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Why can't we just have a 'standard' border in Northern Ireland re: Brexit

With the use of drone technology, the attackers would be targets, dead ones.

Cool, like James Bond with lasers and stuff? That'd be ace.

I thought they generally fired things like Hellfire and Paveway missiles, much as I love fireworks I think we'd all agree that the union has taken a wrong turn if we are using them on ourselves.
 
Cool, like James Bond with lasers and stuff? That'd be ace.

I thought they generally fired things like Hellfire and Paveway missiles, much as I love fireworks I think we'd all agree that the union has taken a wrong turn if we are using them on ourselves.
yeh you'd be shouting up at the drones 'you won't get me i'm part of the union' but to no avail :(
 
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And for your information RedStag Ireland was a sovereign country before it was invaded and colonised by the British Queen Elizabeth 1.
After the horrors of 1916 and the aftermath the 6 counties remaining in the UK was the worst deal ever for Ireland and it came at a massive cost to the Republic and the North. A cost of lives...in the civil war here which effected every single family living in Eire....

You know fuck all about Ireland and even less about NI.
Nobody with a brain in NI wants Brexit. In fact NI voted against Brexit...And the vast majority voted to remain in the EU.
Brexit: Northern Ireland votes to remain in the EU
And you think Arlene Foster represents the population if NI?
Ha...
Ms Foster is pushing her narrow sectarian unionist agenda. Got it?
She detests Republicans. She is the most sectarian leader NI has had in years. She is single handedly wrecking the peace in NI for her own stupidity.
 
Oh
And for your information RedStag Ireland was a sovereign country before it was invaded and colonised by the British Queen Elizabeth 1.
After the horrors of 1916 and the aftermath the 6 counties remaining in the UK was the worst deal ever for Ireland and it came at a massive cost to the Republic and the North. A cost of lives...in the civil war here which effected every single family living in Eire....

You know fuck all about Ireland and even less about NI.
Nobody with a brain in NI wants Brexit. In fact NI voted against Brexit...And the vast majority voted to remain in the EU.
Brexit: Northern Ireland votes to remain in the EU
And you think Arlene Foster represents the population if NI?
Ha...
Ms Foster is pushing her narrow sectarian unionist agenda. Got it?
She detests Republicans. She is the most sectarian leader NI has had in years. She is single handedly wrecking the peace in NI for her own stupidity.

Absolutely spot on, although - pedantic note, sorry - Elizabeth I was the queen of England, not Britain. :(
 
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And for your information RedStag ...
You know fuck all about Ireland and even less about NI.
Nobody with a brain in NI wants Brexit. In fact NI voted against Brexit...And the vast majority voted to remain in the EU.
Brexit: Northern Ireland votes to remain in the EU
...
N. Ireland voted 55.8% remain. Scotland voted 62% remain. Both will be pulled out of the EU anyway. Some not-much-fun times ahead for everyone. Well, not for Rees Mogg and the like.
 
The only way to resolve the Irish border issue is for Britain to stay in the single market and customs union. So enjoy the same benefits as being in the EU but without having a say.

In other words, we may as well scrap Brexit and stay in the EU and stop the disaster that is descending upon us.

All other options - Canada, Chequers etc... will damage that Irish border and potentially ignite troubles in Northern Ireland as well as causing damage to business and jobs. Do any of us want that?

It's not too late to stop this Tory hard Brexit.
 
The OP is clearly not interested in the answer to its question, so is clearly trolling. It doesn't even seem to be aware that Farage was only ever elected to an organisation that he will soon no longer be eligible for, but now wants him appointed to government. The troll claims that the constitution is important, but wants someone who is unelected to be PM. Whilst there is some disagreement on what the actual solution is, as an effort in old-fashioned trolling (sewing division on the boards), it has singularly failed, with everyone but the OP suggesting that the "Irish question" is going to be very difficult to answer.

Edited to last sentence to say what I meant, rather than the opposite.
 
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much as sitting in my dressing gown working down a kill list while eating monster munch appeals:D:hmm:


it's not appeasement if you refrain from doing something mind-numbingly stupid because its stupid unfortunately none of the fuckwits in favor of this are going to have to man a vcp and be in harms way so less than a 1/3 of the country can feel good.
 
I think people (deliberately?) misunderstand this whole border issue. The Good Friday agreement didn't just set up power sharing - it set up a framework that allowed nationalists to live in Northern Ireland but feel Irish, with all-Ireland institutions etc while letting the unionists still feel British. It was a classic fudge that has (mostly) worked. A hard border just fucks it off completely - and it's about emotion as much as technical trade rules. And unsurprising that the DUP are doing everything they can to see the border return given they were always against the GFA.
 
It might be. It is all very unclear. The EU members might get a bit cheesed off with the UK's changes of plan.
I think the EU members would have more time for a leader/party who would respect its four fundamental freedoms - free movement of goods, capital, services and labour.

May has not respected this in anyway and has insisted on cherry-picking. That's what her Chequers deal is. We'll have a bit of this but not the other.

Nothing wrong with a change of plan. It's what is needed. In my opinion, only a second referendum or general election will provide the clarity we need.
 
I think people (deliberately?) misunderstand this whole border issue. The Good Friday agreement didn't just set up power sharing - it set up a framework that allowed nationalists to live in Northern Ireland but feel Irish, with all-Ireland institutions etc while letting the unionists still feel British. It was a classic fudge that has (mostly) worked. A hard border just fucks it off completely - and it's about emotion as much as technical trade rules. And unsurprising that the DUP are doing everything they can to see the border return given they were always against the GFA.
In 2005 I drove with my sister from Belfast to Sligo. We were very deep into the Republic before we realised we'd crossed the border.
 
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