Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

[shifting gears]

So what's a good way to let Muslims in this country know that lots of non-Muslims don't bear them any ill will? Serious question. How do we counteract the EDL message? Even it's just a FB like or a tweet or something.

For starters let any idiots at work/the pub etc know that they're spouting racist, reactionary bollocks when they're straying into 'muslamiterroristjihad' territory

 

[spring-peeper]

Terrorism - in the mainstream use - is an act designed to cause terror among the general public and forcefully impose a course of action on them/the state. After beheading someone the beheader here said:

You people will never be safe. Remove your government, they don't care about you."

More to the point, wtf are you on about?

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

 

[butchersapron]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

Just go away.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Attack on Woolwich Mosque apparently https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

Gillingham

 

[Libertad]

Attack on Woolwich Mosque apparently https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

Dead link. Gillingham btw.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Attack on Woolwich Mosque apparently https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

Err.. the caption below that says "A male ran into Gillingham Mosque in #KENT"

 

[spring-peeper]

The fact he said ''remove your government'' would indicate it was terrorism.

oooh - like everyone and their dog doesn't know to say that to make it "terrorist"

 

[shifting gears]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

Are you trolling? Or just properly daft?

 

[friedaweed]

Attack on Woolwich Mosque apparently https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

A male ran into Gillingham Mosque in #KENT & smashed the book case & windows. Got caught by police @diarf9 #woolwich pic.twitter.com/pdVdf2MzLt

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Attack on Woolwich Mosque apparently https://twitter.com/Majstar7/status/337304991872188416/photo/1

Gillingham Kent, going off that link

 

[Dillinger4]

spring-peeper is like that woman trying to pay her parking ticket in jam

no it isn't a parking meter its a car

 

[where to]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.

Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

But if they DID have a real, official Jihad membership card, would it be terrorism then? Tricky.

 

[redsquirrel]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

Oh piss off you idiot.

 

[Roadkill]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

What?

 

[Dillinger4]

Are you trolling? Or just properly daft?

properly daft

 

[cdg]

oooh - like everyone and their dog doesn't know to say that to make it "terrorist"

I don't understand what you mean?

 

[killer b]

she's a prick, ignore her.

 

[Corax]

Yeh.

It's like, the disconnect between the images of them standing around and the headline of it being a major terrorist incident.

"Disconnect" is a verb FFS. There's a perfectly good noun to use, namely "disconnection". Just because Radio 4 have started saying it doesn't mean it's "cool".

With all that's happened today, at least I've got my priorities straight.

 

[weepiper]

Brian Whelan ‏@brianwhelanhack
5m
Edl marching now and chanting, heard glass smash

He's in Woolwich I believe.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

I don't know what to be more impacted by - the tinderbox of lunatic hatred or the equally impressive stalwart of sanity and decency.

I haven't seen much MSM coverage, but I suspect that their appetite to fill space is leading to some irresponsible sensationalism.

There needs to be perspective about this being 1 death, no matter how horrid or unusual the circs.

Disproportion is the act of vultures and opportunists, but they prefer to dwell on their own righteousness, as if other people are somehow less horrified or perturbed.

 

[spring-peeper]

Are you trolling? Or just properly daft?

No, but I am seriously worried about why it is so important to you for it to be terrorism.
Boston marathon was terrorism. This is about a bunch of yahoos wanting publicity.




Anyway, good luck with this. Alerts, etc., what ever - I'm out of this thread. I'll follow it elsewhere.


imo - the argument on the first page about whether or not this was crack or pcp(?) induced was the most interesting part of the thread.

 

[cdg]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.

Yes because they don't go around chopping peoples heads off whilst saying it

Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

Nobody is saying they were, but terrorism isn't just setting off bombs, drive by shootings etc. It appears from footage that there was religious and political motive.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Sounds like a quote that anyone wanting to play terrorist might say.
I've heard identical if not similar posts on here, that does not may you terrorists.


Why is it so hard to entertain the fact this was not some jihad out to destroy London?

Why is it so hard to understand that blowing up a big bomb is not the only form of terrorism?

So they may be unaffiliated and have purposely kept the death toll down (they may yet prove to be affiliated, but I reckon not...), but its quite clear they were using violence to further a political agenda. What more do you want from such an act, before it fits your definition?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Conspiranoids are of course toying with this and that, with nothing as troubling as evidence or more substantial than guess work.

 

[butchersapron]

er?

Brooks Newmark MPVerified account‏@TweetBrooks​

Local mosque in Braintree attacked by man with knives + incendiary device. Man arrested. No one injured. Many thx 2 police 4 swift response.

 

[weepiper]

Daniel Trilling
‏@trillingual
EDL marching outside Woolwich DLR. About 60. Throwing bottles. Police lining up. Many black ppl in neighbourhood running away across square

 

[Dillinger4]

"Disconnect" is a verb FFS. There's a perfectly good noun to use, namely "disconnection". Just because Radio 4 have started saying it doesn't mean it's "cool".

With all that's happened today, at least I've got my priorities straight.

That's what I said.

But mark my words, I am going to haunt you from now until the end of time and correct every single grammatical error and incorrect spelling that you will ever make. I will be your personal pedant. You will rue the day you corrected me.

 

[Buckaroo]

getting my W's mixed up

Those Ws all look the same.

 

[Libertad]

No, but I am seriously worried about why it is so important to you for it to be terrorism.
Boston marathon was terrorism. This is about a bunch of yahoos wanting publicity.




Anyway, good luck with this. Alerts, etc., what ever - I'm out of this thread. I'll follow it elsewhere.


imo - the argument on the first page about whether or not this was crack or pcp(?) induced was the most interesting part of the thread.

This poster is depriving a village somewhere of its idiot.

 

[Frumious B.]

Can we have a big hand to T. Blair for breeding terrorism in Woolwich? I'd like to know what he's got to say about it. If I live long enough I'll be celebrating his death just as cheerfully as Thatcher's.