.

 

[Petcha]

You mean the Guardian review which gave it four stars out of five?

The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power review – so astounding it makes House of the Dragon look amateur

The visual splendour of this rich, gorgeous Tolkien drama will make you gawp throughout. Watch it on the largest TV you can

www.theguardian.com

If you read between the lines there, hell, even the headline, its all about the amazing visual effects. Which is presumably where they spunked the billion on

 

[platinumsage]

What did the dwarves have in a box? Appendix B says mithril, but it felt more like a gemstone.

 

[Cid]

What did the dwarves have in a box? Appendix B says mithril, but it felt more like gemstone.

Arkenstone was my thought, but I think that's anachronistic.

 

[Cid]

If you read between the lines there, hell, even the headline, its all about the amazing visual effects. Which is presumably where they spunked the billion on

Yes, but your point was that it's a hit with critics and bombing with audiences... But that's largely going to be review bombing at 1 star e.g this is the imdb ratings page. Super polarised in a way that really doesn't reflect the actual quality of the show.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Yes, but your point was that it's a hit with critics and bombing with audiences... But that's largely going to be review bombing at 1 star e.g this is the imdb ratings page. Super polarised in a way that really doesn't reflect the actual quality of the show.

Just racists being racist

 

[Reno]

So it's bombing with viewers and a hit with critics. But Amazon won't open comments on it.

Amazon delays The Rings of Power ratings to combat fake reviews

Move by Prime Video comes amid ‘anti-woke’ backlash to diverse casting in Lord of the Rings prequel

www.theguardian.com

It's getting review bombed. A film or series getting review bombed means that trolls create fake accounts to drive down the ratings of something they don't like. Usually this is done by right wingers who regard something as "woke". It's no reflection of how average viewers who aren't rabid racists regard the series

 

[MickiQ]

Ta. I do have a vpn but I've been assuming that they're more likely to go for someone who's streaming immediately after it's come out when they're losing more cash because of it, and that people will tend to flag streams with viruses a year or so afterwards.

I'm not that bothered really - I don't tend to enjoy new hollywood type films - just will likely be interested to see it some time.

I download shit loads of stuff, I use a VPN that offers me the choice of endpoint so I can pretend to be pretty much anywhere in the free world. If I select one in the UK and try and connect to Pirate Bay I always seem to get blocked so I suspect the bulk of UK ISP's block it by default. I normally rotate randomly between Dublin, New York and Zurich (If I could only travel as easily in the real world as in the virtual one).
As soon as possible after I have downloaded something I move it out of the Torrents directory into another one which isn't shared. They can only find uploaders/downloaders whilst they're active so once I've done that then it's gone and not being shared anymore. The new releases are the best ones to download since there are so many seeders it will come down very quickly and I can move it and stop the torrent client (not active when not downloading).
This does mean that if I want something that's not the latest and greatest it can take a while since it comes in fits and starts over a fairly long period of time but time is not of the essence to me.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

I download shit loads of stuff, I use a VPN that offers me the choice of endpoint so I can pretend to be pretty much anywhere in the free world. If I select one in the UK and try and connect to Pirate Bay I always seem to get blocked so I suspect the bulk of UK ISP's block it by default. I normally rotate randomly between Dublin, New York and Zurich (If I could only travel as easily in the real world as in the virtual one).
As soon as possible after I have downloaded something I move it out of the Torrents directory into another one which isn't shared. They can only find uploaders/downloaders whilst they're active so once I've done that then it's gone and not being shared anymore. The new releases are the best ones to download since there are so many seeders it will come down very quickly and I can move it and stop the torrent client (not active when not downloading).
This does mean that if I want something that's not the latest and greatest it can take a while since it comes in fits and starts over a fairly long period of time but time is not of the essence to me.

For older stuff you probably want a private tracker. IPTorrents is good.