butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He's changed the opening hasn't he? I'm sure it said something like "yesterday was icy -icy like when...".The article history says it's been changed this morning.
Why the Guardian is going down the pan!
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elbows
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It originally said in the pre-article intro, under the headline, 'Boxing Day 2011' and now its changed to 'a winters day some years back'. It would not surprise me if a Guardian editor originally jazzed it up with boxing day and then had to change it as it was incompatible with the first sentence of the actual story.
The version on his own website has one extra fucking, and an initial reference to his coat being lost at a protest camp years before.
It also has a different title on his website:
The Brindled Hounds
“A sad tale’s best for winter: I have one / Of sprites and goblins.”
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I reckon there might be some internet evidence of Lord Monbiot being elsewhere that (originally) fateful boxing day. Thing's got lazy made up BS written all over it.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the miracle of the returning jacket does strain credibility although he might have spoken to a traveller after going off his ride like a chump
elbows
Well-Known Member
Either that or my simpler explanation of inconsistency between the sub headline and the start of the piece. Although it may have been Monbiot himself who made the initial mistake rather than an editor as I suggested, I dont know.
I finally found a page that had scraped just enough of the original article to demonstrate how poorly the original sentences meshed:
http://www.onenewspage.co.uk/n/World/74rki664a/The-day-my-inner-anarchist-lost-out-to.htm
ie boxing day was at 'about this time of year'? No shit.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
how do you reckon your unharmed and the next minute find your unable to walk ? If your ankles fucked it really hurts a lot
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
It's early for New Year's resolutions, but this one might take a while to get used to: for 2013 we have it as a civic duty to cheer up. Cheer up significantly; infuse debate with optimism and pride. This is unfamiliar territory for any lefty, "onwards, upwards" being more of a free-market mantra.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
thats a five pint rant if ever I read one
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Jodi dean is great - but she's a political idiot.
Shock? Sometimes it's taken half an hour for the pain to override the adrenaline before realising that the injury was worse than just a bit of a bruise. And I've got quite a low pain threshold.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
so while shocked and later in great pain the very first thing we think of doing is walking up to dodgy looking skangers and striking up jovial converstaions with them ?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
yer, I'd go with that. Last time I came off the ride I twisted to fall on my bony hip and it took half hour before I realised I was hurt bad
No, or at least I wouldn't, but I'd be wary of putting myself at risk while already in no fit state. Monbiot's a different class from me, is neither short nor female, and therefore wouldn't necessarily perceive risk in the same way.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
the average sized and aged white male is most likely to be perceived as either a threat or challenge by your average white thug , target of choice more often than not .
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He normally has a phalanx of wadhamites screaming free nelson mandela to protect him.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I wouldn't talk to many other people in A&E because
- I'm usually concentrating on not throwing up when I'm there (I'll be there due to an acute flare-up of my condition)
- I'm in a lot of pain
- I can't think straight, let along have a conversation
- Everyone else is in pain and not wanting a conversation with a stranger
Never know what's going to piss off anti-Guardianistas on this thread the most!
I don't actually think ZW was that bad today -- the end paragraph quoted was the worst of it, some of the preceding stuff (contradicting Tory myths) not nearly so bad IMO.
As 5 pint rants go, I've seen worse -- including from myself
-- and better.DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just marry it m8, stick the graun in a white dress and make an honest paper of it 
May have encountered that same bunch there myself (?) but not that often. Those subways attracted all sorts of street drinker a few years back.
It's all very different round here in Swansea anyway.
Yes fair point, agreeing with that I think. Perhaps it's that which most undermines the accuracy/believability. A well edited anecdote if you like. Some truth, some embellished, plenty left out. Like plenty of 'personal experience' articles from op-ed columnists.
just marry it m8, stick the graun in a white dress and make an honest paper of it
I've always lived in sin when not single
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Monbiot gets 62K pre-tax for the Guardian columns and blogs.
On average he writes about once a fortnight, call it once a week. That piece of tripe collectively set Guardian purchasers back £1,000 on the most modest of calculations.
http://www.monbiot.com/registry-of-interests/
On average he writes about once a fortnight, call it once a week. That piece of tripe collectively set Guardian purchasers back £1,000 on the most modest of calculations.
It's much closer to weekly that his column has appeared in the printed edition this year.
Stupidly overpaid whatever, though. And I don't even hate his stuff ... well not all of it
Stupidly overpaid whatever, though. And I don't even hate his stuff ... well not all of it
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/georgemonbiot
Contributions don't appear to be more than weekly across all platforms.
Contributions don't appear to be more than weekly across all platforms.
Maurice Picarda
Actually, might as well flounce.
No, no. A mere 80% of that.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Probably.
And lodgers? really? He's not charging them very much by the sounds of things. Plus wtf is 'rewilding' and how do I get an advance of £40k to write about it?
