X Factor 2009!

[May Kasahara]

Why did marshmallow man have such an angry face? That was weird.

I love that the Mr Stay-Puft costume looked like it had been bought from a pound shop

Lucie really shot herself in the foot with that Disney shite. For a while I was somewhat won over by her torch song performance, but this weekend just showed her up as the personality-free zone she currently is.

 

[keithy]

Kabbes, just SHUT UP!!! Waaaaa

 

[ChrisFilter]

I said to the mister last week that Ollie looked like a greasy roast potato that had been left to go cold in the pan. Surprisingly, he agreed straight away.

Ha! I said he looked like a potato as well

 

[Hellsbells]

I was confused by Lucie's song choice for the sing off. The last few weeks she'd suddenly morphed into this Avril Lavigne wannabe, which the judges all seemed to think was great. Then in the sing off, she resorts back to the old fashioned dreary nothingy ballads. Hmmmm great move

 

[electrogirl]

It's not the fact that people vote that I don't understand, leccy. It's the fact that they want to vote for someone so bad. Like, objectively bad. We're not talking about a matter of taste, here, we're talking about someone who can't really sing and is very, very boring to watch. Who sits there and actually thinks, "Yes, Lucie was the best act and I think this so much that I want to register my approval in the proscribed fashion."? It totally boggles my mind.

I don't think it's that unprecedented though, people pay money to go see totally bland popstars that I think are shit and they think are great. It is subjective.

 

[electrogirl]

I said to the mister last week that Ollie looked like a greasy roast potato that had been left to go cold in the pan. Surprisingly, he agreed straight away.

Hahaha

But really, can Joe stop smiling at me? His smile is so white and manic and constant he looks like a pyschokiller edging towards me witha knife 'i won't hurt you, i promise, come here...'

 

[electrogirl]

I was confused by Lucie's song choice for the sing off. The last few weeks she'd suddenly morphed into this Avril Lavigne wannabe, which the judges all seemed to think was great. Then in the sing off, she resorts back to the old fashioned dreary nothingy ballads. Hmmmm great move

She didn't even look interested herself while she was singing it, it was like she'd thought 'god, this is genuinely boring' and jsut went through the motions.

 

[RubyBlue]

I'm sort of surprised at the amount of folk posting on this shite show - I actually think Kabbes is most realistic, and has valid points but still wonders why he bothers

 

[kabbes]

I'm sort of surprised at the amount of folk posting on this shite show - I actually think Kabbes is most realistic, and has valid points but still wonders why he bothers

The kabbess finds it entertaining, so I end up taking it in too.

But actually it IS entertaining. After all, it has all been carefully calculated to be as cynically entertaining as possible.

 

[Looby]

I'm sort of surprised at the amount of folk posting on this shite show - I actually think Kabbes is most realistic, and has valid points but still wonders why he bothers

I'm sort of surprised about the amount of people come on this thread just to say how shit they think the show is.

 

[May Kasahara]

I'm surprised people go on the Drugs forum and blether on about their latest experience, but not enough to make me go in there and tell them that.

 

[clicker]

I still reckon Joe is Cheryl's long lost brother.....Jeremy Kyle is going to enter stage left at some time with her apologetic looking father.

 

[butchersapron]

I'm sort of surprised about the amount of people come on this thread just to say how shit they think the show is.

They think they're missing out but they're too thick to work out why.

 

[kazza007]

I heard Louis has known the twins since they were children, he's a 'close family friend', and he and Simon have nudged them forward through each stage of the competition, and the phone lines are rigged to favour them.

 

[kabbes]

You don't need ro rig the lines when you control every aspect of the production.

 

[electrogirl]

You don't need ro rig the lines when you control every aspect of the production.

I still don't think that's entirely true, I think you dismiss the audience as more passive than they are.

Oh btw everyone, Louis did stick his fingers up at the audience. I love him more and more he's so patty and pathetic it's brilliant.

 

[zoooo]

I used to DESPISE Louis, but he's grown on me.
I remember when he voted a really good female singer out, just to save that shite Irish girl group a few years back. Ooh I hated him.

 

[kabbes]

It's not so much about the audience being passive as it is to do with the fact that the audience will vote for what they enjoy, which means that you can seriously influence the vote depending on what songs you have people sing. Take Lucie, for instance -- how much of her lack of votes was down to people genuinely thinking she was the worst singer and how much was due to the fact that she sung a song most people have never heard of and probably didn't like very much?

 

[electrogirl]

Yeah of course, but I don't really understand what you're saying, that the production team wanted Lucie out? I actually think they chose that song because they were confused about what her image should be and they tried to tap into High School Musical fans, me and you might not recognise the song but millions of 8 year olds will.

 

[kabbes]

Yeah of course, but I don't really understand what you're saying, that the production team wanted Lucie out? I actually think they chose that song because they were confused about what her image should be and they tried to tap into High School Musical fans, me and you might not recognise the song but millions of 8 year olds will.

Yes, I'm saying that the production team had decided that it was pretty much time for Lucie to go.

 

[electrogirl]

I used to DESPISE Louis, but he's grown on me.
I remember when he voted a really good female singer out, just to save that shite Irish girl group a few years back. Ooh I hated him.

Yeah I think he's just really funny how petty he is. Like he gets pwned by Simon every week with scathing put downs and he can never think of anything to say back and then Simon will say something like, I dunno, call Cheryl 'Carol' or something by accident and Louis will go 'SIMON! Her names CHERYL! Hhahahaha you said CAROL Simon! What's her name Simon??'

Like that's all he has got.

 

[kabbes]

Let's not forget, for example, that this is a show that pretends that 4 people personally audition something akin to 100,000 people. Something that would take 20 five-day weeks doing 8-hour days even if each audition was only 30 seconds long.

 

[electrogirl]

Yes, I'm saying that the production team had decided that it was pretty much time for Lucie to go.

Yeah I don't agree with that at all. Like I say, High School Musical/Camp Rock are massive with little kids and they probably thought it was quite a contrived way for her to get votes. She was never going to last unless she found a target audience so I guess it was a last ditch attempt to make her appeal to some one. It just didn't work though.

 

[kabbes]

Yeah I think he's just really funny how petty he is. Like he gets pwned by Simon every week with scathing put downs and he can never think of anything to say back and then Simon will say something like, I dunno, call Cheryl 'Carol' or something by accident and Louis will go 'SIMON! Her names CHERYL! Hhahahaha you said CAROL Simon! What's her name Simon??'

Like that's all he has got.

I wonder even how many of the put downs are pre-scripted, or at least vaguely planned.

 

[electrogirl]

Let's not forget, for example, that this is a show that pretends that 4 people personally audition something akin to 100,000 people. Something that would take 20 five-day weeks doing 8-hour days even if each audition was only 30 seconds long.

I'm not saying it's not manipulative, it's clearly manipulative, I just think that they don't have some magical crystal ball that tells them what the audience will like when it gets to the live shows. What about when Olly did that lamo Robbie Williams song? Why did they choose that? Cos they wanted him out? It's only now that he's found his dancey niche that he's popular.

 

[kabbes]

Yeah I don't agree with that at all. Like I say, High School Musical/Camp Rock are massive with little kids and they probably thought it was quite a contrived way for her to get votes. She was never going to last unless she found a target audience so I guess it was a last ditch attempt to make her appeal to some one. It just didn't work though.

I think you underestimate the level of analysis that can be thrown at phone voting when you have the statistical breakdown of who voted from which area of the country for which singer singing which song on a weekly basis for six years.

 

[kabbes]

I'm not saying it's not manipulative, it's clearly manipulative, I just think that they don't have some magical crystal ball that tells them what the audience will like when it gets to the live shows. What about when Olly did that lamo Robbie Williams song? Why did they choose that? Cos they wanted him out? It's only now that he's found his dancey niche that he's popular.

It's more than manipulative -- it outright lies.

For example, the days (prior to this series) that they supposedly had open auditions -- in reality, the judges weren't even there. They had an open day to get the crowd shots needed for interspersing the segments and then they had a team of researchers give a quick blast to each idiot. Meanwhile, the researchers already know who they want to appear on camera based on the preview tapes people have sent in.

The whole thing is one massive lie from start to finish.

 

[Hellsbells]

yeah, louis has a good scriptwriter this series.
I love it when he bobs his little head up and down when someone sings a song he likes.
Also, did anyone else notice that Dermot ruffled his hair and then kissed him on the head on Saturday? What was THAT all about?!?!
I don't think the xfactor even needs contestants anymore. They're so insignificant in comparison to everything else.

 

[kabbes]

I should say that they have got it obviously wrong on occassion -- sometimes things can happen to bugger up the most carefully laid plans. Like when Leon beat Rhydian -- it seemed to me that wasn't in the script and it was caused by the phone lines simply overloading.

 

[electrogirl]

I should say that they have got it obviously wrong on occassion -- sometimes things can happen to bugger up the most carefully laid plans. Like when Leon beat Rhydian -- it seemed to me that wasn't in the script and it was caused by the phone lines simply overloading.

I agree with you to a certain extent and of course by the time of the final they know who they want to win. But do you really think that Leon won because of phone lines and not because that's who the audience chose? I think it's a bit patronising. What about Will and Gareth, do you not think they probabyl would've preferred Gareth to win? No matter how much the production team try and manipulate I still think an audience has control over what they think of contestants.